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Where does the UN imagine all these people are going to go?

Old 14th Oct 2015, 11:57
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I think Churchill was a noted federalist and saw a United States of Europe as being a way to prevent further wars.

I don't think he wouldn't have envisaged what we have today though.
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 14:15
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Old 14th Oct 2015, 14:37
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Bit puzzled over the claims that this is all being perpetrated by left wing politicians when with the exception of France (as is usually the case) all the politicians in power at the moment involved seem to be conservative-bit of selective narrative there I think.
The left are conservatives. They're trying to conserve the post-war 'progressive' establishment they created, which is no longer fit for purpose (and probably never was).

They are 'the man' these days. The right are the radicals who want to stick it to the man.
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Old 15th Oct 2015, 05:18
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An internal memo to SNCF staff has said that free travel can be given to large group of travellers who board the French trains without tickets. This means that mobs of asylum seekers can now travel across France at taxpayers expense if they turn up mob handed!
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Old 15th Oct 2015, 20:48
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Merkel says EU must secure external borders but rejects criticism of open-door refugee policy.

All EU countries must be prepared to send security staff to the bloc's external borders, German Chancellor Angela Merkel has said.

She described the current situation as "very disorderly".
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Old 15th Oct 2015, 21:02
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An internal memo to SNCF staff has said that free travel can be given to large group of travellers who board the French trains without tickets. This means that mobs of asylum seekers can now travel across France at taxpayers expense if they turn up mob handed!
I have friends currently enjoying a holiday in Europe, for which they're paying top dollar/euro. I can just imagine how they'd react to their first class cabin in a train being overrun by 'asylum seekers' who don't have tickets.

Tourism has been one of Europe's top earners over the last 50 years, if not more (with a couple of short interludes where - [like today?] - some of the larger 'organised foreign tour groups' were perhaps not quite so welcome), but I can see the tourists staying away in their tens of thousands if all they're going to see at each tourist hot spot is a succession of young African men aggressively selling fake sunglasses and 'designer' handbags from blankets spread out on the street.

Oh, wait a minute... that's what Paris was like last time I visited the place ten years ago.

What's it going to be like ten years from now?

Someone beat me to mentioning this some weeks ago, but not too far into the future, I can see some crazies attempting to put a bomb on the Pieta or even the whole of St Peter's or Notre Dame because the Christian symbolism offends them. Or maybe we'll be spared the destruction if sanity prevails and all they do is stick minarets on 'em and whitewash over all the Christian art as they did at Ayea Sofia in Istanbul.
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 05:19
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Wow ...That is some document, so it seems Herr Merkal is after the edition two of this outrageous utopian type of mass integration of races...

Bugger !!, the draw bridge needs seriously strengthening and quick!
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 06:07
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I have friends currently enjoying a holiday in Europe, for which they're paying top dollar/euro. I can just imagine how they'd react to their first class cabin in a train being overrun by 'asylum seekers' who don't have tickets.


They could probably write a jolly strongly worded letter to the Times / Toryraph or Mail....

There again, just how many rail journeys are they making, exactly?.....given the chances of their holiday encounters are probably nil anyway.

That said, it comes as no surprise to read that you feel having money should, in some way, exclude people from the reality of those who have very little and are enduring considerably more hardship and deprivation than the rigours of a first class rail compartment could offer.....
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 07:06
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It doesn't really matter whether they encounter them or not. The perception is likely to be enough to cause people to think twice about tourist visits. With consequent effects on the industry.
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 10:31
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Well I was wrong by a couple of weeks. I thought the shooting would start about the beginning of October.
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 11:20
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That said, it comes as no surprise to read that you feel having money should, in some way, exclude people from the reality of those who have very little and are enduring considerably more hardship and deprivation than the rigours of a first class rail compartment could offer.....
It is not just about having money Krystal, it is about value for money, for all you know this may be a pensioner couple spending their savings of a lifetime on their dream trip, having saved and suffered hardship all their life, you can't imagine that, can you Krystal? For you it always has to be the so called, 'privileged rich' versus the downtrodden.

Try doing a Google search for,"Deep Seated Chip Removal Specialists", it might just improve your sad, sad life.
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Old 16th Oct 2015, 12:16
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Where does the UN imagine all these people are going to go?

Where does the UN imagine all these people are going to go?


Mr Corbyn has invited them all round to his place. Tufnell Park, North London. Lots of room.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 04:37
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If this is true it might prove interesting.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 09:28
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The numbers are starting to ramp up since Merkel upend the door - and once you have family and kin already there, many otherwise hesitant will decide to move. Relying on Turkey to stop them them seems a joke....

Torygraph: Turkey ridicules offer of EU membership in exchange for halting refugee influx

Turkey has brushed off the offer of EU membership in exchange for halting the refugee influx as “bribery”, hours after European leaders sought to buy the country’s co-operation at a price of £2.2 billion.

Recep Tayyip Erdogan, the man Europe hopes can hold back a vast new wave of migrants, ridiculed an offer of visas, cash and a fresh chapter of accession talks drawn up by European leaders last night. If Brussels wants his co-operation, nothing less than full EU membership will do, the president said, adding that the offer did not appear to be “sincere”. “The West and Europe's security and stability is contingent on our security and stability. They have accepted this now. So if it can't happen without Turkey, why don't you take Turkey into the EU? The problem is clear but they are not open,” he said........

European leaders made no effort to conceal that the deal reflects hard-headed Realpolitik, offering sweeteners and large sums of cash in order to halt what the deal text calls a “massive influx” of refugees. “An agreement with Turkey makes sense only if it effectively contains the flow of refugees,” said Donald Tusk, the European Council president, in the early hours of Friday as the summit wrapped up.

Despite criticism from liberal sources that the EU was “outsourcing” its border policy to an increasingly authoritarian neighbour, there is growing urgency in Brussels to get a deal in place before the deteriorating Syrian civil war precipitates a new wave of refugees. Already some 350,000 people have attempted to cross from Turkey to Greece since September, with just 50,000 stopped by the Turkish police........

However despite European desire for a deal, it is unclear whether Mr Erdogan could even implement the Turkish side of the bargain as he faces a crucial parliamentary election on November 1st where his AKP party is trying to regain its majority. Polls show a majority of Turkish public opinion is now against allowing Syrian refugees to settle in Turkey.

The deal will also face hurdles in Europe where Francois Hollande, the French president, warned that any offer to grant Schengen-area visas to millions of Turkish businessmen and students must come with strings attached.
“Liberalisation of visas with Turkey should be on extremely specific, controlled terms,” said Mr Hollande, hinting at disquiet in some European capitals at the security implications of liberalising the visa regime with Turkey.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 10:32
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village of 100 will face 1000 refugees to be "integrated"

On Friday 16th October, the German BILD (a sort-of newspaper!?!) had a full page spread about a meeting to “advise”, from the (Queen of Europe’s) Merkel Govt. to the locals.

You can find BILD, easily for the original script, but here’s a summary, translated by my rough self into English for those who can’t get to grips with German.


Dr Alexander Goetz (suit & tie brigade), from the “Interior Ministry” met a village hall full of normal residents posing questions about their influx of “migrants”.

In a village of x100 inhabitants, it is quite remarkable that the meeting was attended by x800 visitors, along with folk from neighbouring villages.
The hall was fuller than a pig’s head, so some had to take standing space outside and view through the windows.
Lucky it wasn’t raining . . .


The village of “Sumte” (in Niedersachsen) has only x100 inhabitants, but is expected to accept 1000 migrants . . .


There is, since 2012, an unused office block on the edge of “town”. This is a new building, looks like two rows of large bungalows set up in a row. (Perhaps 100 or 200 folks may have been working there at some time?)

Now, apparently, approx 1000 people should live there, but “this is only for the short-term”, said Dr Goetz, and “the newcomers will not be confined to quarters (at all): we will not lock them in”.



A protestor (terrorist/freedom fighter, call it what you will), with an anorak, looking very worn from a hard days labour said;

“There is no supermarket anywhere near here. The infrastructure, especially the water/sewage systems can manage 100 folk, but probably not, 1100”.

[Has anybody thought about these consequences?]

and further;
“We need a 24/hour hot-call-line, and police must arrive pretty sharpish, in case something happens”.
[Hard to believe that one squad car arriving will quell any disturbances].

The answer to above questions from Dr Goetz:
“We’ll see how it goes, and improve as and when necessary”.

[Well, OK, that’s fine, until you or, someone you know, becomes a victim. The answer then would be “sorry”. But the damage will have been done].

The point was also raised to Grit Richter (the town‘s “mayoress”):
“Could we please have our street lamps re-lit please? It has been very dark out there, when it’s dark outside, and you turned the lights off to make a saving (as you previously informed us)”.


BTW:
Earlier in the week, PEGIDA had a “protest march” with 8 or 9 thousand protestors (October 13th). They had two model gallows on display: reserved for Queen Merkel & sidekick Gabriel (the opposition leader).
The public prosecutor filed a charge of “disturbing the peace”, or something like that.
Apparently, the public prosecutor has since received an email death threat.
Investigations are ongoing.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 14:27
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Europe could stop 90% of the refugee inflow overnight simply by cancelling all welfare and housing for new arrivals. Whether they have the intestinal fortitude to do so is the question.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 14:48
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Eurpoe won't. They will accept millions and provide them all with welfare. They gave started to throw out there own citizens from their own houses to house invaders.

Something is very wrong.
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Old 17th Oct 2015, 14:50
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A leading candidate for Sundays mayoral election in Cologne has been stabbed in the neck by someone who appears to be protesting against immigration. A number of others were seriously injured while subduing the attacker.
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