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Old 19th Sep 2015, 08:49
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Calling all Kiwis and rugby lovers

This could get ugly:


Matt Dawson: the great 'Hakarena' irritant who will never be truly important enough to hate - Telegraph
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 09:44
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This could get ugly
Too late. Dawson is already fugly.

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Old 19th Sep 2015, 12:18
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And, somehow, life carries on...
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Old 19th Sep 2015, 12:33
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I'm not sure what the point of that article is,except to allow Jonathan Liew to tell us that he dislikes Matt Dawson and Rugby.

I met Matt Dawson this week, very nice guy, quite amusing, gave a great talk on our staff training session and very interesting to listen to. Friendly, approachable and a winner in his chosen sport.

Conversely I have no idea who the apparently bitter Jonathan Liew actually is....
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When will it all be over - and we can resume normal reception on the telly ? ( not that the content will be much better, but it won't be so repetitive.) and yes, I do live in Kiwi land - we even have All Blacks postage stamps at the moment, stuff the Monarchy.
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Old 20th Sep 2015, 08:40
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we even have All Blacks postage stamps at the moment
Do they cost a penny?

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Oh I remember now. He's the non-entity that Corne Krige sat flat once.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 17:06
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I note that the OP got it right. Kiwis.............and rugby lovers.

Two entirely different groups. The All blacks might be quite a good side, once they stop cheating. I hope the TMOs are awake when the kiwis play.
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Old 21st Sep 2015, 23:51
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Do they cost a penny?
Nope, $2.50 NZ approx 1.25 UK. ( i.e. the International rate to UK )

Send me 10,000 quid and I'll post you a letter with one on.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 02:16
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Ho hum another RWC, another haka related drama from the English. I appreciate it's 99% newspapers trying to generate some clickbait but still, it's a pretty sad way to try and stir up some English support, when this is the biggest news story, it's such a negative message. It's like, we have nothing to celebrate about our own rugby culture so let's take the piss out of someone else's.

You never see it from other passionate rugby nations like the Welsh or the South Africans, they love the haka as much as we kiwis do.

Yes, I appreciate that the English more than most have to put up with the sight of drunken kiwi backpackers at the Walkabout bar in Acton doing 5 hakas an hour every Friday night. Too bad, it's what we do.

Seriously though, wouldn't it be great if they could develop some strong rugby identity and imagery of their own for the fans to latch on to and support. You have the potential, look at English soccer fans, they're more tribal and aggressive than any maoris

Yes the modern All Black haka is a branding exercise but by god it's one of the best in the world. You lot need something similar. You won't get the country to latch onto your sport and support it en masse, when the best you can come up with, consists of ripping off a black american slave song and stupid youtube pisstakes of someone else's maori war dance.
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pisstakes of someone else's maori war dance.
Is your post supposed to be ironic humour. War "Dance" lol lol lol.
At least we know that Morris dancing is naff.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 10:39
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I didn't see it as taking the piss out of the haka - more as the English taking the piss out of themselves (one of our finest attributes) - kind of "what the haka would look like if done by the Engand team".

Maybe I'm crediting them with too much subtlety.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 11:34
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Seriously though, wouldn't it be great if they could develop some strong rugby identity and imagery of their own for the fans to latch on to and support. You have the potential, look at English soccer fans, they're more tribal and aggressive than any maoris
Got one thanks, we rugby fans are proud of our game, our teams and our support. Ever heard the Shed in full voice? Oh, and Please don't include any reference to soccer fans when discussing England Rugby

Yes the modern All Black haka is a branding exercise but by god it's one of the best in the world.
Branding exercise? Hardly something to be proud of, or precious about.

when the best you can come up with, consists of ripping off a black american slave song and stupid youtube pisstakes of someone else's maori war dance.
Swing low wasn't a branding exercise, it started at a particular game and has been adopted ever since. To hear it sung by a full stadium make the hair on the back of your neck stand up. To hear it used to drown out your "branding exercise" is simply amazing.
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Old 22nd Sep 2015, 23:36
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Swing low wasn't a branding exercise, it started at a particular game and has been adopted ever since
It's been sung at post match piss-ups for at least 50 years, and is/was usually accompanied by lewd gestures. Every time I see a Twickenham crowd singing it, I imagine a great mass conducting simulated onanism ...
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Old 23rd Sep 2015, 05:41
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In the 1950's "Swing Low Sweet Charriot" was a bawdy song sung in Drunken mode after a winning match, with everyone involved also performing the time honoured Arms and Hand, actions followed by several rude injections
of humour,!

Humour, Something that is sadly missing with the Southern Hemisphere teams, with their deliberate fouls and body damaging tackles to "Take out" the skilled Northern Hemisphere teams

Winning is only part of the game, its the skill that goes with it that is the true game of Rugby.

Just look at the Japanese, and how their skill and determination really shoved the finger up the giant arse,s of the Boks...

Skill not muscle wins every time,
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Old 24th Sep 2015, 04:03
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Between 2007-2010, the southern hemisphere had won 35 of 44 tests at an average of 79%,
2010 2012 the southern hemisphere had won 22 of 26 tests at an average of 84%
2007-2012 the southern hemisphere had won 59 of 72 tests at an average of 81%

Skill not muscle wins every time
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Old 29th Sep 2015, 04:18
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I'm not a big fan of rugby, or even of New Zealand. But, this is something.

http://youtu.be/mhCgcZ0efAA
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Skill not muscle wins every time
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