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Old 4th Aug 2017, 07:45
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Old 4th Aug 2017, 08:07
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Don't have to go far to see damage. I walked around this building once. There are some far bigger chunks out of it in places. Had to tell my Mum what they were and she lived through the war oop north in Manchester.
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British films with iffy history are the Victory one with Michael Caine and Victor Stallone, they seem to have cameo slots to justify the Hollywood boix office names and sell tickets.
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 06:42
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Ah, you bloody pedants here ruined the movie! Saw it tonight and I was on point looking for unrealistic (a number of them) scenes, it would have been enjoyable enough.

Won't ruin it for those who haven't seen it yet, but I'll say that Spitfire has a helluva glide ratio.

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Especially with the flaps down!!

Surely a wheels up landing would have been safer on sand??
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Originally Posted by LowNSlow View Post
Especially with the flaps down!!

Surely a wheels up landing would have been safer on sand??

On what grounds
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 17:54
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Soft sandy grounds (see likely result in current Capcom !) Spits will put nose in at drop of a hat.
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Danny, what would you have tried, drop the tail wheel and try and drag the speed down?
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Old 8th Aug 2017, 21:18
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Ditch the fkr just offshore I imagine.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 00:03
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Originally Posted by Danny42C View Post
Soft sandy grounds (see likely result in current Capcom !) Spits will put nose in at drop of a hat.
Yep, and if you read an NACA report about aircraft ditching (which was based on RAE research during the war) the Spitfire wasn't that easy to ditch either (Hurricane and Mustang were worse). However a couple of Spit pilots did do wheels down landings on the French beaches in late May and didn't tip over too far, though the front gear did dig in. (Aircraft serials were N3295 and N3103 apparently), so Nolan isn't wrong on that fact.



or

http://i713.photobucket.com/albums/w...9520Xplaza.jpg

(picture is too big to put a show picture on post).

Oh, and lack of Aircraft Letter, Not unusual as well.



Not putting the engine in the burnt out one or modifying the Yak's nose to make it look something more like a Spit was a bit of a fail though. (Same for not hiding the fire control radars on the Destroyer).

To be honest, I found if you don't rivet count and pay attention, it's quite a good film.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 09:48
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I had dinner with a couple of French friends yesterday evening and they had been to see the film the previous day. They thought it was brilliant.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 12:41
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I caught up with it yesterday evening. Thoroughly enjoyed it, though I think Tom Hardy's Spitfire had the biggest ammunition tank of any fighter ever built. The flying scenes were superb.
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Five three second bursts is what it really had.
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Old 9th Aug 2017, 16:22
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Originally Posted by Martin the Martian View Post
I think Tom Hardy's Spitfire had the biggest ammunition tank of any fighter ever built. The flying scenes were superb.
That and a far smaller fuel tank and a far higher fuel consumption than the real thing!
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 05:55
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These things are all part of artistic licence. Many posters are taking it all too literally. I am sure that the film makers were perfectly aware that the glide sequence wasn't possible in real time. It was a representation, I think a lot of people have never read any fiction at all.

I must admit that personally I don't get science fiction, but understand that many love it and have the facility to suspend disbelief when confronted by such tosh as teleportation etc.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 06:29
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I get the artistic licence bit with regard to the engine out and Spitfire sequences (I understand Nolan has a way with timelines that I guess you either love or hate), and I am not that clued up enough on uniforms and kit to get too bothered about some aspects of the story telling. OTOH I'm not sure the like of TV aerials and tumble drier vents comes under artistic licence or lack of attention to detail..I tend to think that if the director doesnt care enough about the detail of what he is portraying then I am not sure I can take the rest of the film that seriously.....it was a ripping yarn, well told for sure, but some of it grated....but that is just me.
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Probably more likely that persuading the residents of a town to agree to have their aerials and vents removed isn't at all easy and so they compromise at the expense of upsetting a few people who are really that bothered about these details.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 06:58
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
Five three second bursts is what it really had.
I've seen the movie three times and find it tricky to keep count.
I'm fairly sure there were seven 1 second bursts to the point of the first bomber being hit.
After that it becomes difficult to keep track of which time line you are watching!

I suspect they have overdone it a bit.

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Old 10th Aug 2017, 08:22
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EM, what is wrong with aerials and sat dishes? We have always had them, haven't we?

Or at least anyone under 65.
Same with radar, always been there, hasn't it? Anyway most of the audience wouldn't recognise one if it hit them.

Woman in her 50s on a quiz show, reasonably intelligent (apparently) didn't know what the S stood for in HMS BUKWARK.

We professional observers don't know how ignorant is Joe Public, in the same way I know no names of football players or managers, names of club grounds etc. To everyone there will be swathes of ignorance.
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Old 10th Aug 2017, 08:25
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To quote a woman who saw the film

"That story was fairly good but a bit extreme in parts"

I wonder if they can separate blockbuster films such as Blazing Inferno from others based on facts?
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