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The car cleaner drove my car through a wall

Old 10th Oct 2015, 18:06
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I find it hard to believe that an experienced (?) valeter had never driven a vehicle with an auto box!
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Old 10th Oct 2015, 19:55
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I rarely drive an auto. When I have done a couple of times I have anticipated the change up and depressed the clutch as if I driving a manual. It's quite an exhilarating experience.
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 15:25
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Blues&twos........"In the UK if the public have access to the area you're driving on (eg supermarket car park) the driver must still be insured."

So, the valeting company (I presume) would have a block insurance policy for valeting staff to manoeuvre/drive vehicles and ensure the staff have a valid driving licence obtained in the EU?
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 16:36
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If you are driving an automatic for the first time or after a break tuck your left foot back behind your right leg. Then only one foot is available to press the pedals.
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 16:57
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Through the Wall, About 1952

Along about 1952 a new-car dealer in Cambridge, Massachusetts, received a batch of new cars on a car-carrier. They were destined to be stored on the flat roof on the dealer's building. There was a 90-degree turn part-way up to the roof.

Things went well for the first few cars. Then the driver got in another new car, gunned the engine and went straight through the wall instead of making the 90-degree turn. Neither the car nor the unlucky driver survived.

The new car didn't have any hydraulic brake fluid - thus no braking action.
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Old 11th Oct 2015, 17:59
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Dazdaz, yes, that's how it should be arranged to be legal.
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Old 12th Oct 2015, 23:23
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The site is private land. It was my small workshop and I offered the space for him to use after the car wash 'washed' he could put it into the workshop to be detailed (polished etc)
Now I left him the keys because his brochure states quite clearly "FULLY INSURED"
Now, maybe i'm just naive but when I read the brochure and it stated the above, I took it that I was safe to leave my keys with him to carry out the planned work.
Because I gave him my key, he cant be done for stealing the car. His 'Insurance' was Public Liability covering him for paint damage in line with his business of car preparation. NOT MOTOR CLAIMS.
My insurance company asked if id driven the car through the wall but I obviously stated no because the lad said dont worry im fully insured and it'll all be taken care of.
Unfortunately he didnt realise he still needed a Motor Policy to cover driving risks.
He didnt have this. If he had, the repairs would have been covered under his insurance. My insurance company said because id given him the key then they wouldnt cover it as he wasnt a named driver on my policy.

We both learned a bit that day. Dont believe everything you read on a brochure. DOnt assume your insurance covers everything. Do have a dashcam that is ignition activated and remove it from the car immediately after any incident.

The wall is rebuilt and the car is fully repaired and yes, he's paid for it all out of his own pocket. An expensive experience.

If you're leaving your car with car cleaners in a supermarket car park, the guys moving your vehicle MOST DEFINITELY DO need to be covered under a MOTOR POLICY otherwise any damage WILL NOT be covered, regardless of it being private land.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 00:09
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The point being, if this valliter pranged my car (and most of them do not have a good command of English) while driving my vehicle, where do I stand for compensation?
If they didn't have insurance in place that covered your vehicle or your policy didn't cover them, then compensation might be the least of your worries.
Allowing someone to drive an uninsured vehicle on a road or other public place is an offence under the Road traffic act, and as others have already pointed out, a supermarket car park classes as a public place under UK legislation.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 00:18
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The Rivetess drove me back from hospital in Colchester today. I noticed she used left foot braking in my Steptronic thingie. I have no recollection of her swapping when in autos, but it was probably back in our Mk10 Jag days. They were the first autos she drove, while I got in the habit of doing it c 1960, in an Olds 88. And changing gear.

Well, I had to say it first.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 00:55
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FED (your #24),

A similar idea, when driving an autobox for the first time, or after a while with "Four (or five or six) on the Floor", is to have a loose loop of stout string anchored to the seat frame, in which you put your left foot before you start.

As you have it short enough to stop reaching the brake pedal, it can save you from a whack on the head (as I got , when shunting in a car park, so no seat belt !)

Another no-no, it seems, is to wait till advanced age before going "auto" (you read such horror stories). I went over to two-pedal at the age of 40 (why buy dog and bark self ?) and never regretted it.

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Old 13th Oct 2015, 02:05
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Reminds me of MsVFD1. I came home from work to find she had driven through the garage back wall into the house.
I asked her how in the He double hockey sticks did you manage to get the car into the living room?
Easy she says just turn left at the kitchen.

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Old 13th Oct 2015, 08:09
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I hired a vehicle over the weekend for Uffers Jnrs wedding and to take the happy couple to LHR.
I asked for an auto as we're getting a Mercedes auto in a few weeks time so wanted a bit of auto time. The car was a Seat Alhambra and it was a pleasure to drive, and I just kept my left foot on the foot rest and no problems.

BTW. After all the kerfuffle regarding the lack of paper license, the hire company just checked my card and didn't even ask for the additional ID I had printed out.
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 08:38
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Originally Posted by onetrack
I'd be initiating a major complaint to the builder of that wall, if a Range Rover Sport could knock it down so easily! That's pathetic!

A properly-built wall would see the Range Rover crumple up and the airbags deploy!
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 15:16
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Hempy, I reckon the same bloke that built the garage, must have built the crash test walls!
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Old 13th Oct 2015, 15:29
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This all reminds me of the story of the unpopular professor at the University of Manchester who had a similar garage in which he knew to stop when the tennis ball suspended by a cord from overhead just touched the windscreen. Up to, but not including, the night some students moved the cord two feet forward with the predictable end result.....

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Old 13th Oct 2015, 20:08
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A very similar thing happened to a car that I had driven. I'd collected a customer manual 911 for servicing and had a awful drive around the M25 in it. The reason?, it had been valeted and whilst it looked showroom+, all the inside, leather, controls, dash, door trim, had been cleaned to excess using a silicon product. It was like driving an eel.

Car was serviced, engineer made comments about the slipperiness of vehicle and that it was bordering on dangerous, hands, feet, bum, all sliding around under normal driving. I was tasked with returning it, which I did, and it was the only car I've driven bare foot, to get any purchase on the pedals.

Customer was ever so surprised walking out of his abode to see an ashen faced js putting his shoes and socks on. A short but firmly polite discussion took place, including handing over the invoice/engineers report which made the same comments regarding the cleaning/safety. Mr Customer took the keys and documents and stalked back into the house, basically saying we were 'not very good', and that he'd take his custom elsewhere, he's never had any problems before.

He didn't have any problems driving it, but his poor missus did. Her feet slipped on the pedals whilst garaging it, and it too punched its way through the fridge freezer and garage wall into the back garden. She apparently was alright, the car was totalled. We never heard from him again, but we did hear from the recovery driver who went to dig it out of the azalias.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 20:03
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so i was lucky then. car all repaired and fit for purpose again. and paid for.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 21:55
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An engineer I worked with, possibly the worst driver I've ever ridden with, drove his work car through the wall of the garage of his work-supplied house after a work Christmas party.
Fact is, he was a teetotaller and never touched alcohol, but after a night on the lemonade, he may as well have been drinking spirits all night.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 22:43
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Some years ago my wife rang me at work to tell me she had put my car in the garage. I thought she meant she had cleared the packing cases out of the garage (we had moved in a few months before).

Unfortunately, she had not cleared the packing cases.

Even worse, she hadn't opened the door, either. What used to be an "up and over" door was now an "up and under". She folded it neatly over the car roof and doors so she had to get the kids out throgh the tailgate.
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Old 18th Oct 2015, 03:32
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This is going back plenty of decades - but the Model T Ford with its brake-band-operated epicyclic transmission, caught out many an owner, by unexpectedly taking off on cold mornings, when being started by hand-cranking (Model T's had no electric starter, anyway).

This was because the transmission bands would tighten in cold weather and unexpectedly engage forward gear - even though the transmission was set as disengaged.

If the car was in a garage, when the engine fired up (which they did relatively easily, when in good shape and all the engine controls were set properly), the owner would often be pinned to the garage wall by the Model T - or in a worst-case scenario, even be driven through a flimsy wall by the Ford!
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