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Old 17th Mar 2016, 12:54
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Oh FFS!

I am sorry but my bucket of tolerance for PC has now slopped over and made a mess on the floor!
For those who weren't watching the Rugby last Sat, during an "amorous clinch" Joe Marler and Samson Lee exchanged a few words that were picked up on the Ref's mic. Marler was heard to call Samson Lee a "Gypsy Boy".
This has been said to be racist by some and abusive by others.
Samson Lee has never made any secret of his background, quite the contrary, he has trumpeted his pride at being of Romany or Gypsy descent, and why not.

Can someone please explain how, when someone is clearly (and proudly) a male, boy, of Romany/Gypsy descent, is calling him a Gypsy Boy anything other than stating a bleeping fact?

I am bald, calling me baldy is just stating the bleeping obvious NOT an insult!
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 13:15
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The even bigger irony is that Traveller Groups have come out in sympathy with Lee and called Marlers comments a disgrace, demanding sanctions.

Considering the manner with which travellers often treat the local communities they 'travel' through their complaints do see a bit rich.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 13:43
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Must admit I thought this was "all done and dusted yesterday"

England?s Joe Marler cleared to face France despite ?Gypsy boy? comment | Sport | The Guardian

I must admit on the subject of Rugby I'm surprised there's been no comment yet in this place on this little spot of bother:

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...er-six-nations
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 15:14
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If only we could ship them all off to some island where they can live out their socialist dreams and once and for all prove to the world that it doesn't actual work.
Could I suggest Cuba? (Although, need to be quick. With the Americans getting a foot in the door there now that will be the beginning of the end of socialist poverty there.)

I fully agree with baldy on this topic.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 15:35
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I imagine that if a player was refered to as a Welsh Boy, it would be seen as a compliment given the fine heratige we have in Wales. One would have thought that the Gypsy Boy would also feel proud having originated from such a fine liniage; how could anyone possibly think that the remark was derogatory. Meanwhile, nobody seems concerned at them knocking 10 bells out of each other, but name calling, cripes that's dangerous.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 15:57
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Joe Marler was also cited and then cleared of 'striking an opponent'with his forearm in the same match.
Wouldn't it be just typical of the modern world where you could be cleared of GBH,only to be guilty of name calling.
Whatever happened to 'sticks and stones'.......
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 16:36
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I am sorry but my bucket of tolerance for PC has now slopped over and made a mess on the floor!
For those who weren't watching the Rugby last Sat, during an "amorous clinch" Joe Marler and Samson Lee exchanged a few words that were picked up on the Ref's mic. Marler was heard to call Samson Lee a "Gypsy Boy".
This has been said to be racist by some and abusive by others.
Samson Lee has never made any secret of his background, quite the contrary, he has trumpeted his pride at being of Romany or Gypsy descent, and why not.

Can someone please explain how, when someone is clearly (and proudly) a male, boy, of Romany/Gypsy descent, is calling him a Gypsy Boy anything other than stating a bleeping fact?

I am bald, calling me baldy is just stating the bleeping obvious NOT an insult!
The measure of acceptability over here is what would have "TRUMP" called him

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Old 17th Mar 2016, 18:33
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Not much different to Aussies calling Poms.....Poms. We mean it in a derogatory way, otherwise we'd say 'British', but since a. it's in common use and b. Poms are too dumb to know the difference anyway, no one has ever been sanctioned for its use. Storm in a teacup.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 18:49
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a. it's in common use and b. Poms are too dumb to know the difference anyway,
...not to mention c. We Poms couldn't care less anyway!
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 18:58
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...not to mention c. We Poms couldn't care less anyway!
Nor should you, the only thing that matters is the scoreboard.

Oh, sorry, touchy subject. Good luck in RWC 2019. I'm sure you'll make it past the group stage then
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 20:45
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Not much different to Aussies calling Poms.....
A Melbourne baggage loader once put all the bags with a POM label on the flight to London - instead of Port Moresby !!
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 22:28
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Point of order, Mr Hempy, point of order.

Only ENGLISH can be POMS.

One does not refer to Jocks, Paddies or Boyohs as Poms.

Unless one is a iggorant Australian of course............Oh dear
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 22:37
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Hemps .... what a sad life you must have.
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Old 17th Mar 2016, 23:56
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Still banging the same old drum I see, Hempy.

Isn't about time you asked your mummy to buy you a new one?
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 05:57
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Good fishing, Hempy.
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 06:59
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Thanks Hydromet!

I only count it as three in the esky though, sadly I had to throw bosnich71 back in as he was under weight.

What's the bag limit?
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 07:55
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All I can say...
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 08:30
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Being Italian this is fairly new to me.
What's a Pom anyway? Pomeranian? Pomegranate?
If it's Pom-pous, may I suggest you to apply it to French and Yanks as well?
No need to discriminate...
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 08:49
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Ladies please!, give Hempy a break. It's not his/her fault that he has such a tainted view, it's ours (Pom's if you like). We'll have to accept that his/her embitterment is a direct result of our ancestors actions in sending a section of the society at that time, to populate and colonise that scrubland so far away

Hempy - on behalf of my forefathers' - accept my apologies.

See you at the Gabba in 2017
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Old 18th Mar 2016, 08:51
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'Poms' were the convicts ('immigrants') that were sent from Britain to set up Australia. (I don't know if a criminal record is still an 'entry requirement' there...)
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