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Old 13th Jun 2018, 14:31
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Parents have resorted to using film footage to 'challenge' teachers' judgements at sports day. In my (not inconsiderable) experience, these will be the same parents who 'only helped and encouraged' Jacinta to make her scale model of the Vatican City for her project; and have not the faintest idea where that architectural model-maker's label came from! I wonder how many Ppruners think I'm entirely wrong to suggest that such parents are a blight upon a happy school environment.

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Parents have resorted to using film footage to 'challenge' teachers' judgements at sports day. In my (not inconsiderable) experience, these will be the same parents who 'only helped and encouraged' Jacinta to make her scale model of the Vatican City for her project; and have not the faintest idea where that architectural model-maker's label came from! I wonder how many Ppruners think I'm entirely wrong to suggest that such parents are a blight upon a happy school environment.

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But when you find errors in the teacher's marking of home work?

She ticked as correct the Sun RISES in the WEST. She said of course I know it rises in the East, but we all know children treat teachers' words as gospel. Another also got maths wrong.
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But when you find errors in the teacher's marking of home work?

She ticked as correct the Sun RISES in the WEST. She said of course I know it rises in the East, but we all know children treat teachers' words as gospel. Another also got maths wrong.
Not the same. (And teacher's word is final )

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My mum was always just glad that I'd taken part. The fact that in 1980 or so three of my class mates and I set a school record in the 4x100m relay passed her by a bit... "Very good, dear..." Du'aine Ladejo was there a bit after me, I expect he raised the ante a tad.

Mate of mine has often commented on the excessive parental competitiveness at his son's school and also at the local club football and cricket clubs the lad plays for. Competitiveness has outplayed sportsmanship it seems...
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Our daughter is going through college in France. Her English teacher is American. Can you imagine how many times I have to bite my tongue...?
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Clearly it’s not good to have school sports interrupted by a stream of parental interventions. But I can see both sides here. At our school sports day, many kids cut corners on the running track without penalty, the “winner” running a far shorter course. Children have a strong sense of fairness and this wasn’t. Rather than fighting against parents, perhaps utilising volunteers as parent marshals/umpires might be the way forward?
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Our daughter is going through college in France. Her English teacher is American. Can you imagine how many times I have to bite my tongue...?
"...English teacher is American."
Isn't that an oxymoron?
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At our school sports day, many kids cut corners on the running track without penalty, the “winner” running a far shorter course.
On our school cross-country run a couple of boys thought it would be clever to cut off a corner. And so it might have been, but they ran into a barbed wire fence, and the blood all over their legs when they got to the finish line was a bit of a give-away.
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If you think school sports day parents are bad you should try Pee Wee hockey parents. Fights in the stands are just another day at the rink.
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Where I was coming from...

Sports day in primary is a fun day (or should be in my view). Treadi, in his sprint relay example, was probably a school athlete and competed outside of school, where winning and record setting is part of the game. It's what the jocks sign up for. Sports day is a participation event where everyone takes part. To have stewards' enquiries into whether Mary ran 3 steps with her thumb on the egg is awful, frankly. So to pitch up after the event with a camera shot is a sad reflection on parenting. Premier League matches are not revisited afterward are they? "See, it was a penalty, so we woulda won!" It's done, deal with it.

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At the school I used to work at, we had a ‘Gifted and Talented’ program where children who showed aptitude in certain subjects received a different level of work to challenge them and had the opportunity to go on courses to expand their skills. One particular father was most put out that his son hadn’t been identified - the child in question was pretty middling in ability - and came in and kicked off majorly. To compound it, he brought his son in with him and the poor kid was mortified and clearly didn’t want any part of it. When the tantrum didn’t work and the school refused to budge, mum came in sobbing that the child was distraught and would be forever ‘damaged by the failure of not being selected.’ (Out of an average class of 30, there was only usually one, or rarely two, that ever met the criteria)

I fully respect that teachers are not infallible and make errors in judgement but surely, as a parent who wants to support your child, you would a) be realistic of their ability or b) if you felt an injustice had been done, write a well constructed letter with supporting evidence rather than try to intimidate by being bombastic and confrontational?
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Treadi, in his sprint relay example, was probably a school athlete and competed outside of school,
Not me mate, just happened to be a fairly quick runner in those far off days and we had a bit of luck with our speed and not fumbling the handovers!

I agree, it's about taking part and having fun with sports - too much emphasis is placed on winning by pushy parents and it seems to me that to not win is deemed to be failure...
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Sports Days are always fraught with drama, as said kids, in the main, are guided by fair play. If they all adhere, then everyone remains satisfied even if disappointed at not winning. As we know, there are those who will win at any costs (perhaps budding sociopaths ?). Imagine in a sprint when one of your opponents grabs your shoulder to stop you beating them ? I've seen that, and a lot of tears were produced (by the grabber!) when their dishonest strategy backfired. A friend, who had a child at a private school witnessed a pushy parent (Hedge fund manager) who hired an Olympic sprint coach for his child over several months so that they'd win the running races at sports day. The day arrived, much crowing and posturing by said parents, only to have a naturally fast outsider steal their thunder and limelight, not once, but thrice......Instead of taking the loss with grace, they apparently questioned the winner's age and eligibility. This was for under 11's btw! I don't seem to recall parents and/or kids being so brutally competitive in years gone by.
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On the other hand, the common wisdom today is that everyones a winner and everyone gets a prize for participating! Go figure.
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Two nations divided by a common language!

Originally Posted by RedhillPhil View Post
"...English teacher is American."
Isn't that an oxymoron?
Sadly no! The person teaching her English is a native speaker isn't an oxymoron, it's a lie!
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
Sports Days are always fraught with drama, as said kids, in the main, are guided by fair play. If they all adhere, then everyone remains satisfied even if disappointed at not winning. As we know, there are those who will win at any costs (perhaps budding sociopaths ?). Imagine in a sprint when one of your opponents grabs your shoulder to stop you beating them ? I've seen that, and a lot of tears were produced (by the grabber!) when their dishonest strategy backfired. A friend, who had a child at a private school witnessed a pushy parent (Hedge fund manager) who hired an Olympic sprint coach for his child over several months so that they'd win the running races at sports day. The day arrived, much crowing and posturing by said parents, only to have a naturally fast outsider steal their thunder and limelight, not once, but thrice......Instead of taking the loss with grace, they apparently questioned the winner's age and eligibility. This was for under 11's btw! I don't seem to recall parents and/or kids being so brutally competitive in years gone by.
Or the other type of parent who lets their children avoid competitive situations so they never have to deal with the potential risk of not winning. My wife’s best friend’s kids didn’t like sports day so she used to take them out of school and go to a theme park for the day. Hardly a great life lesson or message to be sending to them - opt out if you don’t fancy doing something!
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... Her English teacher is American. ...
Would that come under the category of TEFAL (Teaching English as a Foreign Language?).

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Would that come under the category of TEFAL (Teaching English as a Foreign Language?).
Long joke but the punchline from the schoolboy "I am not from Pakistan, but my teacher is"
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