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Old 9th Sep 2015, 09:59
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Probably be a few Policmen killed first that's what the polies do now, sit on their fat sleazy cowardly arses and leave the Police to deal with the problems they cause.
We need to get a bit more Russian than Salvation Army,I'm begining to think the only hope for Europe is a rise of the extreme right,the fluffy right will be of no use.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 10:34
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I'm begining to think the only hope for Europe is a rise of the extreme right,the fluffy right will be of no use.
I doubt it will be exclusively the far right who will be the core of the backlash, although they may instigate it. People of all backgrounds are seeing their culture, lives and peace disrupted by a cult that is dedicated to overthrowing their society, aided and abbeted by politicians who have ignored their wishes. Ordinary people, regardless of political stance, will be labeled fascist by the left and their fellow travellers and unless something is done quickly to stem this tide it could get very ugly.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 10:41
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Small correction Sitig, it is going to get ugly, it's only a matter of time.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 11:53
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Don’t make a moral melodrama out of the migrant crisis



...................It isn’t only virtue signalling we’re witnessing; it’s moral differentiation, the creation of a new dividing line between those who care about refugees (Us) and those who don’t (Them). The migrants are being marshalled to the culture wars by European observers keen to distance themselves from sections of their own societies. This is why observers talk ominously of the problem of ‘public attitudes’, by which they mean the racism, as they see it, of the masses. Why Yvette Cooper calls on the political class to avoid giving into ‘the politics of fear’ promoted by sections of the media. Why EU officials warn against the use of inflammatory rhetoric. Because in their eyes, there are good, humanitarian people who are willing to welcome refugees, and bad, fearful, isolationist people who pose a threat to refugees. They have turned refugee-friendliness into the new moral litmus test, separating the well-informed from the public and its bad ‘attitudes’.

The refugee crisis is also being used to resuscitate the moral divide between civilised Western Europe and allegedly backward Eastern Europe. The Guardian calls on Brussels to ‘counter and denounce’ Hungary for its refusal to treat refugees fairly, warning that Hungary’s anti-refugee stance ‘enjoys support among other central European governments’. The attitudes of these nations are ‘a disgrace’. Both within individual nations and across the EU, the refugee crisis has been turned into an opportunity for moral differentiation. Increasingly, being ‘pro-migrant’ is a cynical means of advertising one’s own probity through handwringing over the attitudes of one’s own native masses and the ‘disgraceful’ policies of bovine Eastern nations. Thus are migrants made into fodder for a culture war.

Most depressingly of all, the new narrative is explicitly about evading public engagement on this issue. A democratic discussion is the last thing Euro-officials want. But if Europe is to be turned into the new home for dispersed humanity, with hundreds of thousands coming here, surely publics should get to discuss it first? Seems not. After all, ‘public attitudes’ are bad. And so we have Angela Merkel, Francois Hollande and EU officials devising quotas for each EU nation, effectively instructing us on how many refugees we must take. This highly undemocratic solution to the refugee crisis shows how utterly distrusted European publics are. Indeed, through the refugee crisis EU officials are seeking to recover their moral authority, which was called into question during the Greek financial crisis of recent months, particularly their authority to impose on nations, and their publics, preordained political set-ups. The pseudo ‘open borders’ approach among European officials is not a genuinely liberal sentiment; it is the latest expression of the EU’s long-term project of weakening national and popular sovereignty and concentrating decision-making on important political matters in the hands of elites, far from ‘public attitudes’...................
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 12:52
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How many more are among those soon to arrive?

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Old 9th Sep 2015, 13:12
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Read this article in full. The politicians must be so proud of themselves. It all going so well.
Syrian refugees have made Lesbos a war zone amid fears ISIS is entering Europe | Daily Mail Online
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 13:23
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From the above Mail article:-
Refugees granted asylum in Britain are going back to the country they fled for holidays, a Tory MP claimed today.
Adam Holloway complained he had been unable to get his hair cut because his barber had returned to his home country.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 13:36
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Looks like some Kuwaiti's don't want any Syrian refugees as they think they are "psychologically disturbed."

"‎Kuwait‬ ex-Colonel & GCC official refers to ‪‎Syrian‬ refugees as 'psychologically disturbed' and says they should not be allowed into Kuwait or ‪‎GCC‬."

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=686_1441647743
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 14:02
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As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding.
Basil, do you find it bemusing that not one single politician of either major party, despite all of them having access to the highest level intel. briefings, come to the same conclusion, at least publicly? (Just in case you misunderstand my question, I too, unbriefed, come to a very similar if not exactly the same conclusion as you do.) I see many tears ahead for the citizens of the West.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 14:51
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How long before the half-wit politicians start to send planes to pick them up and save them from 'the hazardous sea journey' ?

I watched again the hysterical reporter on the beach in Lesbos spouting nonsense as dozens of young men with I-phone 6's wearing life jackets stepped off of a pretty solid looking rib with outboard motor. He was talking of the dangerous journey they had just undertaken from Turkey which is a mere 3 miles away.

I would think the holiday makers riding around the sea in one of those banana things they tow behind a speedboat were in more danger

This is going to end in tears and the useless politicians will disappear from view.
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So this is where they will all end up? It looks like Germany has plenty of space to fill while the UK is bulging at the seams

"Projected change in population between today and 2080 in Europe"

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Old 9th Sep 2015, 15:37
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So the Hungarian prisons (and the legal system) is to become clogged with Islamists 'fleeing tyranny'?
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 15:41
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So the Hungarian prisons (and the legal system) is to become clogged with Islamists 'fleeing tyranny'?
They can presumably knock up a few new prison camps to hold them. It'll give the squaddies something useful to do now the nations of Europe are so lovey-dovey.

And I'm guessing their legal system doesn't give free lawyers to 'migrants' and fund them for a decade of 'appeals', unlike some countries.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 21:31
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I think that all refugees should be given refuge amongst the EU countries and then conscripted. They can then form a Free-Syrian Army and trained by each country so that they can regain their homeland. This is after all what we did in WW2.

This would apply to both male and female refugees (unless the women were looking after children) as our armed forces are made up of the same and as would seem a possibility, could be deployed to the region.

I would certainly fight for my homeland.
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 21:35
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The danger with providing military training to non-indigenous people is that they can turn against those who train them (and in a regimented fashion).
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 22:01
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Denmark seems to have lost its enthusiasm about refugees.

Migrant crisis: Denmark-Germany rail links suspended - BBC News
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Old 9th Sep 2015, 22:47
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Denmark seems to have lost its enthusiasm about refugees.
Indeed:-
First- and second-generation immigrants form 12% of Denmark's 5.6 million population.
From (and more at):- Denmark places anti-migrant adverts in Lebanon newspapers - BBC News
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 02:17
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The Danes and the Hungarians seem to be the only ones that understand what a disaster this invation is.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 02:34
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And that might just start the chain reaction the EU suits are so afraid of....... the erosion of their authority.
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Old 10th Sep 2015, 02:51
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How long before the half-wit politicians start to send planes to pick them up and save them from 'the hazardous sea journey' ?
We Auzzies beat you to the punch there. Our Greens Party spokesPERSON, Sarah HansonhypenYoung suggested that years ago.
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