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Rejection of EU lawmakers decision

Old 6th Sep 2017, 15:46
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Rejection of EU lawmakers decision

Hungary , the Czech Republic and Slovakia have formally rejected the EU mandate to accept a refugee / asylum seeker quota. Good for them , the experiment is fraying at the edges ...
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 16:10
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It's a pity the EU lawmakers don't know more about European history. The Hungarians kept the Ottoman Empire out of Europe for centuries with no military help from the Vatican, they're not going to allow muslims into Hungary because Brussels says they should.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 16:22
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Not to forget the EU,s latest plan to spend 500,000,000 of taxpayers money on a new building ... I support spending on infrastructure but this ? It will never come in on budget , btw how's the new airport in Berlin coming on ?
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 17:06
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they're not going to allow muslims into Hungary because Brussels says they should.
So what are they Refugees or Muslims? The 1st post says they're refugees now you're saying they're Muslims.

Listen to the people who study this topic in detail and you will discover the refugees are fleeing persecution from many countries and are from many religions including Christianity.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 17:40
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Hats off to them. Seems like there are some very sensible people further east. More gaping chasms appearing in the EU facade.

People are getting ever more fed up with being dictated to by Brussels/Merkel. Politics within the EU is going to become ever more nationalistic and keep trending to the right. Very exciting times for anyone who has had it with 'progressive' politics.
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I think you will find very few christians of widely various sects among the refugees . There has been legitimate emigration to the US and Australia even Africa where they have become successful , but as they form a better resourced ( higher education and family / business ties ) they frequently decide to stay put or join family in Kenanon , Armenia or Turkey and are almost never found in refugee camps . They are not the issue as far as Hungary , Poland etc are concerned , some ethnic groups just don't fit in very well , the Hungarians and others have the courage to admit it .
History , as stated in another post plays a part ...
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Why are some folk so fearful of the implications of the 'I' word?
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 18:21
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Ok ! uneducated Muslim refugees and bogus asylum seekers .. are a problem . Thank you Ms Merkel German control and influence of the EU old boys club is getting out of hand .
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People are getting ever more fed up with being dictated to by Brussels/Merkel. Politics within the EU is going to become ever more nationalistic and keep trending to the right. Very exciting times for anyone who has had it with 'progressive' politics.
That is the problem, Merkel created this problem when she opened Germanys doors, she didnt ask the rest of EU member countries what thay thought but now expects them to bale her out. The EU is becoming increasingly Franco/German centric, they can do what they like while everyone else does as they are told.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 18:37
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You have your orders from Berlin. If you do not follow them without question we know vat happens ,yaah . Where have we heard that before.
Please go to the mirror and slap yourself very hard in the face if you thought the re-unification of Germany would lead to more democracies in Europe . Keep slapping until you can see zat the only system of governance they believe in your blind obedience to the Fourth Reich . Resistance is futile . None of these rich elites have ever had to sit on a bus that goes through on of the many no go ghettoes in Europe. Or they would be wearing their grey Hugo Boss uniforms again.
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 18:57
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We could have done the same as the Mittel Europa folks and we are a lot further from the action than they are.

But we didnt did we, and we let in hordes of people from outside the EU who are not Christians , have nothing to do with us historically and are not ethnically like us , unlike most of the Euros. we let them in on Mrs mays watch (and to be fair on Blairs too. So witha huge skills shortage at even the most basic level in the country how will we run a post Brexit economy.

We we dont even have to put up barriers to folks from the Eu because with the high cost of living and increasingly worthless pound there is no incentive to come here at all . So instead of Christian , sorry to say it but its an issue for lot of people -White- immigrants from EU we will get swamped with 3rd world folks who really are different.

Also will we starts ending back the armies of bogus Aussies , Kiwis and SAffies who have been able to magic up an English great granny -no reciprocity with these places who are very very strict on immigration from Uk as indeed are USA and Canada and yet London is full of them.

So come Brexit we will still have the same inept polies in charge and the useless immigration service people and just as many immigrants as before and not the ones that largely fit in either. The Czechs Poles and Hungarians are not going to soften their stance at all, their whole history is defending Europe from the Eastern hordes and having been invaded and occupied by the Germans and Russians they are a tough bunch and wont be bullied.

But why couldn't we have just said , sorry Mr EU we are not going to do this, instead of trashing the Pound, our economy and our childrens future
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Old 6th Sep 2017, 19:16
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But why couldn't we have just said , sorry Mr EU we are not going to do this
I believe we have.

instead of trashing the Pound, our economy and our childrens future
Really, still on that and again you know for a fact that the economy and our children's futures are trashed, why cannot they have been given a better future?
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
........... Also will we starts ending back the armies of bogus Aussies , Kiwis and SAffies who have been able to magic up an English great granny -no reciprocity with these places who are very very strict on immigration from Uk as indeed are USA and Canada and yet London is full of them. ...
Oh, really??
Most recent stats that I can get hold of for origin of Australians born overseas seems to cast some shadow of doubt over your claims.



1
United Kingdom 1038162 23.5% of immigrants
2 New Zealand 389467 8.8%

But then, you also managed to avoid mentioning the 30 years of "pommie invasion" invoked by Maggie when she liberated the UK from its socialist burden (sic).
What a joy that was for Australia. Productivity levels hitherto unimagined.


From what I have seen, current immigration rules between UK and Oz are reasonably balanced.
As for conjuring up "bogus grannies", how do you conjure up false records in the British archives??
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pax britanica has it entirely right. Most problems that the Brexiteers loved to blame on the EU were primarily down to weak, inept politicians at home. That won't get any better once we throw away the benefits of the EU unless we produce a better class of politician and I certainly won't hold my breath for that to happen.
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Old 7th Sep 2017, 05:16
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That won't get any better once we throw away the benefits of the EU

We??????

Location: Iraq and other places

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Yes, it's funny how those of us Brits with less of a "Little England" mentality will work in other places from time to time. I guess I should update that country of residence having left the US a few months back.
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Old 7th Sep 2017, 13:36
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I note none of the above would have been affected by Brexit....
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Old 7th Sep 2017, 13:45
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Yes, it's funny how those of us Brits with less of a "Little England" mentality will work in other places from time to time. I guess I should update that country of residence having left the US a few months back.
So EU membership was so great for you that you left..

Yep - that'l work.
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I note none of the above would have been affected by Brexit....
I beg to differ.

Our membership of the EU meant I could take a job in The Netherlands, which led directly to the fantastic opportunities I am now taking advantage of. So, had the Little Englanders had their way a few years earlier I may well have missed out.
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So EU membership was so great for you that you left..

Yep - that'l work.
Yep - I left straight into the EU, and have worked in these other places for my EU based company...
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