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Old 31st Aug 2015, 08:26
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Amber Room?

Some are saying the lost Russian Amber Room rooked by the sausage folks may be aboard this treasure train discovered in Poland,recon there's going to be a bit of a ding dong about who own what paintings gold treasurewise,
Dont think think afore mentioned sausage siders will be putting in a claim though,that would be being a bit cheeky.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 09:48
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It would be amazing if they did find the amber room in that train, it would cause as much of a stir as the Mona Lisa. I'm convinced there's still so much looted art and antiques that's still not been discovered yet. Or maybe I've been watching the Monument Men too much! The recent film The Woman in Gold covered this subject well with the true story of the restitution of a Gustav Klimt painting.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 10:18
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I found some amber on a train earlier this year. It is a lump the size of your fist and was in the tender of a steam loco. The coal was probably mined close to the Baltic.

Finders keepers.

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Old 31st Aug 2015, 10:36
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After it has been de-booby trapped, I would love to be among the first to see and catalog the contents of that train in the mountains of Poland.
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With all the wild speculation in the air, I daresay they will find MH370 in there as well.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 13:25
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The only 'evidence' I've seen reported is ground penetrating radar images.Even if they do find a train,I doubt whether there'll be any looted booty there at all.Yawn...
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It's all been a bit squalid of late, with the "discoverers" demanding a cut, the Russians saying it's all theirs and Jewish organisations staking a claim....and we don't even now what's down there.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 14:57
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All this about ground penetrating radar, would it be more logical in the initial search to follow the rail tracks?

Having said that, after 70+ years in a damp environment I fear oil paintings may have deteriorated beyond saving. The same with plaster work, gold plate and other perishable items/wall displays of the Amber room.

Being a past 'train spotter' I would be most interest (if true) the engine number of the loco.
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 15:16
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Originally Posted by dazdaz1
Being a past 'train spotter' I would be most interest (if true) the engine number of the loco.
Would you then 'tick it off'?

Or are you one that has to see it with your own eyes?
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 15:34
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G-CPTN..."Or are you one that has to see it with your own eyes?".....

Not really, just curious as to the loco. Heavy haul German loco's were type 4-6-2

I'm not up to speed with Polish (heavy haul) loco's of that era but I'm guessing 2-4-2 I might be wrong.
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I'm not up to speed with Polish (heavy haul) loco's of that era
Though it is Poland now, it was, at that time, Germany.
Known as the recovered lands.
It was after the Potsdam Conference that Germany was required to give up that area.

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Is this the same ground penetrating radar that found all those subterranean spitfires in crates? How many of those have we seen?
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 16:15
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Very good point Pontius But?
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Old 31st Aug 2015, 16:38
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From what I've seen of ground penetrating Radar(Time Team) it is only good for seeing a couple of feet into the ground not for detecting tunnels and railway engines under a mountain.
Perhaps it was the RAFs fault I understand they used to lurk overhead of the tunnel entrance then when a train entered the would bomb the entrance thus sealing it, they fly to tother end of the tunnel and bomb the way out,thus train truely sealed in and fecked.
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Originally Posted by Pontius View Post
Is this the same ground penetrating radar that found all those subterranean spitfires in crates? How many of those have we seen?
Or is it the one which found secret chambers under the Great Pyramid at Ghiza?
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The German heavy freight loco of the period was the 'kriegslok' (war locomotive) 2-10-0, which became Class 52 of DB, and a fair number lasted until the end of steam - not surprising since 6700 were built and some ended up in Russia, Romania, Norway, Turkey etc. At one time in Turkey, it was possible to see a kriegslok alongside a Stanier 8F! Several are preserved, including one on the Nene Valley Railway at Peterborough.

So most likely a kriegslok if there is an engine or a train...German equivalent to the Riddles Austerity 2-10-0, of which the only survivor is 'Gordon' on the Severn Valley.
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While every man and his dog is busy laying claim to everything from the Amber Room to the gold, I'll just have the loco - if that's alright with everybody else.
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But aren't the tracks into those complexes supposed to be narrow gauge?
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Might be something like this?

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