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Old 17th Jan 2016, 00:53   #281 (permalink)

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So sorry. There was me with my aviation mindset (this being PPRuNe and all).

Somalia is in the ICAO region ESAF (Eastern and Southern Africa). Your definitions, of course, may contradict theirs.
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Old 17th Jan 2016, 01:22   #282 (permalink)


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Somalia is in the ICAO region ESAF (Eastern and Southern Africa). Your definitions, of course, may contradict theirs.
That would figure, seeing that 95% of Somalia is North of the equator.

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Somalia lies north of the equator, so North Africa isn't incorrect though, most people would think of Tunisia, Morocco, Libya, Algeria and Egypt as being true "North Africa"
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Why is it that inoffensive posts just seem to disappear, makes the ones that are left meaningless.

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Old 17th Jan 2016, 08:32   #285 (permalink)
 
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So sorry. There was me with my aviation mindset (this being PPRuNe and all).

Somalia is in the ICAO region ESAF (Eastern and Southern Africa). Your definitions, of course, may contradict theirs.
Given that some 20 years ago, the SSK was, for me at least, the absolute guru of statistics, data and information about aviation in Europe, I just did not know him yet, I was receiving some very interesting statistics published with his signature. Among those statistics, I was very impressed by the Subsaharan Africa term, so I thought the limit was the Sahara between the North and the remaining of the continent. But we learn every day even twenty years down the line.

Metro Man and The SSK nice inputs though!
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Old 17th Jan 2016, 08:57   #286 (permalink)
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United Nations Area Classifications



Northern Africa

Algeria
Egypt
Libya
Morocco
Sudan
Tunisia
Western Sahara

Eastern Africa

Burundi
Comoros
Djibouti
Eritrea
Ethiopia
Kenya
Madagascar
Malawi
Mauritius
Mayotte
Mozambique
Réunion
Rwanda
Seychelles
Somalia
South Sudan
Uganda
United Republic of Tanzania
Zambia
Zimbabwe

Western Africa

Benin
Burkina Faso
Cabo Verde
Cote d'Ivoire
Gambia
Ghana
Guinea
Guinea-Bissau
Liberia
Mali
Mauritania
Niger
Nigeria
Saint Helena
Senegal
Sierra Leone
Togo

Middle Africa

Angola
Cameroon
Central African Republic
Chad
Congo
Democratic Republic of the Congo
Equatorial Guinea
Gabon
Sao Tome and Principe

Southern Africa

Botswana
Lesotho
Namibia
South Africa
Swaziland
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Mostly FUBAR AFRICA.


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Old 17th Jan 2016, 09:28   #288 (permalink)
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Old 17th Jan 2016, 10:02   #289 (permalink)
 
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Anybody with any sense walked out of that place 80,000 years ago.
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Old 17th Jan 2016, 12:38   #290 (permalink)
 
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"Anybody with any sense walked out of that place 80,000 years ago. "


Then there are those that walked (or floated) back in
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Old 21st Jan 2016, 12:00   #292 (permalink)
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EU nations go it alone to guard against migration catastrophe

"The European Union is on the brink of “catastrophe”, the German vice-chancellor warned, after Austria broke ranks to curb the number of refugees that it will allow to claim asylum.

In another signal that the migration crisis was worsening, the Netherlands admitted the existence of a “Plan B” to the EU’s asylum system and Schengen passport-free travel zone if the crisis continues beyond another eight weeks.

Mark Rutte, the Dutch prime minister, warned that the EU risks a “proliferation of initiatives like Austria” as national governments try to protect their frontiers. “We need a sharp reduction in the number of refugees in the coming six to eight weeks,” he told the European parliament in Strasbourg. “The current numbers aren’t sustainable, we are running out of time. We have to think about a plan B but I don’t want to talk about that.”............

Austria said yesterday that it would cap the number of asylum seekers at 37,500 this year, far fewer than the 90,000 who applied in 2015, in a challenge to the Schengen system of open internal borders and a break with Germany’s unlimited approach...... Werner Faymann, the Austrian chancellor, said: “We cannot take in all asylum seekers in Austria. We must step up controls at our borders.”

His move means that any migrants over and above the cap will be refused entry and pushed into Austria’s neighbouring countries in breach of the Geneva convention that requires all people fleeing persecution and war to be given refugee status. Sigmar Gabriel, Germany’s vice-chancellor, described the decision as a “cry for help” and warned that closing borders would lead to “catastrophe”......

Final days of the EU’s refugee strategy

Ultimatums keep coming, and so do the refugees.
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Finally the edifice starts to show its weakness and slowly starts to crack as undeclared self-interest falls under the spotlight.


12 months ago everyone was critical of the UK, now that it affects them directly, the language is of a different sort.
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Old 22nd Jan 2016, 09:28   #294 (permalink)
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Slowly but surely this crazed experiment inflicted on Europe by Mz Merkel is coming apart, and it is clear that no one has the faintest idea what to do. And Merkel has been very quiet lately.
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And now we have the French PM joining in saying enough is enough.
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Coming apart for sure but ending, not a chance. They still come. 2,000 plus a day in winter. Even if it falls totally apart - the problem will remain.
Media reports indicate Germany does not know where more than half of last years intake are. That is 600,000! Many are reported to be using two identities, many five or six.
There is no viable, working plan. There is chaos lurking just slightly under the surface..
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The media would rather show migrants in Calais freezing (how many warmer countries did they choose to travel straight through) than show what is really happening. They don't show the truck drivers under attack or the women forced to cover up and stay at home for fear of being abused.

Something needs to be done now, the longer this goes on the worse it could get. If things are allowed to continue due to political correctness then those people need to be held to account for what will happen.

We also have this madness in the news today.



Plans to be considered by the National Security Council include:

Curbing the "financial incentives" for law firms to pursue "no win, no fee" claims against military personnel, and the reimbursement of costs that can be awarded through such arrangements

Bringing forward plans to make it a requirement for claimants to be resident in the UK for at least 12 months in order to be eligible for legal aid. The new "residence test" is due to come into force in the summer


So let me get this straight. At the moment, people are coming here from Iraq, Afghanistan etc. Being given a house and benefits and then taking the UK government to court for compensation over alleged bad treatment by UK troops during a war?????

It is little wonder so many people are trying to get here.
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They pay enormous sums to people traffickers, trudge across a hostile continent, sail the Mediterranean in flimsy tubs, dodge border guards and spend years in freezing squalid "jungle" camps before risking their lives clinging to the axle of truck while trying to get into the UK.

After all that, they bleat because the door of the taxpayer funded house they have been given has a red paint, which many of them complain stigmatises them as Muslim. The company responsible said they were that colour simply because that was the batch of paint available to do that job.

What next, on top of the free house, free healthcare, education, food and benefits? Let's see, vouchers for custom paint mixes at Farrow and Ball, with David Hockney brought in to do the brushwork.

BTW, if you are worried about being identified as Muslim, heres a bit of advice......the flowing robes, beards, taqiyah, chadors and burkhas are a bit of a giveaway!
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Old 23rd Jan 2016, 07:12   #299 (permalink)
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Bless...you appear to have been over infusing the cornflakes with absinthe again old boy !

" They pay enormous sums to people traffickers, trudge across a hostile continent, sail the Mediterranean in flimsy tubs, dodge border guards and spend years in freezing squalid "jungle" camps before risking their lives clinging to the axle of truck while trying to get into the UK.

Given the conditions they are escaping from, a decent house and facilities would be only too welcome by anybody as would the humanitarian response.

After all that, they bleat because the door of the taxpayer funded house they have been given has a red paint, which many of them complain stigmatises them as Muslim. The company responsible said they were that colour simply because that was the batch of paint available to do that job.

What next, on top of the free house, free healthcare, education, food and benefits? Let's see, vouchers for custom paint mixes at Farrow and Ball, with David Hockney brought in to do the brushwork
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BTW, if you are worried about being identified as Muslim, heres a bit of advice......the flowing robes, beards, taqiyah, chadors and burkhas are a bit of a giveaway!

Sadly, not one of the criteria you outline above seems to be present in these interviews.

However, far more telling is the evasive response..... and body language in the last interview.

http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-u...listref/200116

Asylum seekers in north-east claim they are identifiable by red doors | UK news | The Guardian

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