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Why do the media insist he's British?

Old 25th Sep 2015, 19:39
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Why do the media insist he's British?

I read today that Guantamo resident Shakaar Aamanar is being released and, lucky old us, we are getting him in UK.

The media insist in calling him 'Briton' last 'British' resident of Gitmo etc.

Well first off he is a Saudi citizen. He lived in London before setting off on his terrorist trip but he has no claim to British citizenship.

How long after arriving, no doubt in a Citation, courtesy of the British tax payer, will he be making his multi million pound compo claim ?

Even the less than 'leftie' Daily Mail has run a campaign to 'free the last remaining Briton' what is the game?
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 19:48
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Every time I hear the Beeb referring to a "British Citizen" I think it's a pretty safe bet that most would think otherwise.
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 20:32
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No doubt we will be hearing his name again,
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 20:40
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The same reason they call this guy British. A fine old Saxon name. Since he's not working, no doubt his welfare claims covered the cost of his holiday......

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/201...ix-formula-one

A British man who walked across the track during the Singapore Grand Prix has been charged for the rash act that marred Sunday’s race and caused the safety car to be deployed.

The Straits Times reported that the 27-year-old, named as Yogvitam Pravin Dhokia, appeared in court on Tuesday and was offered bail of 15,000 Singapore dollars (6,800).

The paper reported that the Briton told the judge he could not afford the bail as he is not working. He will next appear in court on 6 October. The offence could carry a maximum prison term of six months, local
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 20:43
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Is the predator being readied for flight?
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 20:48
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Who knows, hopefully.
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Old 25th Sep 2015, 20:49
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Yogvitam Pravin Dhokia........ Sounds like a Yorkshireman to me.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 07:35
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What's the betting that when he returns to his home( is that in the Sandpit area) or is it GB,? he will set about with one of these Blood sucker solicitor companies and start a law Suite against the British Government who it seem's to keep saying he is British, sadly for those outside of the Sovereign area of Great Britain I have to say this guy is NOT BRITISH BY BIRTH read his history, he was once a bag man for Bin Laden...so therefore an enemy of the civilised states and other countries,........

how doe's he qualify to be a British Person.???
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 08:37
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how doe's he qualify to be a British Person.???
British passport by marriage.
He arrived in the UK in 1996 and by 1997 he had met and married a British citizen, (he certainly didn't waste much time) hence he had the right to become a British citizen.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 09:09
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The worrying thing about this thread is that you are bellyaching about the guy's origins whereas 13 years of detention without trial (what charges were brought, any?), torture and mental abuse appear to concern you not a jot.

Staggering.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 09:37
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Angels, that is in fact the point, held for 14 years without charge being laid!!
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 09:40
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Why do the media insist he's British?
Because, as usual, the media don't know their @rses from their elbows. (They've a lazy bunch who spend all their time sitting their elbows...)
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 10:06
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At least the well known right wing paper got it correct- he was a British resident with a British wife who had been applying for citizenship when captured. Wait a minute- it's the Guardian saying that so it can't be right! An unscientific sample of 1 Radio 5 news report last night said the same thing- sorry for any inconvenience caused.

As Angels rightly says - why is the fact that he was held so long without charge not raising a stink? You would think that a few alarm bells would have rung in one of the most sophisticated countries in the world about the way he was captured. Gang of Afghan bounty hunters rock up at Bagram with a prisoner. 'Ere guv is it right that you'll give us a huge wedge of dollars if we tell you this guy has Al Qaeda connections? Yes? OK then- this guy has Al Qaeda connections. Thanks for the cash!
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 10:11
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The worrying thing about this thread is that you are bellyaching about the guy's origins whereas 13 years of detention without trial (what charges were brought, any?), torture and mental abuse appear to concern you not a jot.

That's nothing to do with the title of the thread is it?

Why did the Saudi authorities not campaign for the return of their citizen?

I have lived in Spain but I'm not 'Spanish' and if I was incarcerated somewhere would not expect Spain to work for my release. I wouldn't be referred to as Spanish either!

I'm staggered as well
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 10:14
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What citizenship does he hold? Isn't it that country that should have been putting in all the diplomatic efforts? Why does Britain put diplomatic effort into people who are not British citizens? This simply increases the opportunities for all those legal vultures to treat our taxes as carrion.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 10:25
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Trossie.
What citizenship does he hold? Isn't it that country that should have been putting in all the diplomatic efforts? Why does Britain put diplomatic effort into people who are not British citizens?
He is a British citizen. His citizenship was granted after his detention.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 10:26
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As has been said before, "My cat was born in a stable. That doesn't make it a horse!"
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 12:13
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As has been said before, "My cat was born in a stable. That doesn't make it a horse!"
The EU policymakers would disagree with that statement.
Despite having whiskers and a purr, if it stated horse on their passport, there is no way that they would ever allow it to be anything other than a horse and anyone who dared to refer to it as a cat would probably be prosecuted for racial crimes.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 14:18
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Just on a point of pedantry, the term is UK citizen, not British citizen.
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Old 26th Sep 2015, 14:26
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Just on a point of pedantry, the term is UK citizen, not British citizen.
The British government would disagree with you on that point.
https://www.gov.uk/becoming-a-british-citizen

And if you qualify for one, your passport clearly states "British Citizen"
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