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Old 25th Mar 2016, 03:55
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Can someone explain to me how this is allowed to happen? The U.K. and Europe in general is doomed.

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Old 25th Mar 2016, 06:54
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I have no problem with Halal certification as long as I'm not paying for it. If a manufacturer wants to make Halal products and sell them at price which covers the cost and gives a profit thats fine by me.

Make a separate, Halal line of a product and offer it at a premium, over the normal price to account for the cost of any special procedures and certifications.

Its unreasonable to make everything Halal and charge everyone the extra cost for something they don't need or want. This goes for Kosher, Jain, vegan and any other religious dietary requirements as well.

If you want the badge, you pay for it. Don't expect a subsidy from me.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 08:58
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Cadbury have apparently "banned" the use of the word Easter on their chocolate eggs save it offends non Christians! That's their sales figures buggered then?
Rumor has it : snopes.com

False - it says.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 09:46
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Don't worry everyone. Freedom of Speech is alive and well in Britain according to the BBC this morning.



The religious leader at Scotland's biggest mosque has praised an extremist who was executed for committing murder in Pakistan, the BBC can reveal.
Imam Maulana Habib Ur Rehman of Glasgow Central Mosque used the messaging platform WhatsApp to show his support for Mumtaz Qadri.
Qadri was hanged in February after murdering a local politician who opposed strict blasphemy laws.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 10:05
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Hold on chaps, he wasn't actually stopped from saying anything.......ergo, he was free to say it.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 10:09
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I think people have far too much to say anyway: I got tired of listening to them so I stopped. So many opinions about everything. The moral vacuum at the BBC doesn't help either.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 11:24
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False - it says.
As I said earlier. I have the evidence in front of my eyes as I type. Banner on Cadbury's Easter egg box reads "Join in this Easter ..." and goes on to refer to various Cadbury Easter activities and gives a website address.

Time to hit this latest offering from the operators of outrage buses firmly on the head

Meanwhile Gerry Adams has offered his condolences to the relatives those killed in Brussels.

You couldn't make it up!
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 11:36
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Has the BBC's story changed since first posted? What it says now is:

Police would not confirm whether the arrest relates to the tweet which went viral or to other statements on social media posted by the same user.
So who is saying he was arrested over a tweet? And why?
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 13:11
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A man has been charged with inciting racial hatred after a message was posted on his Twitter profile about confronting a Muslim woman over the Brussels terror attacks.
Matthew Doyle is charged with publishing or distributing threatening, abusive or insulting material, likely or intended to stir up racial hatred.
The 46-year-old from south Croydon was arrested on Wednesday.
He will appear before Camberwell Green Magistrates Court on Saturday.
The Met Police said the charge follows an investigation by officers at Croydon Police Community Safety Unit.
From:- Man faces Brussels tweet charge - BBC News
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 13:34
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A religious hatred offence has been created by Parliament, and came into force on 1 October 2007. However, this law is very different from the race hate law already on the statute books in that it only covers threatening words or behaviour (not insults or abuse) and only covers such words or behaviour that is intended to stir up religious hatred (not that likely to stir hatred).
That is a direct quote from the CPS prosecution policy document, available online.

I simply can't see how either the tweet, or the actions described therein, could possibly cross the CPS' own threshold for a prosecution.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 13:49
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Quite brave of the man to confront a lone woman.

Well done.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 13:56
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Originally Posted by Toadstool View Post
Quite brave of the man to confront a lone woman.
I think it is OK as long as he doesn't get into the habit . . .
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 14:05
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Freedom of speech, in the proper sense, has been lost in the UK.

We must limit ourselves to non- judgemental comments, and if you hold some view on something- and it's not the mainstream one, better keep quiet about it.

We've gone from a nation of shopkeepers, to a nation of plonkers.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 15:01
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Has anyone noticed (UK) while shopping for chocolate eggs (Easter) have no reference as to 'Easter Egg' printed on the package?

You won't, and I'm worried.
Worry not, as has been said already by others, the story is utterly bogus. Made up by sloppy hacks with little moral backbone designed to sell newspapers (I use that term loosely) and stir up hatred between race/creed/religions.

I'm more worried that you took the story at face value to re-inforce your world view instead of taking a few moments to check the facts before posting it here.


Freedom of speech, in the proper sense, has been lost in the UK.

We must limit ourselves to non- judgemental comments, and if you hold some view on something- and it's not the mainstream one, better keep quiet about it.

We've gone from a nation of shopkeepers, to a nation of plonkers.
Speak for yourself pal.

I have no fear speaking my mind publicly, but perhaps that is because I don't go around making ridiculous and provocative statements to complete strangers I happen to meet in the streets.


I haven't bought Cadbury's for years now. In Australia, there is the 'halal scam', which has recently made the media.
Some manufacturers, including Cadbury's, pay inflated fees for 'halal' certification of their products and pass the cost on to consumers. Lindt, whose Sydney cafe was the scene of a violent muslim siege where the cafe manager and a pregnant woman were killed, don't pay the halal tax. And their chocolate is far better.

There is no such thing as a halal tax. It is, again, a completely bogus concoction of the tabloid press and the idiots who claim to be 'patriots' posting BS memes all over the internet. EG Britain Farce, EDL etc.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 16:43
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Originally Posted by Metro man View Post
Call for jihad or the murder of soldiers and you are well within your rights
Go on then.


Let us know how you get on.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 16:47
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Back to the original topic of freedom of speech...

I'm sure the the EU is behind this sort of censorship and I think the sooner the UK can get out the better, that way our own politicians in Westminster can make sure we all have a voice and a say in the way our country is run.........

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Old 25th Mar 2016, 16:53
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If you want an egg with the Easter message you can buy the "Real Easter Egg" from Fairtrade.

Out of the 80 million Easter eggs sold in this part of the world every year, The Real Easter Egg is the only one which has an Easter story booklet in the box, is made of Fairtrade chocolate and makes a donation to charity from its sales.
The Real Easter Egg was launched in 2010. It was a real struggle as all the supermarkets turned it down at first. To date, we have sold more than one million eggs with 750,000 of these sent through the post directly to churches and schools.
Not only has there been an increase in Fairtrade chocolate sales, but nearly 200,000 has been donated to charity.
A local health club which I frequent has offered to exchange (unwanted?) Easter eggs for a free guest pass or some such freebie. When I was there this morning I would say at a rough guess there were 200 Easter eggs on the table and they will be given to charity. I thought this was a good initiative.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 17:25
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Maybe it's time to make Freedom of Speech an actual civil RIGHT in the UK, rather than an accommodation granted by the government which they can withdraw and/or infringe at any time.
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 19:09
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I've just heard on R4 news that he has been charged following a series of Tweets not just the single Tweet mentioned in the first news article. The reporter went on to say that they were increasingly racist in nature...
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Old 25th Mar 2016, 20:14
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Originally Posted by KenV
Maybe it's time to make Freedom of Speech an actual civil RIGHT in the UK
You mean like at a Donald Trump rally?
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