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Old 10th Sep 2015, 22:01
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15-16 years ago when I had company cars I generally chose Vauxhalls with emphasis on how fast they could go, quite a few female colleagues chose BMW 3 series basic model.

One really happy one day that she had actually passed someone on the road (a milk float!!!!!!......I kid you not ).

Another colleague leaving work used to stuggle up tiny slope out of work to traffic lights, she said brand had seduced her despite her husbands comments.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 22:07
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I bought a new BM three years ago after 40 years of driving various other makes. I was after a new car and test drove various other types when I saw a BM that was an ex Olympic car (I didn't know but apparently they were 'The Car' of the London Olympics) and had two thousand on the clock, registered to BM and two months old. It was listed at 34.5K new with the options it had and I haggled them down to 21.7K. BM had a glut of post Olympic cars at the time that they needed to shift. Bit of a billy bargain I thought and it's an excellent car, 320D by the way.

In 40 years of driving various saloons quite safely and without accident, I've never owned a car which seems to attract the idiot element as much as this one. I drive it in exactly the same manner as all of my other cars, none of which ever attracted any attention; but for some reason the very sight of it makes some drivers want to show me how much faster their cars are. It's a fascinating insight into the human mind. A particular shape or badge triggers an emotional response. Were I driving another shape with another badge it wouldn't trigger a response. Same driver driving in exactly the same way. You only have to look at some of the replies in this thread to wonder at the human condition.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 22:36
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It used to be fun when I was younger and in possession of an XR2 which would piss all over the BMW 316/318. The drivers never could quite grasp that my power-to-weight ratio was better than theirs.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 22:46
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How do you know they were racing you? Maybe they just saw another boy racer and wisely let you get as far away as possible.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 00:21
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Back in the day when I used to ride a bike in the UK, the object of hatred was Volvos...most of them were the boxy 240 series so they were easy to spot from far - but not when they appeared out of a side street..! To be fair the long bonnet and a bumper/grill combo which added more than a foot didn't help these drivers.

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Old 11th Sep 2015, 03:24
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It's truly amazing, the amount of rubbish people can spout!

BMWs don't handle, and have trouble passing milk floats?

We have had two Passats, and found them to be very nice as family cars. Our last one, a VR5 with AWD, finally croaked with camshaft problems at about 260 thousand kilometers, when it was replaced by a BMW 330dXi Touring.

11 liters per 100 km of Premium petrol vs. 7.5 liters per 100 km of diesel fuel?

150 hp in the larger VW vs. 245 hp in the smaller BMW? No, I haven't noticed any particular difference in performance, but why do you ask?

There's just one thing: My older BMW, a 330Ci, will do 250 km/h according to its papers, but the new one will only do 245. Yes, we are thinking of swapping it for a milk float. (In reality, unfortunately, 250 on the clock is just 235 or 230 in reality, which is soul-crushingly disappointing to someone who cares about such things. That is not me, luckily.)

My daughter just got her first car, a VW Golf VII, less than a year old, from the VW corporate fleet. It's a very nice car, with a 150-hp 2-liter turbo diesel, AWD, and a six-speed manual transmission. My daughter and I are planning a trip to Tyrolia in it around Christmas time, to go skiing, and I am looking forward to driving it.

Here in Germany, when you fit winter tires with a lower Vmax then you must put a sticker somewhere in view inside the car showing that lower speed. So the Golf came with a sticker reading "210 km/h," the limit for its winter tires. I then looked in the car papers, to find that the car itself will only reach 211! Want to bet that we would get zinged if that sticker were not in sight, with winter tires?
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 18:19
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BMWs don't handle, and have trouble passing milk floats?
Basic 3 series lowest Spec in 1990's struggled, kinda of puzzled why anybody would buy one other than to say look I have a BMW.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 19:10
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1990s....that would be the E30, E36 or E46. None of them 'struggled' in comparison to their contemporaries. I smell the strong aroma of bovine poo.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 20:23
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Originally Posted by Simplythebeast View Post
1990s....that would be the E30, E36 or E46. None of them 'struggled' in comparison to their contemporaries. I smell the strong aroma of bovine poo.
316i struggled against pretty much everything, it was underpowered.

Now have driven some of the bigger models in which didn't suffer anything like that but the 316i was a dog in terms of performance.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 20:37
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Give us a break, racedo! You drove the base-model BMW and found it a bit underpowered, did you?

The 316i had 99 DIN horsepower, so that one has to ask, "What were you comparing it to?" or perhaps, "What were you expecting?" I remember driving a Mercedes 250 turbo-diesel from 1983 or so, when you could time its acceleration with a calendar, but it was still a very nice car for all of that.

We used to have a 318i with a catalytic converter, and that only had about 103 DIN horsepower. It was no ball of fire, but it was a very pleasant little car that would still top 100 mph with no trouble at all.

One problem you might suffer from is that you really can't use all of the performance of a typical modern BMW anywhere but Germany. If you had spent some time cruising at over 100 mph, then you might understand the curious appeal of these cars with the blue-white badges. It's not all image, not at all, so that you are just spouting rubbish here, merely seeming to be envious of those who can afford to own and drive BMWs. Get over that.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 20:56
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Give us a break, racedo! You drove the base-model BMW and found it a bit underpowered, did you?
Nope I avoided it like the plague, colleagues bought into the brand, I was driving a Astra 1.8GSi and then 2.5 Vectra and still don't know how I avoided speeding tickets.



The 316i had 99 DIN horsepower, so that one has to ask, "What were you comparing it to?" or perhaps, "What were you expecting?" I remember driving a Mercedes 250 turbo-diesel from 1983 or so, when you could time its acceleration with a calendar, but it was still a very nice car for all of that.

We used to have a 318i with a catalytic converter, and that only had about 103 DIN horsepower. It was no ball of fire, but it was a very pleasant little car that would still top 100 mph with no trouble at all.

One problem you might suffer from is that you really can't use all of the performance of a typical modern BMW anywhere but Germany. If you had spent some time cruising at over 100 mph, then you might understand the curious appeal of these cars with the blue-white badges. It's not all image, not at all, so that you are just spouting rubbish here, merely seeming to be envious of those who can afford to own and drive BMWs. Get over that.
Not arguing that BMWs aren't nice, I like them because they are reliable and good at the top and middle end but they produced at the lower end.

It sucked people into buying the brand, oh and got them to pay 50 to keep the actual model off the car as well.

Someone people had the idea that having a BMW (no matter how basic) showed they had made it................ remember you are taking UK public here not German so perceptions are completely different.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 21:12
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I've owned 2 BMWs in my time, well, 3 if you count the Mini as well. Best cars I've ever had, and if the tax system in my current abode wasn't so ridiculous I'd be driving one now.

My first was a 2002 320d, a fantastic driving machine with great looks and a gem of an engine. Second was a 2008 530d with all the bells and whistles, and it was truly amazing. Quite, comfy and fast on the motorway, exceedingly capable and entertaining when pushed on a quiet country road. There's a lot to be said about a car which will happily hum along all day at 3000 rpm, whilst doing just under 210 kmh on the speedo. It brought me back in time to say goodbye to my dad, by dispensing with 900km in just over 6 hours. I put close to 100K on that car in 3 years, having bought it used with 40000 km and 2 years on the clock, and it required nothing but scheduled maintenance and replacement of worn down parts (brake pads, front rotor discs). Same with the 320d and the Mini; never put a foot wrong.

But I appreciate most here are talking about the UK, a nation which seem to be descending rapidly into general plonkerism.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 22:04
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There's a lot to be said about a car which will happily hum along all day at 3000 rpm, whilst doing just under 210 kmh on the speedo.
At 3000 rpm mine would be doing 120mph in top...it pootles along at 70 on the motorway at an engine busting 1750 rpm, doing around 62-64 mpg.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 22:16
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I think it was "The Firm" that featured Tom Cruise as a young lawyer given a too-good-to-believe deal from a law firm that turned out to be a gang of crims. Part of the deal was a BMW .... Wowie Zowie!

So in the next scene Xenu's special friend Bignose rocks up in a 3-series, nothing special in German terms, especially with those US-spec bumpers. I guess in the States that was a big deal at the time, but I was expecting, I don't know, maybe a 3.0 CS, something really nice.

Someone who would choose a Vectra over a BMW ... says it all, really. In the States, "Vectra" is a brand of cheap, nasty, all-weather carpet, and I think that's where they got the name. I drove a few Vectras during my time in the UK. Urgh.
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Old 11th Sep 2015, 23:44
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I used to drive an early E30 1.8i. It was almost 15 years old, just a banger and cost me just under a grand. But it went well and handled like a proper car should. Then I changed jobs. The new company insisted I took one of their Vectras as a company car. I didn't want it, but it was part of the job requirement. It handled like a pig in a bathtub. It would easily lift the inside rear wheel and become totally unstable on corners that the old Beemer would sail round. The company later changed its policy and gave us a car allowance instead. I immediately went out and bought another second hand BMW.

I'm on my fourth one now and vowed never to buy a Vauxhall. I haven't, and never will. I think Vauxhalls are for drivers who just can't appreciate a car that handles properly.

As for performance, my present one accelerates from 0-60 mph in six seconds and is electronically limited to 155 mph. It would easily get there, and beyond. Quick enough for me.
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 05:50
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Someone who would choose a Vectra over a BMW ... says it all, really. In the States, "Vectra" is a brand of cheap, nasty, all-weather carpet, and I think that's where they got the name. I drove a few Vectras during my time in the UK. Urgh.
Because a name means something in one country is really relevant when choosing a car 18 years ago......right

2.5 L top of range Vectra V basic 316 BMW yup a hard choice but as was doing 30k miles a year I guess it was an easy choice, though a colleague did actually get 67 miles out of his first new Vectra before gear box collapsed.
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 08:39
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Why did they choose "Vectra"?

Well, Tatra was already spoken for!

Racedo, if it's not a secret, what do you drive now? Car, I mean, not a Reliant Robin or something like that; that wouldn't count.
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 09:02
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Well, Tatra was already spoken for!
From Wikiipedia.

After the 1938 invasion of Czechoslovakia by Nazi Germany, Tatras continued in production, largely because Germans liked the cars. Many German officers met their deaths driving heavy, rear-engined Tatras faster around corners than they could handle. At the time, as an anec***e, Tatra became known as the 'Czech Secret Weapon' for the scores of officers who died behind the wheel; at one point official orders were issued forbidding German officers from driving Tatras.
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 10:13
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It was where Professor Porsche got the idea for the original Beetle: Unit body; Rear-mounted, air-cooled engine for a built-in rearward weight bias; Swing axles to add to the fun when the whole plot went inevitably sideways. Sorted!

I was just thinking Tat-rah. Why is nobody laughing? It's brilliant!
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Old 12th Sep 2015, 20:25
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Have not driven a BMW for many years but i found the floor hinged accelerator caused me a lot of discomfort in my right ankle on even the shortest journeys.

There is also the perception (in the uk anyway) that BMW/AUDI & VW drivers
drive like idiots which is not true - some do but idiots drive any car model.
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