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Old 27th Aug 2017, 07:29
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Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd View Post
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The shortest distance between two points is .... a straight path .. er... line.
n'est ce pas ?

( going around ornamental ponds, statutes etc, of course, but you get the point)
Yes and no. It seems that people avoid straight lines when the ground isn't dead flat, and tend to walk along the route with the lest change in gradient. The biggest issue, though, was people walking from a car park, that covered a wide are, to three gates. It was hard to predict how people would walk across the car park to get to it's perimeter, and so hard to know where best to put the path entrances at the edge of the car park.

A few months of people walking over the grass soon showed where people liked to walk, although, as one of our psychologists noted, the original path routes would have been selected by a just tiny percentage of staff, as the majority would have behaved like sheep, and followed a path that was already marked, even if only faintly............
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 08:12
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Originally Posted by ExSp33db1rd View Post
The shortest distance between two points is .... a straight path .. er... line.
n'est ce pas ?
Not always - keep your eye open for desire lines as you move around. The problem is however mostly to do with not knowing in advance where the straight lines are going to be needed.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 08:33
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Originally Posted by Dutystude View Post
Indeed I would hazard that the great majority of JB posters are, or have been, everyday cyclists. Especially the old farts.
They have to have some way of getting to the shop to collect their Daily Heil.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 12:03
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Been watching Johnnie No-Mates trying to defend himself one post after another by all the thoughtless ppruners who think him a troll.

It makes a change for S-D to actually post one-liner sad little quips.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 14:57
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We're not mates. Save your love for Nutjob!
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 15:04
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Reminds me of the architect who designed our new office and lab building. There were no paths marked on the landscaping plan, and when questioned she said the idea was to grass the whole area, wait and see where people walked, then put paths in those places
It comes from British military base planning when we used to build them instead of shut them down.

And where did the British Mil get it from?

The Romans so its hardly a new concept
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 15:14
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Originally Posted by tescoapp View Post
It comes from British military base planning when we used to build them instead of shut them down.

And where did the British Mil get it from?

The Romans so its hardly a new concept
This was a defence establishment, as it happens!
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 15:32
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Tesco, and before footpaths, heating ducts, brilliant - always free from snow and ice.
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Old 27th Aug 2017, 15:37
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When we make up temporary bases in war zones they do the same thing because the paths taken are different due to sniper cover etc compared to peace time bases.

There is never enough duck boards so they just wait until things develop a bit and then put them down. If the base changes and paths change they then redistribute them.

Some RSM's of infantry persuasion have over the years tried to break this system but they have always failed.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 07:45
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Originally Posted by Trossie
andPlease guys, if you do so then just keep bloody quiet when you go through peaceful villages. I have nothing against people enjoying themselves and 'keeping fit', just do it in a way that isn't bloody irritating to others.



Do they ride through in the early hours of the morning, maybe disturb your beauty sleep? Is their conversation somehow offensive? How often does it happen, 7 or 8 times an hour, or maybe just once or twice per weekend? Or is it all just the sound of happy people that gets on your nerves so badly?

S-D
Once a weekend is too much. To me it's not the sound of 'happy people', it's the sound of noisy, inconsiderate gits! We do have plenty of people who pass through out village enjoing their outings while getting good exercise: ramblers. They chat to each other pleasantly as they walk through and interact pleasantly with the villagers on their way ("Hello, what a nice day for a walk", "Yes, it is isn't it? Lovely village you have", etc., etc.) We don't have pedestrians who shout at the tops of their voices from one end of the village to the other, the way those irritating gits in poser cycle gear do. Met a very pleasant cyclist once, an Argentinian cycling the length of Britain, off the main routes. He stopped in the village asking if there was an onward route from here, we had a pleasant chat and I advised him of a scenic cycle route from here. Decent lad. No lycra or poser gear. And I bet he didn't own a BMW!

There has been a lot on this of cyclists who slow traffic down. I have no problem with that as there is a very good cycle club not too far from here that has an Olympic medal winner as one of its members, which has clearly boosted cycling in the area. They are road users, the same as the farm traffic, articulated lorries and everyone else who uses the roads. I sit patiently a safe distance behind them and only attempt to overtake when it is clearly safe to do so. The same applies to the old grannie who is toddling along at 35mph. If she is only confident at that speed then that is fine by me as I would far rather that she drove at a speed that she was confident with rather than be a danger on the roads at higher speeds. After all, she is entitled to be there and she is going faster than the cyclists. And the last thing that I would do is 'tail gate' her and make her nervous. I would love to know how S-D would deal with this little old lady if he was behind her in his BMW! From his various posts here, I suspect that he would not be taking the safest of approaches to this 'infringement of his right to tear down the road in his BMW'!

It's the impatient 'I am entitled to' gits that cause danger on the roads, as the subject of this Thread did. We have extremely safe roads. Take it easy, and keep the roads that way! 'Posers' should stick to race tracks and only go on public roads if they respect everyone else on, or along, those roads.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 08:32
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Originally Posted by MNRAF View Post
Riding intentionally illegally with no front brake which, in an emergency stop, supplies north of 80% of the braking effort. I do hope this arrogant little **** goes down.
If he does go down I won't weep any tears but I wouldn't advocate a custodial sentence.

Arrogant? Undoubtedly. But he is young and will re-enter society and I can't see time at Her Majesty's Pleasure increasing his chances of making a success of that. And it to all our benefits that he should.

Of course some will say but what about 'Pour Encourager les Autres.' Well, given the views expressed by some of the 'Autres' on here, I think there is fat chance of any 'getthef**koutofmyway' cyclists changing their spots.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 08:44
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One point made when he was convicted was that he had shown no remorse at all. The closest he got was in admitting that some of the social media comments he published, laying the blame on the victim, were unwise.

The implication seems to be that he still doesn't believe that he's done anything wrong, and the accident was entirely the fault of the pedestrian. To me that is something that needs to be addressed when he is sentenced. If he is to be allowed back into society, riding bikes around our streets, he needs to learn that it is his responsibility to brake in order to reduce the risk of an accident when someone does something unexpected in front of him. I don't get the feeling that he has learned that lesson at all, based on what has been published in the media (and accepting that may not be the whole story).
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 10:21
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Dutystude, (Was that rostered or punishment? ), Fair comment. Perhaps we should have an 'Awareness' course for convicted cyclists.
I speak with all humility, having committed the occasional roadgoing idiocy myself.
Has anyone noticed the increasing number of wheelies popped by cyclists and bikers these days? I really don't fancy 200kg of bike + 100kg of rider through my windscreen.
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Old 28th Aug 2017, 19:13
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Originally Posted by MNRAF View Post
Dutystude, (Was that rostered or punishment? ), Fair comment. Perhaps we should have an 'Awareness' course for convicted cyclists.
I speak with all humility, having committed the occasional roadgoing idiocy myself.
Has anyone noticed the increasing number of wheelies popped by cyclists and bikers these days? I really don't fancy 200kg of bike + 100kg of rider through my windscreen.
Sorry MNRAF but not sure what you mean (my bold for clarity).
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Old 29th Aug 2017, 09:04
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Upsetting The Boss enough to be given Duty Student; check, lock up squadron etc.
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Old 29th Aug 2017, 17:45
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Originally Posted by MNRAF View Post
Upsetting The Boss enough to be given Duty Student; check, lock up squadron etc.
Ah!

I blush now to remember how often.
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Old 29th Aug 2017, 17:56
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Originally Posted by MNRAF View Post
Upsetting The Boss enough to be given Duty Student; check, lock up squadron etc.
Happened to me when I went on a 6 week secondment to a front line squadron, as a part of a programme that was intended to allow us "back room boys" to gain experience of what life was like at the sharp end. Day one, and at morning prayers I was told that I, and another (proper) sub-lieutenant were going off for a weeks aircrew escape and evasion training. On return, I found that I was doing far more than my fair share as duty officer, sat booking aircraft and crews in and out all day. Basically, it was an excuse for everyone on the squadron to have a pop at someone they thought represented all the crap kit they had to work with. Fair enough, up to a point, but it did wear a bit thin after the first two or three weeks.
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 07:13
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Only on JB could the "all cyclists should be banned ! " theme be so consistently perpetuated by the intolerance of those who are so self absorbed when it comes to road usage. But, as we know, as with the Brexit thread which contains some of the hitherto unknown top economists in the world, JB also contains some of the worlds best car drivers.....in their own minds that is.

Some of us learnt a lot about roads and road safety by virtue of cycling being the common form of transport, ahem " some time ago". Some, seemingly, never had to use this form of transport cycling presumably being beneath them...... and their ego's.

I use a very well known, to both cyclists and bikers, road every weekend.

It's also populated by owners of expensive cars.....these cause me far more concern than any slight delay, there aren't that many places to pass safely as the road has numerous bends, turns and undulates extensively, incurred by encountering cyclists be they solo or in a group.

The recent BH was, as we know, remarkably warm and thus it was only be expected people would be out enjoying themselves. Thus, in anticipation of such, erm, I left a few minutes earlier to ensure I still got to my destination on time.....dead simple really, but there again, so am I.

Monday morning, about 08.30, roads relatively quiet and get to Allestree on the A6,..it's a 30pmph limit, rising to 50mph and then back to 40mph at Duffield. Encounter a group of four cyclists in the 30 zone...no problem as this is the A6 and you can pass safely....enter....."madam"....the car, had as they say, " seen better days", and the "somewhat dishevelled appearance " of the driver, say late 50's, suggested an empathy with her vehicle.

The double white lines were of no relevance either, as she happily straddled them in her intent to pass myself and the cyclists....alas, despite her intent and close proximity to my rear end, she was thwarted by some bollards but when it was possible to overtake the cyclists....no deviation from her as she passed them.

She saved her expertise however until we turned onto the road in question at Duffield....it's a 40mph limit and curves up a hill....you can't see oncoming traffic on the curve. It's also a built up area...another inconsequential detail of no real significance,

Lo and behold, another group of cyclists...who would have thunk it possible !.....at which point, madam decides to, erm, overtake....thankfully, her immaculate timing and consummate driving skills ensured she missed the oncoming three cars by at least 10 secs.
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 07:44
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K n C.

We all have examples of idiots.
My example is, during my commuting in London I was very nearly run over on 3 occasions. All by cyclists, all in St James' park, a no cycling area.
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Old 30th Aug 2017, 08:04
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K n C.

We all have examples of idiots.
My example is, during my commuting in London I was very nearly run over on 3 occasions. All by cyclists, all in St James' park, a no cycling area.
I know, humanity being what it is, idiots can be found across the globe, in every demographic, location and occupation.

There are now, thanks to technology, websites for example where they can congregate with kindred spirits. Thankfully, the advantage of a website is that it only allows social, not sexual, intercourse, so their genetic failings cannot be replicated. This is not a reference to yourself I hasten to add.

However, here on JB, there are certain established fixations, one being cyclists and cycling ( there are several others ) and how they are, allegedly, the scourge of the roads.

This is patently untrue, but hey, here on JB never let the consensus be inconvenienced by disproving these cherished views.
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