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Anjem Choudary Charged

Old 17th Aug 2016, 06:08
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Anjem Choudary Charged

Can hardly put into words how happy I am by this news.

Radical cleric Anjem Choudary guilty of inviting IS support - BBC News

One of the UK's most notorious radical clerics has been convicted of inviting others to support the so-called Islamic State, it can now be reported.
Police said Anjem Choudary, 49, had stayed "just within the law" for years, but was arrested in 2014 after pledging allegiance to the militant group.
Many people tried for serious terror offences were influenced by his lectures and speeches, police said.

Sentencing on Sept 6th. Really hope they throw the full 10 years at him.

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Old 17th Aug 2016, 06:17
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Is that all? Ten years? A guest of HMG at our expense? How many years has he been living on benefits?
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 06:48
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 06:50
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According to The Telegraph Muslim preacher urges followers to claim 'Jihad Seeker's Allowance' - Telegraph he 'claims more than 25,000 a year in benefits'.

He needs to be muzzled in prison, where he will be seen as a hero by the Islamists. Camp Bucca risk Camp Bucca: The US prison that became the birthplace of Isis
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 06:53
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Do we want to merge the two threads now running on this?
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 07:27
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Can we change the title to CONVICTED
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 08:52
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Great news indeed, well done finally.

I am sure the "moderate muslims" will be quite happy as well.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 09:14
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Brilliant to see and read this piece of Shite is getting some sort of comeuppance for all the vile and obnoxious words he has spoke against the British Army and the Allies who have been involved in trying to quell the IS/Talib problem.

Just a shame he cannot be found to be complicit in the murder of Gunner Rigby..

But I do feel he should be muzzled in Prison possibly be kept in solitary for his entire sentence...!!
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 09:17
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Yes but just how long will Choudary really spend in chokey? A couple of years maybe in which he will probably have unfettered comms to continue to incite?

Any interruption to the benefits his brood enjoys?

I am all for it but just hope it throttles him back at least a little bit.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 09:53
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Wonder how long we would have remained free standing on a corner bellowing anti islamic bile of a similar character? our feet would not have touched the ground,we would have been locked years ago.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 09:56
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One can only hope a jailed member of the NF works him over in prison.
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Do we want to merge the two threads now running on this?
Please don't. This thread is about an evil individual whose trial and conviction were long overdue.

The other thread provides a home for many who wish to spout their thinly disguised Islamophobia which brackets all Muslims with vile examples like Choudary.

Yes Dirty Prop, moderate Muslims (no inverted commas) will be happy about this conviction. Why wouldn't they be?
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 11:12
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I'm a muslim, and I'm very happy this hate-filled egotist has been convicted. All I can say is that I don't think that for the hardship he's caused to many others directly, or indirectly, that 10 years is anywhere near enough.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 11:39
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He won't serve ten years, it will be more like 5 at the most, and as he'll probably be classified well down the offending scale he may well end up with the ability to radicalise as many young people inside prison as out. He will be allowed to practice his religion, and may well end up being an imam to the Muslim population of whatever prison he's held in. I've no doubt his many thousands of supporters will consider him a martyr to their cause and will actively recruit whilst he's locked up.

My guess is that he may, just possibly, get the maximum 10 year sentence, which means he will be out on the streets again in less than five years from now, as he will be released after serving half of his sentence, unless there is something in the sentencing guidelines for the offence he's been convicted of that allows a longer term spent actually in prison than has been reported in the media.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 12:05
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This piece of scum is not a cleric so why do the media keep calling him one? He is a qualified lawyer yet is able to live off benefits I heard his housing benefit is 1,300 per month why is that allowed?

He was defended in court under legal aide which seemingly has run to millions of pounds why?

The BBC treated him like some kind of wise expert and at one time he was almost constantly on TV/Radio.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 12:13
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So we're all good then with the idea that a person expressing an opinion on a subject can be sent to prison for 10 years...?

I too think his opinions are odious, revolting drivel....but I do have a wee sense of worry over the concept that no matter how awful those opinions are that a) he should be gagged and b) imprisoned over them.

This isn't the way you win....against ideas! You win against bad ideas by making succinct and definitive better arguments. However you can't do that against religion as it isn't based on logic or rational analysis, just belief.

So you have to look further...and see what the attraction of such nutty religious views might be...and then attack those underlying factors. Otherwise, you'll just make martyrs and go on breeding the contempt and hatred that engenders the acceptance of nutty ideas in the first place....the ideas won't go away unless the breeding ground for them goes away. That is vested in a divided planet, State and corporate protectionism, poverty, power, politics......
What we are currently doing is fighting a greater immorality with a lessor one......maybe it's the best we can achieve?
You also can't expose winning ideas to an audience too stupid to understand them....that's also a hurdle to overcome. Education.
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OK you keep thinking good thoughts, meanwhile the rest of us will rejoice that this thing is getting locked up.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 12:26
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There is a world of difference between, voicing an opinion, and exhorting followers to commit violence against others.

The only thing wrong with his conviction is that it has taken nearly twenty years to achieve it.
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 13:03
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When we watered down the law of treason we went too far in my view. There is no question that this evil bastard has, as a British citizen, been inciting treason for years. Ignore the Islam bit for a moment and look at some of the things he has said quite openly about overthrowing democracy and imposing his warped view of a medieval system of law.

Having just read that he was arrested in 2014, this means that, if he gets the maximum 10 year sentence, and, assuming he has been remanded in custody since his arrest, he will be released from prison in 2019.........................
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Old 17th Aug 2016, 13:14
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VP, you are assuming that he'll survive that long. I have learned that the prison system tends to sort itself out...even hardcore murderers and thieves tend to have a bit of a compass. Child molesterers, sickos and terrorists don't tend to do so well in the big house.
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