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Metrojet Flight 9268,whodunnit?

Old 7th Nov 2015, 05:22
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Metrojet Flight 9268,whodunnit?

Hi all,
Being we have a lot of sleuths here in these forums,let's run this one past you all.A real old fashioned "whodunnit" 21 October 2015,During Assad's surprise visit, he had talks with President Vladimir Putin.Russia launched air strikes in Syria two months ago against the so-called Islamic State (IS) and other militant groups battling Mr Assad's forces.
The so called murder triangle= motive,means and opportunity comes into play nicely.In my book,Assad ticks all three boxes and he is not the only one.As for all the "chatter",perfect! and the Syrian intelligence and security services has been involved in other dastardly double dealing outrages,assassination's etc.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 06:06
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Sorry - still don't quite catch your banter, old chap.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 07:48
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Al, old pal,... take a little more water next time, it seems a tad to complex to jump to conclusions like your suggested route would indicate..

My od father was in Egypt in the last big conflict and had little time for them as a race, referring to them as "Thieves and vagabonds" so time will tell us who or which regime is responsible
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 11:43
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I'm ignoring everything in the media until we see some forensic evidence. Idle speculation is for idle ... (insert your own reference here)

Not saying 'black hats' didn't do it; not saying they did.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 13:10
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Al

I believe everything you said so there is no reason to discuss this any further.

ch?t happens and there is clear blame.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 13:51
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Hey lomapaseo

"I believe everything you said so there is no reason to discuss this any further"
So you think I have cracked the case? You can't get anything past me my friend!
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 14:47
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I got a giggle out of a post on another thread.

The question of Egyptian credibility came up.
A person, who'd had dealings with them over the years, said..
"I don't even believe them when they ask a question."
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 16:31
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Egyptian credibility

So after a week of investigation the Egyptian's disclose at the long awaited news conference that,wait for it,there was a wee noise at the back of the plane!
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 16:42
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The cause appears to have been some sort of explosion, from the info released by someone from Airbus based on the CVR only. There are several possible reasons for an explosion, but some form of bomb seems more probable than some of the other wacky suggestions being put forward (some bloke on the radio this afternoon reckoned the Israelis had shot it down, for example).

In this case I suspect we'll be subjected to more than the usual number of conspiracy theories, just because of the nations involved. Having been to Egypt (and I'll qualify this by saying that I like the place and particularly the people) I can easily believe that it would be a lot easier to get a bomb on board an aircraft there than it would in some other countries.

The visible passenger and luggage security procedures may well be OK, but it wouldn't surprise me at all to find that airside security was full of holes and ground staff security checks were not as rigorous as they could be, given the threat level. How does a country that has a large population who have some sympathy for the beliefs and ideals of IS manage to stop extremists from working airside?

If we are putting forward speculative ideas, then my money is on a device that was put on to the aircraft from someone working at SSH, rather than in a passengers baggage. As other aircraft explosions have sadly shown, it doesn't take a very large bomb to cause catastrophic airframe failure, especially at high altitude.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 16:53
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I must admit that I follow the thread continuously. I like the speculation of qualified and unqualified people and try to make my own mind up. It's like sitting in the pub or club room listening to the general chatter and occasionally putting in ones own three-penneth.

What gets my piss are the people who every now and again post that the thread aught to be closed because 'non qualified' people are posting rubbish. One assumes that only their opinion is worth listening to.

I like detective novels and, quite frankly, whenever we have an air accident that section of PPRuNe becomes a must read.

I would suggest that there are very few here who do not have some interest in aviation.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 17:31
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Agree 100% Funfly. Jet Blast is not, and must never be allowed to become like R & N.

Post something there, and unless you are a sky god (definition - 1st officer with c 1000 hours total) you will be shouted down
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 18:07
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Has Farage blamed the SNP yet?
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 19:08
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If he hasn't I will.
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 20:08
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"Post something there, and unless you are a sky god (definition - 1st officer with c 1000 hours total) you will be shouted down"

I have posted several links from BBC&CNN and other western MSM and just copypasted a few paragraphs from those.

Got deleted promptly, maybe the source wasn't reliable enough for saint R&N moderators
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Old 7th Nov 2015, 22:47
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Stop speculating. The investigation is in the hands of the experts.

Experts from Egypt, Russia, France and Ireland

The Russians don't want their people to think that they are vulnerable
The Egyptians don't want their airport security to be exposed
The French don't want anyone to think their aeroplanes might fall apart

Which leaves the Irish (the aircraft was on their register). They have no axe to grind. I am inclined to believe whatever they say, except that - rather sensibly - they aren't saying anything.
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 07:48
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I would be casting a beady eye toward a organisation headquartered in Langley Virginia.
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You mean ... the Illuminati??!!! Good God, man, tell us more!!!!!
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Egyptian credibility?

If you speak to the daughter it's not just uncle, it's also grandpa.

I'm sure Vladimir and co will dish out the appropriate retribution.
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I would be casting a beady eye toward a organisation headquartered in Langley Virginia.
Whoops, you've done it now, Tony. They will be casting a beady idea towards a large city in the NE of England now!
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Old 8th Nov 2015, 12:30
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I wouldn't even rule out Mr Putin if there was someone on board he wanted eliminated.
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