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Old 15th Sep 2017, 21:58
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Values, Mission, Purpose (Management Jargon)

Sorry to the foreigners, but this is outstanding -

BBC Radio 4 - Thinking Allowed, Management Jargon

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Old 16th Sep 2017, 19:44
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I think it puts into words the thoughts of many of us who were in management many years ago and saw the introduction of this style of 'work-speak'.
One problem is that people are starting to use this stuff in everyday life, have you heard a policeman recently? a social worker?
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Ff, I suppose with fewer police pounding the beat we no longer hear

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The old STAIRS report format still can't be beaten for getting information across in court;

Summary of the incident
Times stuff happened
Actions taken to investigate and resolve the situation
Information sources and reports to other parties
Referrals to other agencies, civil remedies, etc.
Station Officer informed and report books and documents completed

Works for pretty much any situation with a bit of adjustment and ensures you don't miss anything out.
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Don't be sorry - this has global relevance.
The idea that an organisation can impose `values' on individuals is laughable.
People bring their own values to work.
And imposing an expectation on employees that they conform to such values is naive at best and sinister at worst.
And as for `mission and purpose' FFS - if you can't figure out why you're there and what you're supposed to be doing...
This is all a misguided attempt to transpose concepts from the military to business.
I have utter contempt for the bright-eyed lemmings who spout this sort of drivel.
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See and hear lots of management speak when go into companies.
People spouting it as fact when they haven't a clue what it means.

Best fun was allowing a colleague who finally had enough to question the biggest spouters of the claptrap.

He was more than qualified to do so but kept his qualifications including a Doctorate well hidden.
Watching him pick apart the claptrap and show they were supporting 2 diametrically opposed positions and claiming they did the same thing was worth paying to go see.
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I was once quietly censured for referring to our colleagues in the "Communications team" as "the Propaganda department", I say quietly because the boss who was telling me off was of a similar opinion.

We have company "values" which we are supposed to demonstrate, but every time they get brought up at a meeting the number of eyes that glaze over means at least our leadership keeps them to a minimum
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We used to have "Human Remains" (human resources). Before that it was "Personnel".
Now everything is a "team". It must be due to change soon. As for the rest of management crap, err sorry, speak, it will evolve. I remember when Synergy was everywhere. Don't hear much about it now.
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HR or as I call them, Hardly Relevant, are rebranding as Talent Management. Dirty Harry had them sussed.

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Originally Posted by tartare View Post
This is all a misguided attempt to transpose concepts from the military
Sadly this was a two way street, certainly back in the 90s we had to create mission statements, management plans and import many other business terms from industry.

It came through contractorisation and not only a desire to create a common language of w..k words - supply chain vice supply or suppliers was one, stake holders another. It was also a means for VSO's to create CVs that would bag them jobs on retirement.

A very accurate mission statement painted on a sign at the main gate can be a strait jacket to flexibility.
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Reflect on how HR was spawned in the RAF from P staff, to PMC to PMA, agency FFS. JPA at least returned to people and away from HR or HAC, human asset counting would you believe.
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All this bolleaux seems to start across the pond. It then migrates in an easterly direction, arriving in the UK just after the next management craze has replaced it in the US....and none of it is any use.
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I remember, many years ago, a sign appearing by the front door to our ATC centre. On it was a Mission Statement, the first line was 'Our most important asset is our staff'. I felt trouble was in the air and I was correct. What once had been one team of Management and ATC ops staff became an 'us and them' situation. Of the managers I was involved with, they were pumped up and on a massive ego trip. Nuff said, away from it all now happily retired. Sad really.
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Zed, POSM ring a bell?

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After 40 plus years in the telecoms industry I had my share of imported management fads as new CEOs joined companies I worked for .

Importing a lot of senior level 'new thinking' assistants they mostly harmed the companies involved-terminally so in one case where almost the entire lower top and higher middle ranks left and these were all the people with industry knowledge.

Possibly the worst I ever came across though was at a hotel in the US where
I was on a course that had a lobby sign saying proudly 'our people are trained to be sincere'. A classic case of the US, and often now the UK, where people use a phrase because it looks or sounds good but actually doesn't mean anything at all.
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I read somewhere that Personnel departments were there to help you, Human resource departments are there to be deployed against you.
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Pb, on a US cruise ship, at the ice cream parlour, some Americans demanded ice cream, got it and left.

I was polite. After a day or so of being glared at I asked her if she thought I meant please and thank you. She said no. I said well I do. I got a smile thereafter.

My pet hate today is "enjoy the rest if your day" What was wrong with the old dear in the shop, as she handed your change "take care dear" Much more realistic and practicable as I might have been off to the dentist.
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Another popular word that annoys me- engagement. Management here love to say that staff have great engagement, but they seem to leave out the fact that an army can engage its enemy....
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