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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 14:23
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London Becoming An Armed Camp?

600 more Armed Police in London?

How many is that now for a Police Force that is bragged upon for saying there is no need for Police to be "armed"?

So much for a "Gun Free Society" it would seem.


Hundreds more armed police patrol London in bid to confront terror | Fox News
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 14:30
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It may be a sad but inevitable drift away from traditional British policing but given the declared numbers it's still not exactly an overwhelming presence, certainly when compared with other parts of the world.... whilst police carrying guns is a common sight in some places in and around London (has been for a few years) I certainly wouldn't describe the city as being an "armed camp"...
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The Metropolitan Police Service employs 31,000 officers and thus this 600 represents 1.9% of the total.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 14:41
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How many Plod are "carrying" but done in a manner that one does not know?

I like the way Basil thinks!

That is 1.9% in addition to how many?

Tis a slippery slope you know....once you start down that hill no telling where it leads.

Hopefully it will begin to shorten Response Times when the attacks occur as they surely are bound to happen again.
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Sticking plaster/knee jerk/tokenism. By the time that lot arrive on scene, dozens, maybe hundreds will already be dead.

Unless the problem is tackled at source, and hard, they are pissing into the wind.
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To be read in conjunction with the Notting thread...(?)
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The Metropolitan Police Service employs 31,000 officers and thus this 600 represents 1.9% of the total.
Actually, the figure of armed cops in London is now 2,800, ie 9%, not 2%. Taking into account the fact that many on the strength of 31,000 are desk warriors, the American-style militarised proportion is much greater than that.

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I remember when I was on a school exchange to Lyon in 1963 seeing gendarmes with sub machine guns standing guard as cash was being delivered to a bank from an armoured van. I was totally amazed, as i'd never seen anything like that before.

Seems like its just taken us 50 years or so to catch up. This doesn't worry me at all - I also like the idea of the bikes - the fastest car in the world is totally useless in gridlocked streets.

Unless the problem is tackled at source, and hard, they are pissing into the wind.
Yeah, yeah, great idea - but how?
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 15:07
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A couple of years ago I headed down to the local convenience at about 9pm to fetch some milk for the Lady of the house's evening cup of tea. Within 200m of our abode, I unfortunately struck a Kangaroo that, with its mate, had ventured into urban areas looking for a bite to eat (the drought was on at the time).

Said Roo wasn't dead as such, but was obviously disabled in that it it just lay there looking at its legs that didn't work anymore.

Sans milk, I returned home and phoned the local constabulary. To their credit, they arrived post haste advising me that such a call out was common place lately. Said officer then removed his .38 from his holster and despatched said 'roo from its mortal coil. So we thought.

Reloading from the headlights of my car I asked the officer 'I suppose you are going to need to account for that round?'

'Nah' he says, 'they're pretty good these days'.

Meanwhile, assistant plod is looking at the deceased and says 'hey boss, he isn't dead'.

'Well finish him off!' says plod.

Assistant plod aims down the barrel, and his mobile phone rings. With one hand he answers the phone.

'Yeah, g'day mate, just hang on a tic *bang*. What's going on?'

It felt like I was in New Orleans! (except for the kangaroo part)
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It felt like I was in New Orleans! (except for the kangaroo part)
What colour was the Kangaroo?
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An eastern grey. Didn't do as much damage to my front left guard as a big red might have, but at least he wasn't black..
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Hempy, I think you missed the point!
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 15:44
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Maybe. The point being horses for courses? I dunno!

If plod needs firearms to dispatch injured wildlife, fair enough. If plod needs firearms to protect innocent people, fair enough. If plod needs firearms to protect him(her)selves own lives, fair enough too.

It's all a matter of society. I'm just happy that that the only round my local plod is likely to fire is into a Kangaroo with a broken back.
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Actually, the figure of armed cops in London is now 2,800, ie 9%
And thus these extra 1.9% makes a total of 10.9% armed officers. Still a long way from an "armed camp"
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Far too much like America for my liking, especially as we are talking about the Met which has a recognised problem of institutionalised racism.

The creeping Americanisation of the British way of life is not a good thing.
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 17:14
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What the Met are doing is NOT the same as generally armed forces in the US and other countries. Gun crimes in the UK are generally very low and don't need a routinely armed force.
This latest arming strategy is a specific response to terrorist threats. One has to make a judgement through as to how much it can actually prevent attacks and how much is for reassurance of the public (which of course is a valid aim in itself)
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I recall encountering 'openly armed' police at railway stations during the era of the IRA bomb attacks in Britain.
Do they still patrol airports?
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 17:25
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" How many is that now for a Police Force that is bragged upon for saying there is no need for Police to be "armed"?


Obviously, this being your only interest in life, the emotional toil of reading about this increase has taken it's toll.....see underlined above.

Whilst it is disconcerting to see more visible armed police on London's streets, and possibly elsewhere in time, there is a somewhat obvious reason with the increase in terrorist activity as to why they are there. Despite your invariably flawed grasp of the facts, I think it's fair to say you won't be seeing armed police in Little Snottington on the Wold as a matter of course.

The UK police have been armed and carrying overt weapons for many years, there's nothing new about this and the UK population have long accepted this to be the case. Let's face it, any television police drama invariably requires armed response as an integral and the public are quite happy to be educated in this manner.

Maybe you, being able to "speak cop" should pop over for a few days and offer your own advice which would, I am sure, be treated and viewed accordingly.

So much for a "Gun Free Society" it would seem

Bingo ! we do have a gun free society....well done !
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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 17:28
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Do they still patrol airports?
Yes.

They've never done any bloody good, but they do strut their stuff.

They even had them in Glasgow when there really was a terrorist attempt.

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Old 3rd Aug 2016, 17:42
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G-CPTN, armed police still patrol some airports. They may also patrol ferry terminals.
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