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Old 5th Jul 2017, 15:23
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3point turn in a 757!

Oh my giddy gawd!
I once tried a 3 point turn with a supermarket trolley,in Tesco's!..Got it well and truly stuck in the aisle,a Saturday afternoon,as well...
Got far less gyp than the poor 757 guys in Greece
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 16:27
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FWIW, the C-17 was specifically designed for such turns at MTOGW and they are considered routine.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 17:40
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I've reversed back down the runway on reverse pitch a few tens of yards in order to avoid having to taxy right to the end turn off before now, usually because the "I bet we can stop before the tower turn off" went wrong............

This was on a quiet airfield with little traffic, plus we cleared the runway quicker by just reversing a bit anyway.

The only two slightly unnerving things were that you can't see where you're going, plus the nosewheel steering didn't behave as well as it should.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 18:27
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At least the C17 has a rear view door.
Was always interesting seeing the "pushback of last resort: using reverse thrust...usually DC-9s.
Got a bit noisy on the ramp but cleaned up any FOD quite nicely.
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Old 5th Jul 2017, 19:48
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Bring back wing mirrors then. Great source of rusting too.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 12:19
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beech 200 was a sinch....but heaven forbid any braking!!!
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 12:40
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I think, from some comments made in the original post, is that while it might be an approved manoeuvre on some types, it does need a little training. The pitfalls can be painful & expensive. May I ask those in USA, where on certain types, and certain stands/airports, it can be quite common, what were the training requirements, wing-walkers and cockpit comms? I would find it hard to believe guys were just let lose to do it willy nilly.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 13:45
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He almost coasted back just for a few meters. He was not making this manoeuvre out of a gate on a busy ramp. It was a very simple unobstructed manoeuvre. A lot of fuss about nothing.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 15:47
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Originally Posted by RAT 5 View Post
I think, from some comments made in the original post, is that while it might be an approved manoeuvre on some types, it does need a little training. The pitfalls can be painful & expensive. May I ask those in USA, where on certain types, and certain stands/airports, it can be quite common, what were the training requirements, wing-walkers and cockpit comms? I would find it hard to believe guys were just let lose to do it willy nilly.
Ive seen C17's do it a few times & they make it look easy but a civil pilot in a 757 what could possibly go wrong lol
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 20:10
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Tried in a 152 yesterday. Didn't work for some reason.
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 20:31
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Did it in a 1-11 due to a taxi c...k up one night, slot times etc. As we were eventualy heading the correct way I said to the F/O "I suppose we had better make a report about that" He said "about what" Thats what I call a mate. Or good MCC!!
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Old 8th Jul 2017, 21:46
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rogerg......and in those days it wouldn't have been plastered on social media for all to see and for others to then offer their expert opinions!
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Old 9th Jul 2017, 03:41
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Originally Posted by Hotel Tango View Post
rogerg......and in those days it wouldn't have been plastered on social media for all to see and for others to then offer their expert opinions!
Back then, even if it had been, it would have been considered "daring" and proactive.

We've learned a lot since then, that's all, and I don't mean all of us.

Half the people who put their fat butts on a seat in a commercial aircraft these days seem to be waiting for some reason to tweet or facebook about some "near death, horrifying, nearly crashed into the dayschool" event.

Earlier in this thread, I made the comment that I was happy I wasn't on that aircraft.

I've thought through it, and decided I'd probably pay twice the going ticket price if I could be assured of a flight that used reverse thrust to turn around.

Call me old fashioned...

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Old 9th Jul 2017, 14:25
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In the olde days,we could get away with flexing the rules a little,as the jury was usually limited to a few people in ops..The tea was usually naf,but the biscuits were often quite nice!
Now,every bodyburp can be shared with the world at large!

Once survived a PA in which I declared most of the travellers as "the worst passengers I'd carried in over 20 years of ops", due to their reaction to my cabin staff over a technical problem.
Nowadays,it would most probably find its way onto YouTube,and I would be hung out to dry,regardless of the merits!
I pray that I get to retirement without becoming an unwilling reality star....maybe I should be kinder in my announcements
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