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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:31
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What is going on in Nice?

Just enjoyed a fantastic Bastille Day firework display in the tiny French town of Saint-Jean-Du-Gard and just got into hear the terrible news on the BBC. Details are confused but simply WTF.

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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:37
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Agencies reporting at least 30 dead and over 100 injured.

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Depending on which TV Channel you're watching, anything between 12 and 60 people killed by a large truck deliberately driven into a crowd watching a firework display.

The driver shot and killed by the police.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:43
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:47
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On the Promenade des Anglais. Bastard! (him, not you Fred or Huzz or SFP)

The driver shot and killed by the police
Before? during? or after his drive?
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:55
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No news given, but the pictures showing the truck with smashed front and broken windscreen.

Witnesses saying it drove about 75 metres along the pavement crushing people before stopping, then the police started firing.
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 22:59
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Newsfeed is full of videos with people smashed and blood on the pavement. Nice officials told about "up to 50 killed and more than 100 injured".
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Old 14th Jul 2016, 23:06
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Police confirm they have identified 73 bodies 'with no signs of life' and ' the victims are likely to include many Germans and British as well as French '

TV also reporting that the Truck drove almost 2kms along the pavement before stopping.
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The mayor of Nice now saying that the driver was also shooting at pedestrians,

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Totally agree, one just hopes they and their families are never put in this position, absolutely pathetic excuses for human beings.

RIP and my heartfelt condolences to those families effected by this tragedy.
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France is on the verge of 'civil war', the country's head of intelligence says | Daily Mail Online

I think he's right. It's not going to take much more for the French to start pushing back.
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Pushing back?
And just what does that entail?
France, and a number of others, have an entrenched fifth column. Isis doesn't really need to send in more.
Just what are you going to do about that?
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 00:44
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Well Meadow that is indeed the question for the first quarter (at least) of this century.

Not every problem has a solution and this is a tough one. Is it an existential problem? Well, it would be hard to frame it as such but it is certainly is a hi-impact asymmetrical one.

At this moment I do not envy those who have aides who file in every morning to the staff meeting with the thick briefing books--in other words Presidents and Prime Ministers and Chancellors. These require tough decisions.

Out of frustration though I will say I am tired of the same old tropes that are trotted out after things like this. Mentions of English kings Crusading hundreds of years ago, the Westboro Baptist Church, or that we, by our mere existence, serve as a provocation. These counterpoints are shopworn. I know they will be put out though. Express horror, ROP, don't let it divide us, watch out for the backlash, etc. Just put it on autoplay.

The sheer nihilism of these attacks beggars beliefs. I fear it is a cliche but our thoughts really do go out the those directly affected by this. Moments of familial joy turned to death. Repulsive.

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If there is a cancer in society and it cannot be treated with non-invasive methods - you remove it. If you don't - you do not have your society anymore.
Those true to the religion of Islam belong in Islamic countries if they cannot accept that their religion takes second place to the values instilled in centuries of progressive civilization.

*all Jet Blast colleagues are requested to respect our French friends and colleagues for a decent interval*

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Old 15th Jul 2016, 01:41
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From the Guardian a few minutes ago:
Both French TV station BFM and local newspaper Nice-Matin are reporting that the driver is a 31-year-old with dual French-Tunisian nationality. BFM is quoting a police source via Agence France-Presse who said that an ID card was found inside the truck. Reports say the man was a Nice resident.
Update offered without further comment beyond condolences to the people of Nice.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 01:53
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This video is as graphic as it is heart breaking. An gruesome ashphalt killing field. Think twice before watching.
pic.twitter.com/nKeiwYq9VL

If you choose to watch this 50 meter walk along the road you'll agree that the death toll could have been far higher given it travelled 2km.

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Old 15th Jul 2016, 02:02
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Oh dear, it is now at 77 lost.
Per the Guardian:
Christian Estrosi, the president of the Nice region, has told iTélé that the death toll is now 77.
@mickjoebill I'd recommend a warning to that link. Granted, it is someone's blog, and he does offer a warning before anyone can see the video. But it's graphic and harsh.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 02:45
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Well its now up to 80 poor souls.

We are probably are at the stage of war now with the radical jihadists. The French Intelligence chief was right and he only made that statement 2 days ago.

War isn't fair and we should not be concerned with political correctness any longer.

Countries are either with us or against us in the effort to get rid of this lot. We all know which countries are not.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 03:11
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You have to wonder how much of this sort of thing a nation can absorb without doing anything.

There has to be a point when the pressure to cry "Enough!" becomes irrestible.
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Old 15th Jul 2016, 03:13
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The French will react in their own idiom and in their own time. I hope that our leadership on this side of the pond will be supportive of the French when they ask for assistance.
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