On the eve of war
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On the eve of war
According to foreign press reports the US aircraft carrier Harry Truman, with its escort of 7 ships will be sailing tomorrow for the Med. The US strike force will be accompanied by the German Sachsen Class guided missile frigate FGS Hessen.
https://www.rt.com/usa/423744-us-aircraft-truman-syria/
There does not appear to be any UN involvement in this deployment and it is also curious that the US has not considered requesting Turkey to allow use of its airbases rather than deploy a carrier borne combat group.
It does raise the question whether the deployment of this powerful military force is a move to deter any reaction to the alleged Israeli missile attack on the Syrian air base.
Let`s hope this move does not set alight the tinder box that is the Middle East today. The conditions are ideal for the perfect fire storm.
https://www.rt.com/usa/423744-us-aircraft-truman-syria/
There does not appear to be any UN involvement in this deployment and it is also curious that the US has not considered requesting Turkey to allow use of its airbases rather than deploy a carrier borne combat group.
It does raise the question whether the deployment of this powerful military force is a move to deter any reaction to the alleged Israeli missile attack on the Syrian air base.
Let`s hope this move does not set alight the tinder box that is the Middle East today. The conditions are ideal for the perfect fire storm.
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A stupid ignorant post.
A routine deployment. If the USA decides any action is required the in place European deployed USAF assets plus the USN forces already in the Med and Gulf are more than adequate. Before you did add any B-52, B-1 or B-2 assets of course.
A routine deployment. If the USA decides any action is required the in place European deployed USAF assets plus the USN forces already in the Med and Gulf are more than adequate. Before you did add any B-52, B-1 or B-2 assets of course.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
A stupid ignorant post.
A routine deployment. If the USA decides any action is required the in place European deployed USAF assets plus the USN forces already in the Med and Gulf are more than adequate. Before you did add any B-52, B-1 or B-2 assets of course.
A routine deployment. If the USA decides any action is required the in place European deployed USAF assets plus the USN forces already in the Med and Gulf are more than adequate. Before you did add any B-52, B-1 or B-2 assets of course.
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The conditions are ideal for the perfect fire storm.
The Bear should not be poked.
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And who is supporting the murder of children? Clue: The West is supporting ISIS, Al Qaeda et al. They may be termed "opposition" but they are still Islamic head bangers.
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
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Originally Posted by pr00ne
The bear should not support brutal dictators and condone the callous murder of children.
It should also tread very carefully...
It should also tread very carefully...
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Originally Posted by Chronus
According to foreign press reports the US aircraft carrier Harry Truman, with its escort of 7 ships will be sailing tomorrow for the Med. The US strike force will be accompanied by the German Sachsen Class guided missile frigate FGS Hessen.
Why would it start now?
The USN still deploys CVBG's to the med, each year, like clockwork. When you don't know what you are talking about, it is easy to say some really stupid things. ORAC's response to you was spot on.
@Kelvin/racedo: do try to stay on topic. Your knee jerk responses to cut and paste "what about this" to anything to do with the US is pretty transparent. Raise your game, would you please?
As to war, there is already one in Syria. It's been going on since 2011, and a lot of people have chosen to participate to one extent or the other. Fun in the sand box for all of the kiddies.
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
And who is supporting the murder of children? Clue: The West is supporting ISIS, Al Qaeda et al. They may be termed "opposition" but they are still Islamic head bangers.
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
Certainly companies in the West have sold arms to many states that some of us would rather they haven't, but the same is true of arms manufacturers in many non-Western states too.
When it comes to the intervention of governments around the world then frankly I don't think there are many states that haven't directly or indirectly interfered in affairs that we might be critical of.
Personally, I think that we should stay well out of direct military intervention in Syria, UNLESS there is solid, independently verified, evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that the Syrian government have used WMD. All this talk of taking military action now is highly premature when all we have are reports that are untrustworthy at best, and have been spun in all directions by those with vested interests in the region.
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
And who is supporting the murder of children? Clue: The West is supporting ISIS, Al Qaeda et al.
https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/raf-denies-iraq-syria-civilian-casualties/
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Chronus,
This is a routine deployment. The carrier strike group has been working up over the past couple of months. See the FB page for the pre-deployment preparations and briefings.
USS Harry S Truman Carrier Strike Group gets underway for pre-deployment training exercise | WTKR.com
https://www.facebook.com/USSTruman/
This is a routine deployment. The carrier strike group has been working up over the past couple of months. See the FB page for the pre-deployment preparations and briefings.
USS Harry S Truman Carrier Strike Group gets underway for pre-deployment training exercise | WTKR.com
https://www.facebook.com/USSTruman/
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Originally Posted by KelvinD
And who is supporting the murder of children? Clue: The West is supporting ISIS, Al Qaeda et al. They may be termed "opposition" but they are still Islamic head bangers.
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
And the Us & UK wouldn't support the murder of Yemeni children by supplying the weapons to Saudi Arabia and the UAE. Would they?
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everything I've read so far on US policy over there is we want to get out, and stay out. Trump seems to be tired of this continuous low-level engagements that have little or no chance of success, and no real definition of success. Syria isn't going to be the economic miracle capitalist society in my lifetime. Israel has shown with vigor it is able to defend themselves from any kind of tin-pot muslim dictator. Can't see any more US involvement on the horizon. meh
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Originally Posted by flash8
Indeed they are, S-400's are hot in Syria apparently, unlike previous activations they (the Russians) might decide to use them this time. These aren't crappy third-rate SAM's but arguably the best in the world and more than capable of taking out any US/Allied air power, they fear them as they rightly should.
The Bear should not be poked.
The Bear should not be poked.
The Bear poked at the Syrian deconfliction line last month and its teeth knocked out. Perhaps dozens of Russian-controlled “little green men” killed.
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I won’t, you’re a Putin apologist, too.
The best defence though is not via ad hominem but facts, and I like dealing with those, because the only thing that is valid ultimately is truth. Sometimes that gets lost.
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