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Old 12th May 2015, 16:40
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I am like henry_crun - no TV, hence no licence. Plus I object - very strongly - to being penalised by including the charge in council tax.

Sadly, we seem to get absolute idiots in as ministers who have a bright idea, but don't ( or more, likely CAN'T) think through the unintended consequences of their bright ideas. Irritating Duncan Smith is a good example.
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Old 12th May 2015, 16:48
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How much do you think you are paying for commercial TV programmes? I would think that it would work out more than 39p a day. The cost of every TV advert is paid for by increased price of the item on sale - anyone who thinks that commercial TV is "free" is seriously deluded.
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Old 12th May 2015, 16:58
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How much do you think you are paying for commercial TV programmes? I would think that it would work out more than 39p a day. The cost of every TV advert is paid for by increased price of the item on sale - anyone who thinks that commercial TV is "free" is seriously deluded.
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Old 12th May 2015, 16:59
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A bonus with the BBC is not being treated to adverts that give the impression that the UK is populated by morons - a prime example being the Money Supermarket advert with the man in tight shorts and high heels including Sharon Osborne.
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Old 12th May 2015, 17:24
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I'd do something about the BBC's addiction to helicopters. Did we really need to see William & Kate driving the latest sprog back to Kensington Palace from the air? Similarly the PM & his wife driving from Downing Street to Buckingham Palace to see HM, also covered from a helicopter. How much did just those two cost us?
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Old 12th May 2015, 17:33
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I would guess that the helicopter was cheaper than a string of cameras along the route, bearing in mind the hourly cost of a Second Assistant Producer's Diversity Advisory Manager's Personal Assistant's salary, etc
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Old 12th May 2015, 17:37
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Me, I like the BBC - as said, no adverts. Ok, then I could:-

Watch the commercial ones on CatchUp - no adverts!!
Except you can't - the commercial catch up players will not let you fast forward through the adverts, so back to tea-making/bog breaks (we do try to record any commercial TV stuff we intend to watch so we can fast-forward the adverts but sometimes we forget. And then I realise just how much I love the BBC).
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Old 12th May 2015, 17:42
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Another thing HUGELY in favour of BBC is the amount of British made programmes. Most other channels broadcast almost entirely American programmes and films (or repeats of BBC programmes as on Dave and Yesterday!)

All the employment that creates is very significant, all the actors, costume designers, presenters, producers technicians, set builders, prop-makers (like me!) camera and sound crew all being gainfully employed and contributing to society.

I admit that I do not often watch BBC 1 and BBC 2 because 3 and 4 always have better programmes for me, like history, drama, science and technology, arts and comedy.

I think the amount of imported material on British TV is grossly out of control; with no BBC there will be just about no British programmes.

(I am exaggerating somewhat for effect, but not much!)

EDIT: I have never been an employee of BBC, just a casual freelance, the BBC pay is very modest indeed and I don't get royalties on repeats!

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Old 12th May 2015, 17:43
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How about drones (flown by qualified personnel) instead of helicopters to save costs? [WHINGE] Why do they always play that irritating 'helicopter' soundtrack for their aerial shots? [/WHINGE]
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Old 12th May 2015, 18:05
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The BBC and the Royal family are unique British institutions. For that reason they should be preserved.


BTW, I am not an ardent royalist and I don't watch much television.
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Old 12th May 2015, 18:21
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Originally Posted by bcgallacher View Post
A bonus with the BBC is not being treated to adverts that give the impression that the UK is populated by morons - a prime example being the Money Supermarket advert with the man in tight shorts and high heels including Sharon Osborne.
No, you get a whole channel dedicated to giving the impression that the UK is populated by morons.

I can usually spot a BBC show within thirty seconds by the absurd level of political correctness it exudes. As for the idea that it's somehow magically better than the crap on TV in the rest of the world, I can destroy that claim in just two words: Noel Edmonds.

The best I can say about it is that it co-funds some of the good stuff on TV in the rest of the world. I'm not really a TV person, but most of the shows I have watched in the last few years would have been immediately rejected by the BBC for being politically incorrect.
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Old 12th May 2015, 18:43
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How much do you think you are paying for commercial TV programmes?
One does try to reduce this cost - for example I have tried to refrain from buying stuff that has "as advertised on TV" all over it.
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Old 12th May 2015, 18:51
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I can destroy that claim in just two words: Noel Edmonds.
Er, doesn't he appear on Channel 4?

[not that I disagree with the sentiment!]
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Old 12th May 2015, 19:06
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Er, doesn't he appear on Channel 4?
Maybe now. But he used to be on the BBC every time I visited my parents, so I assumed he was still there.
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Old 12th May 2015, 21:56
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Originally Posted by bcgallacher View Post
How much do you think you are paying for commercial TV programmes? I would think that it would work out more than 39p a day. The cost of every TV advert is paid for by increased price of the item on sale - anyone who thinks that commercial TV is "free" is seriously deluded.
As I don't watch TV (I haven't for seven years now and I don't have a digital TV or a suitable aerial) am I paying for commercial television that I do not watch through the cost of my purchases that are advertised on TV?

Can I get a rebate on my shopping?

Likewise I am not in favour of funding the BBC through general taxation or as an addendum to my Council Tax.

I still get those intrusive letters as to why haven't I paid my TV licence, even though I have had a visit from the 'enforcers' who said that the letters would stop.

If the BBC stopped sending me the letters they could put the money towards the licence fee . . .
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Old 12th May 2015, 22:27
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i totally agree with the above poster suggesting the bbc and royal family are cherished and should be preserved.


might require a few litres of FORMALDEHYDE, but it could be done.


FISH.
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Old 13th May 2015, 07:47
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I think most people would pay the tax, it's just the fact that it's mandatory that gets me... Saying that I have to admit I have never paid the bbc tax, as I don't agree with it, had the odd letter but nothing more ever.
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Old 13th May 2015, 08:39
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Apparently you cannot be jailed for not paying your TV licence - just if you don't pay the court fine.
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Old 13th May 2015, 10:30
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Would we be having this discussion if Top Gear hadn't lost its presenters?

What about council taxes? I pay council taxes, but I have yet to use any council resources.
And for those who don't drive a car, why are they paying taxes that go to road repair?
And if I drive a car, why am I paying taxes that go to supporting the rail network? or HS2?
I've never had a fire in my house, why do I pay any taxes that support the fire brigade?
I don't swim or boat in the channel, why do I pay taxes for the coast guard?
I don't fly above about 8000', why do I pay taxes that cover flights over that height?
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Old 13th May 2015, 10:50
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I would guess that the helicopter was cheaper than a string of cameras along the route, bearing in mind the hourly cost of a Second Assistant Producer's Diversity Advisory Manager's Personal Assistant's salary, etc
I'm sure you are right Fox. The notion of just one camera at either end would not, of course, have occurred to the Beeb!

One nice spin off from the TV licence is BBC Radio. My radio is on all day from 8am to 7 pm, alternating between Radios 3 and 4. Those two alone are worth the licence fee in my opinion, and there are plenty of other BBC stations for those whose tastes differ from mine. All advert free, unlike Classic FM which seems to specialise in particularly stupid and annoying ads
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