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Old 26th Aug 2017, 06:04
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Aldi defend its decision not to sell booze at this till

Yes you've guessed it Aldi has put a polite notice stating no alcohol at this till after a Muslim worker has concerns about selling it.

Aldi closed till to customers buying alcohol | Daily Mail Online

Will they have a till stating no pork products will be served at this till? No I thought not.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 07:33
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Right load of [email protected] praising Aldi for this. Selling alcohol is part of the job, and any worker that can't fulfil the job requirements shouldn't take the job and neither should the company employ him in such a role.

I once had to interview a muslim for a job, and I made fully sure that he understood what the job entailed and that he could comply before starting the interview. He understood my position and explained fully his position on how his beliefs would not impinge on his performance.
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Old 26th Aug 2017, 07:57
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I have been to enough supermarkets where the check-out girl is Muslim and there has been no problem buying alcohol; so why Aldi?
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Can you imagine the furore if a shopkeeper refused to sell booze to someone he knew to be a muslim?
When I lived in the UK I would visit Costco once a month and the checkouts were clogged with Asian shop owners trailing pallets of booze.
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
Can you imagine the furore if a shopkeeper refused to sell booze to someone he knew to be a muslim?
When I lived in the UK I would visit Costco once a month and the checkouts were clogged with Asian shop owners trailing pallets of booze.
Most Asian shopkeepers aren't Muslim, but Sikh, certainly around these parts. Sikhs don't appear to have a problem with alcohol, there are many Sikh pub landlords around the UK.

Come to think of it, most "Indian" restaurants in UK are actually Bengali, and Bengalis are mostly Muslim, and I haven't noticed too many "dry" restaurants.

Aldi really should have made checking out their entire product range as part of the job spec., and the check out operative informed that if they weren't willing to check out alcohol, port, or anything else they would be sacked. Perhaps other Aldi staff might be reluctant to check out meat, as they're veggies, or vegans. Would Aldi make they same exceptions for them? Having made the exception for a Muslim they'd be on thin ice I think if they didn't.
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I have been to enough supermarkets where the check-out girl is Muslim and there has been no problem buying alcohol; so why Aldi?
Generation snowflake? Got to take it out on somebody if your degree in <insert your favourite useless discipline here> can't get you a better job than a checkout?
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What a lot of pathetic anti-Islam frothing going on here! The Aldi store has multiple check outs. The sign was placed well ahead of the cashier so a customer could quite easily join another queue.Is the issue here a "But, I don't want to join that queue. I want/demand the use of this particular till?"
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Yet another distortion of Islam. There is no prohibition in Islam against alcohol as a substance, in fact it is used in medicine and external medical preparations that tens of millions of Muslims use every day. Have a look at many common substances, like creams, mouthwash, shampoo, etc and many contain alcohol.

The prohibition (Haram) is on ingesting alcohol as an intoxicant, not on handling it or using it externally. The list of things that are Haram also includes any form of pig meat, dog meat, cat meat, flowing blood, monkey meat and a wide range of intoxicants, including tobacco, nutmeg, alcohol etc.

No devout Muslim is forbidden from handling any of these substances on behalf of others if they are in sealed containers. The only Muslims who may object are those who hold extreme views about Islam, that are not directly supported by the strictures written in the Qur'an. That, to me, would raise a red flag as to whether the person objecting is associated with radical Islam.
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The problem is that most people buy booze so they will have to join a long queue whilst one or two will be at the non-alcohol queue.

There will be a few Eastern Europeans who will not understand the sign and they can get very upset.

I forecast that there will be a few beltfuls of merchandise for Aldi to put back on the shelves.
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Must be a quiet news day if this is the most outraged the Daily Hate can be today. Do you shop at this Aldi? Does it affect you? Do you really care? Or do you just want something to warm up the blood this morning.
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Having shopped at both Aldi and Lidl, these days there are usually few checkouts open, as the minimal staff are obliged to do all sorts of other tasks (multitasking!) within the store. A line develops, usually somewhat unhappy and then another till opens and everyone's busy unloading their many products onto the conveyer belt. Unless there was a large flashing neon sign saying 'NO ALCOHOL SOLD HERE!!!' I don't imagine I'd have noticed, or many others as you're so focussed on the somewhat rushed till experience, compared with other supermarkets imo.

Unless you are the owner of a private business, it HAS to be secular/atheist in nature. All staff need to be able to work in the environment, no exceptions. Once you start pandering to various personal restrictions, it's a slippery slope towards chaos.

I do know of a toyshop chain in the UK where the owners are Christians and won't open on a sunday as they believe that families should be together on this day, which I find rather noble in this modern family dysfunctional world. Also in New York a famous camera shop close on saturday because the family that own it are observant jews and to my knowledge suffer no lost business due to this policy.
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Thinking "purely logically", I am not sure how this policy will pan out!

For example, presumably the "No Gays" sign will go up if they employ a devout christian?

They could end up needing more tills to cater for every sensitivity?
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VP959.....You should get a job as a consultant with Aldi, because it sounds like you know what your talking about, in a sense you might be correct that it is a distortion of Islam. On the other hand it is another side, in thatf a minority of Muslims not integrating in the United Kingdom, and they see themselves as a special case. It really quite simple, if you do not want to handle pork or alcohol, do not apply for a job at Aldi or Tesco, in the same way I would not work for certain companies on ethical grounds.

An example being having a job which does not fit with your beliefs is muslim taxi drivers who in the past have refused to accept guide dogs. Another example is a English lady had a collection of ceramic pigs in her front window and following complaints from local muslims, the police threatened to prosecute her. Likewise the leader of the opposition Jeremy Corbin recently fired a front bencher, for mentioning a gang of men sexually abusing white vulnerable girls were of men pakinstani origin, presumably muslim.

The problem is in the UK is there too much political correctness in relation to a muslim minority, politicians in the main feckless and feel unable to speak out. It is a case of the elephant in the room.For example the taxpayer funded a 350k legal case, for the rights of the parents to shave their disabled daughters pubic hair on the basis of their faith, why that was never thrown own of court from day one, when that money could have been better spent on the NHS.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/1039...ir-battle.html

While I think christians, Jains, Hindus, Jews and Muslims get on well in the UK, their exists a minority muslim subculture in the UK who do not want to integrate and by that I mean educate boys and girls separately, dress young girls in black, muslim academys, and not treating women equally. I recently heard of a muslim father who wouldn't let his children watch Pepper Pig. How bizzare is that.

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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
I do know of a toyshop chain in the UK where the owners are Christians and won't open on a sunday as they believe that families should be together on this day, which I find rather noble in this modern family dysfunctional world. Also in New York a famous camera shop close on saturday because the family that own it are observant jews and to my knowledge suffer no lost business due to this policy.
And in Jerusalem with three religions some shops close on Friday, some on Saturday and some on Sunday, so there's always something open.
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Originally Posted by SpringHeeledJack View Post
Having shopped at both Aldi and Lidl, these days there are usually few checkouts open,

You got that right. 6 check out lanes in the Lidl "super store" where I live, and 6 self serve checkouts. Never seen more than 3 lanes open, and was stuck in a queue once where only one checkout was open and the operator was having to deal with problems at the self serve check outs as well.
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You got that right. 6 check out lanes in the Lidl "super store" where I live, and 6 self serve checkouts. Never seen more than 3 lanes open, and was stuck in a queue once where only one checkout was open and the operator was having to deal with problems at the self serve check outs as well.
Guess what? - sometimes you get what you pay for.
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Guess what? - sometimes you get what you pay for.
I think this is spot on. The budget stores like Lidl and Aldi are not much different to LoCo airlines, in that they try to employ the minimum number of people they can in order to cut running cost.
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I think this is spot on. The budget stores like Lidl and Aldi are not much different to LoCo airlines, in that they try to employ the minimum number of people they can in order to cut running cost.
Then it doesn't sound like good business practice to employ staff who can't do all the jobs.

Nephew's son works at Aldi - he has to do every job in the shop.
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Then it doesn't sound like good business practice to employ staff who can't do all the jobs.

Nephew's son works at Aldi - he has to do every job in the shop.
I would guess that they staff for the average shop workload, and move staff around as the priorities in store change, from stocking shelves, unpacking in the warehouse section, checking pricing and sell-by dates, running the tills and self-service checkouts etc. During busy times they may well not have enough staff in store for part of the time, even allowing for multi-tasking, but they are trading off an inconvenience for some customers for a time against their low prices.
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