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Old 22nd Jun 2015, 12:07
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That reminds me of a joke ....

Two work-mates, one Catholic and the other Jewish, get their routine medicals at the same time, when both get bad news ... inoperable cancer.

The next day at work they are commiserating. The Catholic says that he has so much that he needs to do: sorting out his will, figuring out what to tell his family, apologizing to everyone he's wronged, figuring out how to spend his remaining days ... then he notices that the Jew doesn't seem all that agitated. "What are you planning to do about this, then?"

"Oh, I think I need to get a second opinion."
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Old 22nd Jun 2015, 13:04
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I really don't want to bore you lot with mawkish details, but could check in with a progress report occasionally ... but only if you think it useful.
Absolutely! After all, this is a Virtual Pub, with the added advantage that there's no dress code, you don't have to pay mark-up on drinks and the bathrooms are as clean as you desire.
Good luck, and may the [email protected] (meant in the nicest possible way) be wrong. It's happened before! My grandmother survived the Big T diagnosis and lived another thirty years (to die of something else). She and her doctor always said a key factor was her 'never give up' attitude.

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Old 11th Jul 2015, 17:56
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Progress so far:
Refused chemo ... it works for some cancers but not for stage 4 lung cancer. Nausea and vomiting plus a zapped immune system invites death by pneumonia or common cold.

So what's the alternative?

Lots of medical research on the internet; but discarding nonsense and the snake oil salesmen, and talking with long term cancer survivors ...

It seems cancer cells live off glucose and glutamine ... without these they starve and die. Healthy normal cells however can use glucose from carbohydrates, and ketones from metabolism of body fats.
Knowing this some people have survived cancer by regularly fasting for 3 to five days at a time.

Also it seems cancer cells thrive in an anaerobic acidic environment and are damaged by oxygen and alkaline body tissues.
Again some people have survived cancer by adopting a strictly alkaline diet. While oxygen therapy units are available throughout the UK where patients can breath oxygen in a pressure chamber.

The most promising research is in cannabidiol (derived from cannabis plants!) The oil targets lung cancer cells and inhibits their growth and metastasis. It has few side effects and does not damage the immune system.
The highly concentrated oil is introduced to the body via suppositories, since taking it orally causes unpleasant mental sensations or extreme 'highs'.
However use of this oil is illegal in some countries including the UK.
Most research has been done in Spain, and in some American states. Also there is an extensive undercover 'cottage industry' of cannabidiol producers in the UK. Some dealers charge huge fees, while a growing number of altruistic cancer survivors are providing the stuff for free.

So I have become a reluctant hippie living on a vegetarian diet, with no sugar, no carbohydrates, no cows milk, no red meat, and few fruits. I breath pure oxygen for one hour, on four days of the week. I drink three teaspoons of highly alkaline soda bicarbonate in water each day. I drink three teaspoons of diamateous earth in water each day, which along with other supplements detoxes my plumbing. I chew up to 30 apricot kernels per day, as these are said to kill cancer cells. The veggie diet includes juiced fresh vegetables and non wheat bread. Finally each day and each night is suppository time, which tends to make me somewhat laid back and sleepy.
My French wife has become a revolutionary tigress and taken over the whole healing process ... without her I might well have given up.

This crazy protocol might be totally futile ... but what the hell ... it's worth a try.

So the next CT scan in three months time will be interesting

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Old 11th Jul 2015, 19:51
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Vee Tail, many years ago my quite young Mum had treatment for cancer in a clinic in Mexico, she lived in LA and couldn't have access to the particular treatment available across the border.
I went to a lecture at her clinic in Mexico about ( I think something called Liatral) which was a diet developed from yams. Apparently the people in the Andes lived on yams, had a life expectancy of over a hundred and cancer was almost unknown, whatever the relevance of this to the treatment I don't know, but Mum lived for a much extended period beyond the initial prognosis.
I am very glad that you are still with us and wish you the very best with your diet, I hope you have planned a glass of red with your diet.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 20:07
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Let's be a little careful here:

OM15, Laetrile is a compound derived from apricot, almond, or cherry pits. Nothing to do with root-based diets like yams. Well studied, and has a significant risk of cyanide poisoning. Look up the case of Steve McQueen if you wish.

That said, Vee, it matters not one whit what I, other medical folks, or even web-posters think of your plan. If it helps you, physically, emotionally, or whatever way, or gives you long term or even short term improvement, I say go for it with confidence. I just don't want to see you harmed by some treatment that offers nothing in return. My oncologist colleagues do enough of that already. Best wishes to you and your family.
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Old 11th Jul 2015, 21:10
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VT-1
bad news indeed.
Do what I do, take life (what's left of it) by the scruff of the neck and wring it for everything that's there, be your own bloke, don't let yourself be sucked in by everyone else's grief.
Tell people what you really think (of them), (I particularly enjoy this caveat),

Most of all mate, be brave.

PM me if I can help.
Don't give up lad,

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Old 11th Jul 2015, 21:39
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obgraham, thanks for the clarification, it was over thirty five years ago and details are hazy.
My message to VT is that diet can be hugely significant in these circumstances, in this case my Mum carried on living a productive and happy life for quite some time.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 06:12
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I read an interesting arcticle on the BBC a few months ago.

On how another sickness on top of a cancer, initially diagnosed as uncurable, could "trigger" the immune system strongly enough to cure it.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 07:32
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My French wife has become a revolutionary tigress and taken over the whole healing process ... without her I might well have given up.
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You are so lucky to have such support. Go for it.
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Old 12th Jul 2015, 18:49
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lost my wife to the same last year, live life to the full VT-1
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Old 15th Jul 2015, 09:42
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Hi VT1, please check your PMs.
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Old 16th Jul 2015, 13:11
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vee-tail-1:

I don't know if you're reading this thread anymore: I sure hope you are and, if so, please take a look at this.

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Old 18th Aug 2015, 21:37
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Today Veronique and I went to see the Consultant for the results of my latest scan, taken on 6th Aug Hiroshima day. I am not a brave man, but I accepted that the results were going to be bad. It seems to me that I should be grateful for the amazing life I have been given, and I should prepare myself and my family for death. A stage four terminal lung cancer is not going to sit around, and after four months it should spread to most of my body. So yesterday I took my canoe far out to sea off Llangrannog, hoping to see the dolphins there perhaps for the last time. Strangely a wind came up and the sea humped and rolled with small white caps which tossed my canoe but did not seem dangerous at all. Then the black cloud which had suddenly obscured the Sun moved away, and the warmth felt good on my emaciated but strong body. I was not looking for messages but it seemed like a good day.
The oncology waiting room was a sad place, full of poor souls about to have chemo, and the TV there was showing horrible accidents where victims survived with terrible injuries. Not sure what message this was meant to be giving us, but it sure didn't improve my mood. We were called into the Consultant's office where she was looking in some puzzlement at my scan. “It's not grown and it's not spread” she said. Both Veronique and I were in tears and hugged each other. “You could still have the targeted treatment?” she said almost apologetically. But she listened intently to my explanation of why that now seemed pointless. I felt suddenly quite sorry for the Consultant … patients with terminal cancer are not supposed to refuse treatment and get better. So I indicated an itchy spot on my face that was giving me concern. She leapt over and gave it a close look “That needs following up by your GP” she said almost with relief “I will refer you to him, and there is no need for any further consultation with me” she added “Don’t overdo the diet and give yourself treats occasionally” “Losing one stone is a huge weight loss and the cancer could still come back at some time” Dr Lopez my oncologist is a lovely person and I feel really glad to have met her.
So what am I to make of this? My death sentence has been put on hold and the unconventional approach to cancer shown to work. This has given me hope and it should be my task to pass that hope onto others. Seems to me cancer is a wake up call to those who get it … it is telling us that unless we make big changes in our lives we will die prematurely. For sure it’s not easy to change your diet, change your job, change your ways of thinking … throwing out acid food, negative thoughts, removing yourself from a damaging job, a dysfunctional relationship, or a dangerous life style for example. But that seems to be it what it takes, as well as all sorts of natural healing treatments.
Above all IMO we should get really ingrained in our consciousness ‘Miracles Happen’ Love to all … seems I may be around for a bit longer.
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Old 18th Aug 2015, 21:48
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Fantastic news for you - wishing you all the very best for your continued progress!
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Old 18th Aug 2015, 22:50
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Vee=tail, great news.

My wife and I went on a keto intensive diet last year. She dropped a lot of weight, so did I.

I think I'll get back on it, and stick to it a bit better with your testimonial on how it's helped you.

It's high protein, low carbs, loads of veg, very little starch, and in maintenance no gluten. We've begun cooking and baking with non wheat flours, and don't miss the old stuff.

Best wishes, hang in there, and now I have to decide when to start with the suppositories .... hmmm, I'll hold off a bit, eh?
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Old 19th Aug 2015, 12:19
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Hey, good stuff.
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Old 19th Aug 2015, 13:14
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Hang in there buddy, don't let it beat you!
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Old 19th Aug 2015, 17:41
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Living Proof, a medical mutiny, by Michael Gearin-Tosh.
The medical profession gave him 6 months....8 years on, he was alive, healthy and working.......
It did help that he was a Oxford University Professor and had access to the finest minds. That's not to say he didn't have to steer a course between opposing dogmas.
being a tightwad, i bought it used, paperback, about £3 delivered, via Amazon.

Great news for you , Veetail, hang on in there. also, the "bugger, i've got cancer" thread is inspirational.
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Old 19th Aug 2015, 20:56
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Who would want to be an oncologist? Not I, especially with the limited tools to provide possible therapy, but also the limitations of being a registered practitioner (you cannot experiment much or prescribe certain treatments for risk of being struck of the medical practitioners register). I have recently finished reading a book "Do No Harm" by a leading brain surgeon in the UK - Henry Marsh I think it was. A very interesting read from the medical practitioners point of view. It also shows that they are not infallible, can make mistakes, but also "miracles" do happen.

I have been down the internet road looking for treatment and have even found a misdiagnosis which, if left treated incorrectly, would have left me bed bound for many months. I have not got the big "C" (thank goodness), but am embarking on the road of an investigative biopsy next month if the lump in my breast does not leave me.

Vee-Tail-1 - I would not underestimate the point you made about positivity not to mention the support of Veronique. You've done your homework and have a chosen path which at this stage is working and I applaud you for your confidence and positivity.

Do keep us in the proverbial loop, I hope you continue to show the big 'C' the big finger!
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Old 19th Aug 2015, 22:13
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Glad to hear.
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