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Old 15th Sep 2016, 10:40
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Originally Posted by sitigeltfel View Post
The leader of this merry little band of SJWs missed the protest because she was jetting off on a taxpayer funded trip to take part in a feminist conference in Brazil!
On which airline? It (they) should be named and shamed.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 11:02
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I do think civil cases should be used against the sort of people more often. The airport should sue them for a nominal sum for loss of earnings/costs incurred caused by their action, say £5k/£10k. Might even then be eligible for small claims track which is fairly automatic and cheap in operation. Then the enforcement of it will be hanging over their heads. At some stage these pampered, middle class, snowflake generation kids might grow up and want mortgages/loans or other normal interactions with society. An unpaid civil debt will cause them significant hassle.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 13:52
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some bunch of left wing, unsavoury, unemployed, sometimes unwashed, anti-social scumbags
Black Lives Matter activists hail 'white privilege' as they walk free over airport protest.

Read the details of the miscreants - some are far from the above description:-

The Fiennes cousin

Twenty-five-year-old Natalie Geraldine Twistleton-Wykeham-Fiennes is a cousin of actor Ralph. She is a veteran of climate camp protests, taking her Cath Kidston tent. The LSE graduate, who studied English literature and sociology, lives with her parents in their £2million house just off Clapham Common. She told the court she supports herself by babysitting.

The lesbian expert

Esme Waldron, 23, a University of Sussex film graduate and former Churston Grammar School pupil, is a documentary maker and self-proclaimed expert on lesbian culture. Once named A-level ‘student of the year’, she later made a film about older lesbians called Now You See Me.

The buddhist

Ben Tippet gave his address as Fiennes’ family home in Wandsworth and is another LSE graduate. With blonde-dyed hair, the 24-year-old is an outspoken critic of the arms trade. One of his online user names is ‘Buddhist Ben’.

The expert climber

Spanish graduate Sama Baka is one of three protesters who live on the Northern Soul houseboat, moored at Roydon, Essex. Baka, 27, is an expert climber who has volunteered for clean air projects and raised cash for clean water in Uganda.

The musician

Anti-aviation campaigner Richard Collet-White, who has a degree in French and Russian from Oxford’s Exeter College, is jobless. The 23-year-old is an accomplished tenor, who played keyboards in a ska band and has volunteered for causes from Oxfam to community food growing.

The green fanatic

The second houseboat resident, Sam Lund-Harket, 32, supports activists across the UK in a range of movements from disaster aid to the RSPB. An environmental officer at university, the shaven-headed campaigner says he has been passionate about the planet since he was 16. He is a leading activist with the campaign group Global Justice Now and has worked with other similar groups.

The stage director

The final houseboat dweller, Corbynista Alex Etchart, 26, founded and directed West End show the Sex Workers Opera, performed by real-life burlesque dancers. He is a musician who works with ‘youth empowerment’ charities and has a degree in social anthropology and ethnomusicology from SOAS. His father is a Uruguayan who claims to be living in the UK in political exile. Etchart has previously taken part in anti-fracking camps.

The organic farmer

William Pettifer, 27, works on an organic Somerset farm and claims to be plotting the ‘downfall of white supremacist capitalist patriarchy’. The son of a company director, he took part in a blockade of Heathrow Airport last November.

The student activist

The oddest member of an odd group, Deborah Francis-Grayson, 31, lives in Slough where she is doing a media and communications PhD. She is interested in ‘intergenerational education work’ and volunteers with various groups to get people involved in politics. She has a conviction relating to a demonstration at Parliament against climate change in 2009.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 14:46
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I bet they wouldn't have tried that in the US or Russia !
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 15:03
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Originally Posted by ExXB View Post
On which airline? It (they) should be named and shamed.
You can't blame the airline. However, everyone of those named, and any who follow, should go on a worldwide no-fly list.
How could they possibly complain?
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 15:10
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Amazing how often the L.S.E. crops up with these sort of people.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 16:19
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Nothing really changes I guess, as I recall it from way back in the early 70's LSE set the gold standard in the UK when it came to student unrest and activism....if you look at the list of alumni and others those associated with the place it certainly attracts polititicial free thinkers...
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Further to my complaints much earlier about the overly sympathetic treatment of these idiots by the BBC, did anyone notice this week's Skies Above Britain episode? They had film of the earlier and similar sit-in on at Heathrow 27L, and extensive coverage of related demos and court hearings involving the Plane Stupid clowns.

The label "clown" is deserved because the main protagonist said that by preventing activities on 27L for a few hours they had saved several tons of carbon emissions? Never knew planes shut down their engines and glided into Heathrow after a shut-down.

And the BEEB never asked a single critical question in the face of such total lunacy.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 17:02
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Sadly they got off just as lightly as the current mob, though there was a lovely bit where the aforementioned main protagonist had a complete change of demeanour when the possibility of a jail time sentence arose. Sadly the judge bottled it though.
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Old 15th Sep 2016, 17:07
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Originally Posted by wiggy View Post
it certainly attracts polititicial free thinkers...
I could suggest another word ending in "kers"!
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 06:40
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I'm not always in agreement with what Richard Littlejohn writes but I think he's spot on this morning:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/ar...t-justice.html
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 08:42
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G-CPTN, re your post 91

You challenged my use of "some bunch of left wing, unsavoury, unemployed, sometimes unwashed, anti-social scumbags", and give brief descriptions of some of the miscreants. After reading those descriptions I think my words were not too far from the truth.

"left wing" - I suggest that is quite accurate. Doubt there were many Torygraph subscribers in that group.

"unsavoury" - I find them all pretty unsavoury as do many others

"unemployed" - OK have to hold my hand up here only one was described thus, the rest might be better described as 'not usefully employed'.

"unwashed" - maybe I got carried away in this instance but many of the 'professional protester' fraternity seem to be more than a little 'crusty'.

"anti-social" - I am pretty certain that most of the UK population finds their actions 'contrary to the laws and customs of society, in a way that causes annoyance and disapproval in others.'

So overall 3.5 out of 5, or 70% correct. Not too bad really
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 09:02
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An amusing mix of racism and group think on this thread. Does it not though raise a question about limitations among pilot and related job personality types?

I mean if you spend all of your working life doing as you are told, strictly by the manual or book, never daring to think independently of the 'rules'' and in private lives preferring political cant over rational and independent analysis, then is it not Victor Meldrew with a dash of racism (and probably sexism no?) that awaits?


In the good old days people who pushed back, abandoned the flock and had the bottle to stand up to or question accepted norms whatever the risk to themselves, were deserving of and got respect, whether one agreed with them or not.

Here they attract people wishing them the worst harms possible and delighting at the thought of inflicting said violence personally, in a scarily Nazi type way, even on their children (though they'd never have the bottle in reality would they?)

Funny old world isn't it
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 09:12
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In the good old days people who pushed back, abandoned the flock and had the bottle to stand up to or question accepted norms whatever the risk to themselves, were deserving of and got respect, whether one agreed with them or not.
Well it took a while but we've almost got to Godwin's Law..

I'm not sure the LCY group were abandoning any norms or risking anything, they knew they were on safe ground dealing with the British police and the British legal system and were indulging in the opportunity to grab a bagful of publicity and get their pictures in the papers...Hardly a case of risking life and limb resisting a repressive regime is it?

Now if they are willing to go off and try similar stuff in Russia or Africa hats off to them, they might have my respect....

OTOH hand many many people at the airport that day were trying to go about their lawful business, engage in peaceful activities such as seeing friends and relatives....but I guess they don't count.
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 09:21
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Originally Posted by connoisseur View Post
An amusing mix of racism and group think on this thread.
A group of privileged whities stage a demonstration which has nothing whatsoever to do with race but claim that it is a matter that affects just one racial group?

Hijacking a racial issue and falsely labelling it to disguise your real intentions is as bad an example of racism as can be found.
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 10:26
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Smeagol,

I think you used too many words to describe them. One should have been sufficient. Four letters of your choice followed by the letter 's' in order to to describe them as a group.
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Old 16th Sep 2016, 23:11
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I read the first few pages of this thread until it got to be the usual JB mouth frothing rant. It made me wonder if after posting people go off to their study and flagellate themselves.
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 17:42
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Natalie Geraldine Twistleton-Wykeham-Fiennes



Still can't get over this

Natalie Geraldine Twistleton-Wykeham-Fiennes



It's just perfect isn't it, like a Whitehouse and Enfield sketch

In fact if they wrote this story and made this person the main protagonist, it would seem too far-fetched
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Old 18th Sep 2016, 17:53
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" It made me wonder if after posting people go off to their study and flagellate themselves " .

Perish the thought !...most of them are good right wing chaps so, in keeping with their affinity for Class 3B schoolroom group dynamics on here, they probably make an excuse about "seeing the chaps after work"...before happily visiting Ms Flaybums Academy for the Corrections of Errant School Boys...to further re-live their schooldays....in her study...
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KnC - ever decided to go to the Highland games and toss the caber? Should be a doddle for you as the chip on your shoulder is obviously massive!
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