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Old 26th Nov 2017, 11:20
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Safety camera detectors

Previously know as speed cameras! As every country lane bush on the edge of a 30 limit has become a hiding hole for safety/speed camera operators are the cheap camera detectors any good as a warning?
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 11:39
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I have one and it works very well, BUT...by the time the speed trap has been detected, you have usually been well and truly busted!!
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 11:51
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Have you thought of a TomTom satnav and a subscription to them?

https://www.tomtom.com/en_us/drive/m...afety-cameras/
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 12:18
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Couple of interesting replies. Have used sat navs with speed trap warnings in other vehicles, would be interesting to know how quick they are updated to roaming cameras. Saw one in June guy was on a push bike so not even a van to spot! I am not a mad speed person wanting to be on the edge of speed limits its just that casual moment when you take your eye off of the speedometer.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 12:21
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The best solution seem to be using free Waze app but it is also depending on the country which you are in.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 14:06
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I hate this term "Safety" camera. They contribute nothing to safety, do not achieve any meaningful reduction in speed beyond their location and are actually dangerous in some situations. Please can we go back to calling them speed cameras, or revenue generators


Re Updates.
Some systems have a button you push which updates the central computer system immediately and this is then rebroadcast from thereon. Other systems capture your own updates which are loaded onto the system when you reconnect the speed camera unit to the website. Generally they require at least two reports I believe to add and more to remove.


https://www.speedcamerasuk.com/ has a downloadable database that you can put on your satnav, and this is actually pretty accurate.


Many Police Forces now actually have a schedule showing where speed camera vans will be deployed.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 14:36
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My car has a TomTom built in that warns of permanent and some common mobile locations, but to be honest the best detector is the mk1 eyeball. Local Facebook groups are also very good at picking up the mobile ones!
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 14:40
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I find Waze pretty good. It also tells you how fast you are going, in bright red if it is over the speed limit. I am not sure yet how good it is at finding the best route but it certainly tries to take you round where it thinks any heavy traffic is.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 14:46
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What is the tolerance factor in the UK? For instance here in the country I live in they deduct 5 kmph from a reading above 120 kmph. Additionally to that they won't prosecute if you are only 2 or 3 (sometimes even more) kmph after the correction. I can quite happily set my cruise control to 128 when in a 120 zone.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 15:54
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Tolerance is a minefield in the UK.

Legally, there is no tolerance, however in practice most police Forces work at 10% + 2 mph, e.g 70 =7+2 = 79mph however most Police will stop you above 78mph if so minded.

However, in the ACPO Speed Enforcement Policy Guideline 2011-2015, Section 9.7 it underlines how, despite there being a tolerance, that does not override the final decision of a police officer.

To further confuse matters Police Forces such as West Midlands will ignore 40 in a 30 in the peak hours but will issue a speeding ticket outside of those hours - reason - If everyone followed the speed limits Birmingham would gridlock.

On a Motorway where the speed is 70 mph, most Police seem to follow the 80mph rule - eg if you are doing 80mph and its safe they will turn a blind eye. Above 85mph they will always stop and prosecute in Court

Fines are now balanced between earnings and the speed excess, so 1-10mph is band 1 above that the multiplier will be higher. At 10mph above the speed the Police will always stop you.

Like I say it's complicated and not worth the bother of treading through THAT particular minefield for what little it saves.


And of course the Insurance companies wet their pants at speeding because it is yet another opportunity to raise your premium.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:04
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I use TomTom plus the databases provided here (subscription required though)

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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:30
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No. Best solution is to stick to the limits.
Not practical, certainly not on M-ways.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:42
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......depending on the country which you are in.
If you are in Europe it pays to be aware of the various laws...the penalty for having an detection device in your car can be quite draconian....

Speed Camera Detector Laws in Europe - Sixt Car Hire
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:47
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My brother swears by Waze and the warnings given via this app. Well, he did until he got a warning of a van on a bridge about 50 msecs before the camera flashed!
When he received the notice of intention to prosecute (he was at 72mph in a 60mph limit), the police actually got the road wrong. The notice stated he was on the A5 when he was actually on the A483, a few miles north of the A5. Still, he will be paying the 100 and taking the points!
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:52
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Originally Posted by MungoP View Post
Speedcog

Not practical, certainly not on M-ways.
Rubbish, unless you are a sheep and have to do what every other sheep on the motorway is doing
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:54
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Originally Posted by KelvinD View Post
My brother swears by Waze and the warnings given via this app. Well, he did until he got a warning of a van on a bridge about 50 msecs before the camera flashed!
When he received the notice of intention to prosecute (he was at 72mph in a 60mph limit), the police actually got the road wrong. The notice stated he was on the A5 when he was actually on the A483, a few miles north of the A5. Still, he will be paying the 100 and taking the points!
He should challenge it and state that it can't be for him as he was never on the A5 at that particular time on that day.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:54
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Originally Posted by Small cog View Post
No. Best solution is to stick to the limits.
To presume that only reason to know the position of speed traps is to avoid penalties is very limited.

It is important to be warned because some drivers will brake in a panic reaction when they spot the camera in front of them. There were in fact some crashes due such unexpected manoeuvres and it is an irony that this devices are supposed to increase the safety...
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:56
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Originally Posted by N707ZS View Post
Previously know as speed cameras! As every country lane bush on the edge of a 30 limit has become a hiding hole for safety/speed camera operators are the cheap camera detectors any good as a warning?
Every safety camera location has several warning signs. If you take note of them, particularly the ones that have black numbers inside red circles, you won't have a problem. If you're going to miss all those what chance of missing yet another warning device? (- cue discussion on gear-up landings ...)
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 16:58
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Remove them, take them home, part them out and sell the untraceable components on ebay.
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Old 26th Nov 2017, 17:04
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Suffolk County Council seem to have a policy of putting a 30 mph limit at any point where a building is visible, even though that may be a barn half a mile distant.
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