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Old 6th Sep 2016, 17:20
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But if the villains were all chained to the tripod then a hook slung through the top of that and attached to a Chinook, for example, would allow the whole lot to be airlifted in one go and then dropped in the Thames.
Alternatively and to show that the quality of mercy is not strained, the tripod could have been enclosed and built up with faggots of wood which could then have been ignited to make a merry little pyre.
One could then have explained to the protesting press that under no circumstances would the demonstrators have been treated like that had they been black.
The resultants would be a cleared runway and a public relations trumph.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 17:45
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I've been looking at the BBC website report on this. They give more prominence to the spoutings of the protesters than to anything else. These people do such things because there are always enough sympathetic idiots in the media who will give them loads of publicity.

Would it be too much to expect the authorities to make it plain to the BBC that they should report the incident without turning it into a free publicity gig? Howls about censorship.....
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 17:55
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There has to be a practical way of moving these clowns safely and within the law.
Talk of cranes and bonfires is briefly amusing but we need an actual answer and not a comedy one.

As a former local, it is not far fetched that an otherwise permitted boat could deposit a small number of men up to no good quite easily to a moving airliner at the 27 end. There is NOTHING to stop this, a little boom prevents access to the wider river but there's no fencing.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:03
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Perhaps if the courts administered something other than a slap on the wrist to such criminals. The greenpeacers at Heathrow comes to mind. These guys can hardly be given anything else as what the Heathrow nuts got.

Full disclosure. I was a avid supporter of Greenpeace in the 70s, but not any more.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:03
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""Black lives matter". Now a front for the Socialist Workers Party" --ahhh the old SWP...... truly one of the weirder branches of the Left......... make the CPGB and the old CPGB (ML) look really sane and middle of the road..........
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:46
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So to clarify. This wasn't the Judean Peoples' Front?
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 18:52
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So to clarify. This wasn't the Judean Peoples' Front?
Nope, we are talking about the Peoples front of Judea.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 19:08
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We should surely get a bit of perspective here.

The steps down to the water, along with the LCY rescue boat which the firemen man, are provided because there is an acceptably low but still recognised risk, from experiences of other airports alongside water, of an aircraft departing the runway and entering the water. So it is good to have means to handle that eventuality.

Meanwhile someone getting onto a runway and destroying an aircraft has, as far as I am aware, never, ever happened. Such scenarios are really best left to Hollywood B-movie scriptwriters rather than the ludicrous attitudes displayed by some of the scaremongers above. Dickheads who come and make protests, which they could quite equally have done by chaining up the terminal front doors, should just be ignored.

As one who regularly lands at LCY I'm quite glad that the emphasis is the right way.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 19:23
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Nope, we are talking about the Peoples front of Judea.
Defiantly not the Popular Front then
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 19:36
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Well, y'see, their plan to kidnap the Pilot's wife was foiled so they held themselves to ransom.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 20:13
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it does seem odd that there is no defined perimeter at LCY -just because it is in the water doesn;t mean you cannot build a boat stopping fence or have a boom of some kind.

Bizarre too that the protest is bannered black lives mater but all about immigrants-I thought the original US black lives matter was aimed at reducing gang vs gang crime and red neck cops with itchy trigger fingers (I am not making light of those issues either)

Always astonished at people s shoot on sight views -no doubt my protective boom should be a minefield in their eyes . On the other hand though:-

The UK old bill are too polite and pc (not PC) -perhaps going back to the 'good old days'of the Met SPG and 'We're the Sweeney son and we havent had our dinner so unless you want a good kicking tell us what you know about......' might not work in todays society theres not getting away from the fact that at some point force becomes necessary and fear is a good way of preventing that. five foot two girls in Hi Viz are fine for some situations but not whena bit of intimidation is required .
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 20:22
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Originally Posted by WHBM
Meanwhile someone getting onto a runway and destroying an aircraft has, as far as I am aware, never, ever happened.
One might quibble about details (the aircraft were not on the actual runway) but I think the May 22, 2011 attack at PNS Mehran which among other successes destroyed two P3-C aircraft was along these lines.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 20:48
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Wow. So they got to the UK now, and can't be handled there either.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 21:43
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Hate crime?

Surely committing an illegal act on behalf of a specific racial group counts as a 'hate crime' these days; and should be punished accordingly.
But then it seems to be OK to have a Black Police Officers Ass without it being categorised as racist. So I'm not too hopefull.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 22:42
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Hmm... one wonders about the possibility of training skunks to run into crowds.
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Old 6th Sep 2016, 23:00
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Apparently they weren't carrying more than 100ml of liquids on them.....
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 01:47
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What has a "Black Lives Matter" protest got to do with City Airport?
Reminds me of a newspaper cartoon I saw several years ago (in Australia) depicting a somewhat-confused looking gentleman carrying a placard saying "Stop Mining Whales".

For some people it is not important that their cause be either logical, valid or relevant. The object is simply to be seen protesting.

In that cartoon, the giant hand of God was descending from a cloud with thumb and forefinger positioned to flick the poor, misguided individual all the way to protestor's oblivion.
Unfortunately no such intervention at City Airport.

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Old 7th Sep 2016, 07:57
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No gunfire; no dead bodies; and they remain in one place protesting on the runway ...

Well, that is something one could always establish after an exchange of fire.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 08:11
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Personally I'd have just left them there.

A few days of cold, zero publicity, food or water and laying in their own faeces with immediate arrest when they finally unlock might deter future attempts.
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Old 7th Sep 2016, 08:19
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At the end of the last century a smaller airport around London had a similar problem. Overnight a group of "travelers" arrived in the cafe car park with caravans - landside. Cafe owner arrived at 6:45 to open cafe and found car park full, requests to move met with 4 letter words. Cafe owner contacts tower. Tower said he would send someone and something. 7:15 fire service arrived with the water jet mounted on top of fire engine. Duty manager told them to leave private land. Load of 4 letter words. Duty manager said if you don't move the water integrity of the caravans would be tested. Load of four letter words. Duty manager used a four letter word - "fire". Within 10 seconds they agreed to move - one caravan had a concave side panel and the roof had split open at the roof/side panel joint (obviously no recent C/D check!), result of the water pressure. Site cleared by 7:35. Workers could now get breakfast as usual, firemen enjoyed lots of free bacon rolls.

Politically correct I doubt it, firing water against poor underprivileged people of no fixed abode and no consistent education etc etc. Effective 100%.
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