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Old 27th Oct 2019, 06:59
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Just 400+ pages of the Mueller report, testimony from all security agency heads, a recent Senate report, an Putin himself stating he ran an operation to get Trump elected.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 07:06
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Nice scheme, Mac, but there isn't even a shred of evidence to support it.
I think its clear for all to see......Apart from the blind and those who even with all that has happened since the start of his presidency still support him.

Hey Mac, I really like the "suka, blyad!" reference. Exactly how I would picture Putin when speaking with his KGB cohorts.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 08:22
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Can't wait to hear what he is going to try to say at 0900 Washington time.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 08:34
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meadowrun: I am sure it will begin with words similar to cofeve and definitely include the words "greatest, most fantastic, amazing" etc and "didn't I do well?" Oh, and it will probably include IS and Al Baghdadi.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 09:08
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Seriously?

"John Kelly 'was totally unequipped to handle the genius of our great President'"

Where did this come from, the "Democratic People's Republic of America"?
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 09:35
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"Nice scheme, Mac, but there isn't even a shred of evidence to support it."

a.) There are so many shreds that that they make up a truckload of Shreddies - and no, I'm not going to start to enumerate them.
b.) It is exactly what I would do to destabilize a country and throw it's politics into chaos.
c.) Stirring up Brexit has worked a treat to polarize UK politics, and to endanger the EU and NATO. Good move that!

"Conquest without War" is worth reading if you can find a copy.
If you, of all people, can't smell the fish by now....

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Old 27th Oct 2019, 09:56
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words similar to cofeve
That's one of those words that will be in the history of mystery words along with "STENDEC".
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 10:02
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Copacetic....
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 15:51
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
"Nice scheme, Mac, but there isn't even a shred of evidence to support it."

a.) There are so many shreds that that they make up a truckload of Shreddies - and no, I'm not going to start to enumerate them.
b.) It is exactly what I would do to destabilize a country and throw it's politics into chaos.
c.) Stirring up Brexit has worked a treat to polarize UK politics, and to endanger the EU and NATO. Good move that!

"Conquest without War" is worth reading if you can find a copy.
If you, of all people, can't smell the fish by now....

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Assertion in B, so if it’s what you’d do, it absolutely without doubt must be what Putin would do?

Read that without the question mark at the end if it tickles your fancy.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:29
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There is still mo evidence that Putin, etc actually DID influence, the election. Sure, he thinks he could. But where are the changed votes...the stuffed boxes.

You guys just repeat what your media masters write, hoping if you say it enough times, it must be true.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:45
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if you say it enough times, it must be true
No fair using trump tactics.

The Russians, Chinese, Albanians, Rotarians, Star Chamber might have had some kind of influence on various social media but that's all fake news and I think the majority of people don't let Facebook etc.make up their minds about political decisions. Fake news is mostly another trump tactic.Well, he's certainly one of the founding fathers of the propaganda.

Apparently he has ordered the cancellation of WH subscriptions to the Washington Post and the NY Times and instructed all federal government entities to do the same.
Ostriches don't really bury their heads in the sand. They do hunker down low while on their nests to avoid detection by predators..
That was fake news from not so observant explorers.

Now, what to do about the hundreds of rabid IS prisoners in the camps. They are unrepentant and an ongoing threat.
What is a secure and humanitarian way to deal with them? I suggest there is none.
Could take them out the same way Al-Bagdaddy was. No...no...no...they're women and children........What to do with the rabid insane?

Meanwhile the IS folks will appoint some other two-tone bearded, self-appointed mullah as the new guy and look to retaliate
somehow, somewhere, sometime.

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Old 27th Oct 2019, 16:52
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Come now WC, it is far better and easier to destabilize a country from within than send in soldiers.

The more sophisticated the country the easier the target.
Go out and get kids to feed all the cash machines a slick of gum
A gallon of SupaLube on the Interstate at night
A .22 into the neighborhood transformer.
Made-up stories on the Internet - spread FUD thinly but widely.

Putin could use a big stick if he chose, but why bother when there are simpler ways.

Subtlety is not your strong point, is it!

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Old 27th Oct 2019, 20:13
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Hannity Spills Raid Details

Leaks about Hannity’s expose’ on the raid have been reported. Highlights:

-Trump was not golfing at $3m a trip for the last 3 years, but going to Ft. Bragg to train with the Rangers to insure he was ready to lead this raid.

- Obtained a Thor fat suit from Marvel to hide his newly acquired Hemsworth worthy six pack.

- Dipped his bullets in pigs blood to desecrate as many “dirty” Muslims as he can (would consider accidentally killing an Israeli agent as collateral damage).

- Was late to his own party as he and his assault team were late getting back from Syria.
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Old 27th Oct 2019, 20:23
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San Fran Nan is mad that Trump didn't get her OK before raiding Albaghdadi. Maybe he should have called Schifft, too.

Leaking has its consequences.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 01:28
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I'm sure he was a loving family man the AK was just for show.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 01:48
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I'm sure he was a loving family man the AK was just for show.
2 questions that arise from the BBC article that I’ve read.

Speaking from the White House, Mr Trump said Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi detonated his suicide vest after fleeing into a tunnel, chased by US military dogs.

The blast mutilated Baghdadi's body but, according to the president, an on-site DNA test confirmed his identity.

1) Since when do IS (or any fanatical Islamist) leaders wear suicide vests. They get “foot soldiers” to do that little piece of dirty work for them. A suicide vest isn’t usually a device who’s main aim is suicide. It’s main aim is to get in to a crowd undetected to take out as many unsuspecting victims as possible.

There are simpler ways to take one’s own life. A vest is too complicated and too prone to malfunction. Simple hand grenade will do.

2) On site DNA testing. Really?

Granted he has given as much “proof” as Obama did with the execution of Bin Laden. But he hasn’t come back. Al Baghdadi has been killed quite a few times.

Although it is quite funny the following comments (and I have no way of knowing if they are true or not and it’s bedtime anyway)

The raid, as reported, took place at 3:30PM Washington time. The photo, as shown in the camera IPTC data, was taken at "17:05:24".

Also according to official records at the time of the raid he was playing golf. And not in the situation room as published by the White House twitter account.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 02:23
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Originally Posted by back to Boeing View Post


2 questions that arise from the BBC article that I’ve read.

Speaking from the White House, Mr Trump said Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi detonated his suicide vest after fleeing into a tunnel, chased by US military dogs.

The blast mutilated Baghdadi's body but, according to the president, an on-site DNA test confirmed his identity.

1) Since when do IS (or any fanatical Islamist) leaders wear suicide vests. They get “foot soldiers” to do that little piece of dirty work for them. A suicide vest isn’t usually a device who’s main aim is suicide. It’s main aim is to get in to a crowd undetected to take out as many unsuspecting victims as possible.

There are simpler ways to take one’s own life. A vest is too complicated and too prone to malfunction. Simple hand grenade will do.

2) On site DNA testing. Really?

Granted he has given as much “proof” as Obama did with the execution of Bin Laden. But he hasn’t come back. Al Baghdadi has been killed quite a few times.

Although it is quite funny the following comments (and I have no way of knowing if they are true or not and it’s bedtime anyway)

The raid, as reported, took place at 3:30PM Washington time. The photo, as shown in the camera IPTC data, was taken at "17:05:24".

Also according to official records at the time of the raid he was playing golf. And not in the situation room as published by the White House twitter account.

Jeeez, if we can't believe Trump, who can we believe?
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 02:43
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Originally Posted by back to Boeing View Post
2) On site DNA testing. Really?
Yah - US forces have developed a 2-hour "minilab" troop-portable DNA analyzer for just such situations. DailyBeast reports the US had acquired a comparison DNA sample from a daughter.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-us...kly?ref=scroll
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 03:40
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Guess those forensic crime shows detailing painstaking and complicated lab work to extract and then analyze DNA samples are all wrong.
It does seem that it still takes the cops a month or a month and a half to get cell phone records from the phone companies.
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Old 28th Oct 2019, 12:59
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Originally Posted by pattern_is_full View Post
Yah - US forces have developed a 2-hour "minilab" troop-portable DNA analyzer for just such situations. DailyBeast reports the US had acquired a comparison DNA sample from a daughter.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-us...kly?ref=scroll
Hard to know from that article exactly what the process is. 100lb of kit seems excessive by modern standards, there are much lighter systems than that for getting whole genome sequences, but they are slow and require some pre-processing (but certainly not a PhD!). Maybe it mostly robotics to process the sample. However, given prior knowledge of a set of variants to expect in a particular person, such as you would get from his daughter, it would be easy to design a 'subject-specific' test that could be very fast - ie minutes and be completed on a single piece of plastic.

So I suspect that article is mostly wrong.

However:

To confirm bin Laden’s identity, the U.S. intelligence community reportedly piggybacked on an immunization drive in Abbottabad shortly before the May 2011 raid. The immunization effort could have allowed U.S. operatives to collect samples from bin Laden’s family members.
That, cost the lives of 1,000's of children by causing distrust of vaccination programs that were running well and were supported by local leaders.
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