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Old 29th May 2019, 18:44
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Clearly, Chuks, you are out of your depth in this discussion.

You should look up the definition of "Pederast". Nothing to do with the current debate. But then, you had SAT's over 1300 and by definition are a genius! Perhaps your verbal was a bit less than your math.

Please tell me that during your long and distinguished career in the military and as a professional pilot, that you never once, while sitting on some worn out sofa in the pilots' lounge, engaged in some crass discussion as to what you might or might not do with that comely stewardess, lieutenant, or desk clerk over there. And then let me know when it was that Trump was guilty of acting on his locker-room talk.

Far be it from me to defend the moral behaviour of our politicians -- by and large they are an unsavory bunch more in tune with my neighbor's stray cats. At least, when Trump had need for a little nifky-poofy, he either married the young thing, or paid for the service, either in cash or by post-dated check.

But you and your lot seem to have no problem with actual groping, rather than talk, even if it involves young interns, and now even 10 year old little girls, and even after the offender has been called to task on it!

There's no end to the hypocrisy of the Left!
Trump trash talks, Clinton actually uses the same orifice as his cigar humidor.

Yup, hypocrisy. One of our lefties will be along momentarily to tell us why it was ok in Clintonís case.


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Old 29th May 2019, 18:58
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Do you think that this is the way politics is really meant to be done in the USA?

Says the guy who won’t even live in his own country. At some point your claim to being an American will be solely based by the passport you hold (have a German one as well?) and not because of the shared American experience.

Stick to German/EU politics Herr Chuks. Maybe Brexit as well as that’s going to negatively effect the EU as a whole.

Danke dir.



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Old 29th May 2019, 19:06
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Originally Posted by ThorMos View Post
I know, yours is not my country and i should keep out of the discussion, but, please allow me the question: Is 'grab her by the pussy' a better prerequisite
for being american president?
Watch Crocodile Dundee, then blame the Australians for putting it on film. Didnít hear anybody complain about it then.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:11
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
Trump trash talks, Clinton actually uses the same orifice as his cigar humidor.

Yup, hypocrisy. One of our lefties will be along momentarily to tell us why it was ok in Clinton’s case.
While I am not a lefty, there may be a small distinction here in that the cigar insertion escapade was a case of conesnsual shennanigans between adults, the cigar receiver being one who is best described as a preidential groupie.

That it was an abuse of position by the President (the infidelity was/is Hillary's problem to deal with, she married him) and deemed improper behavior by many doesn't seem to have been a matter of disagreement. What to do about it, and its deeper significance (beyond flavoring a cigar) was of course a dispute that seemed to diverge along party lines.

That a fair number of people in that party, and particularly on the left, were so intent on forgiving him and moving on, while nowadays the torches and pitchforks response is habitual, strikes me as a profound hypocrisy. I am sure that someone will now enter and scream about the patriarchy in order to complete this circle jerk.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:14
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I've never heard of a really smart person who has felt the need to proclaim his genius to the world and qualify it as "extremely stable".
It tends to say exactly the opposite.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:19
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
I've never heard of a really smart person who has felt the need to proclaim his genius to the world and qualify it as "extremely stable".
It tends to say exactly the opposite.
What one wonders is if perhaps said proclamation confused mensa card with menses card (something like a red flag?), and we've been working from that misunderstanding ever since.
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Old 29th May 2019, 19:53
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 View Post
That's the 64 million dollar question, Uncle Fred, and I'll offer that the magnetic cats (which showed so much promise early on) seem to be having some growing pains (as much new technology seems to ...)
But as the implementation will not be swift, we'll see steam catapults for a while.
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Oh Jesus Wept. What a damned fool thing to say.
EMALS is for sure having growing pains, but they are working on the fixes.

With his attitude, the V-22 would not now exist.

Back to politics.

Between OAC and Trump, I think they read Napoleon's book.

More on the Navy's plans/ideas on getting the bugs sorted out.
Thank you for those links Lonewolf. Looks as if they could not go with steam on the Ford even if they wanted as the ship was not designed with space for the piping. Interesting how they refer to the electrical distribution onboard.

I imagine they will get it worked out and it will be fine. Major shift in technology here.
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Old 29th May 2019, 20:00
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 View Post
While I am not a lefty, there may be a small distinction here in that the cigar insertion escapade was a case of conesnsual shennanigans between adults, the cigar receiver being one who is best described as a preidential groupie.

That it was an abuse of position by the President (the infidelity was/is Hillary's problem to deal with, she married him) and deemed improper behavior by many doesn't seem to have been a matter of disagreement. What to do about it, and its deeper significance (beyond flavoring a cigar) was of course a dispute that seemed to diverge along party lines.

That a fair number of people in that party, and particularly on the left, were so intent on forgiving him and moving on, while nowadays the torches and pitchforks response is habitual, strikes me as a profound hypocrisy. I am sure that someone will now enter and scream about the patriarchy in order to complete this circle jerk.
If you seek distinction, find it in an actual act vs locker room talk.

I take issue with your assertion that the infidelity was Hillary’s alone to deal with. The act and the lie under oath are so interwoven that the infidelity affects a larger audience than just Hillary.

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Old 29th May 2019, 20:32
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Out of someone's depth, for sure!

OB, that was a general discussion of what it takes to be considered a genius, namely scoring in the top two percent on some recognized test of intelligence. There was no claim made then by me of any particular SAT score. You are quite welcome to guess about that, but I did not actually claim to be a genius there.

Am I smarter than Donald Trump? Well, for now let's just say that I know how to spell "accomplishments," and stop right there. If we ever get to see his SAT score then I will be ever so happy to tell you mine. Thrilled, in fact. (If I thought that Trump had any idea that I even exist then I would tell him this myself, "You show us yours and I will show you mine." As it is, I live in hope that some bold reporter asks him to prove that he really is a genius, to, uh, "Whip it out.")

OB, I'm not out of my depth, just out of your depth. I don't intend to go that low.

As to that other thing, yeah, wrong sort of pervert in terms of what you are accusing Biden of. I will swap that to "paedophile," just to make you happy: 1 point to OB.

WC, is it true, what they say? "Living in California is like living in a bowl of granola; what ain't fruits or nuts, is flakes." A lot of people are saying that, so that I just wanted to ask.

About 30 years ago I was just getting my briefing on how to settle into life in the Bay Area when the phone rang: Miami on the line. Did I want to ferry a new Cessna to Djibouti and put it into service there? You bet! Then I thought to myself, "Hey, if you would really rather go to Djibouti instead of staying in California, well, screw California!" Then the rest, as they say, was history.

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Old 29th May 2019, 21:01
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post
OB, that was a general discussion of what it takes to be considered a genius, namely scoring in the top two percent on some recognized test of intelligence. There was no claim made then by me of any particular SAT score. You are quite welcome to guess about that, but I did not actually claim to be a genius there.

Am I smarter than Donald Trump? Well, for now let's just say that I know how to spell "accomplishments," and stop right there. If we ever get to see his SAT score then I will be ever so happy to tell you mine. Thrilled, in fact. (If I thought that Trump had any idea that I even exist then I would tell him this myself, "You show us yours and I will show you mine." As it is, I live in hope that some bold reporter asks him to prove that he really is a genius, to, uh, "Whip it out.")

OB, I'm not out of my depth, just out of your depth. I don't intend to go that low.

As to that other thing, yeah, wrong sort of pervert in terms of what you are accusing Biden of. I will swap that to "paedophile," just to make you happy: 1 point to OB.

WC, is it true, what they say? "Living in California is like living in a bowl of granola; what ain't fruits or nuts, is flakes." A lot of people are saying that, so that I just wanted to ask.

About 30 years ago I was just getting my briefing on how to settle into life in the Bay Area when the phone rang: Miami on the line. Did I want to ferry a new Cessna to Djibouti and put it into service there? You bet! Then I thought to myself, "Hey, if you would really rather go to Djibouti instead of staying in California, well, screw California!" Then the rest, as they say, was history.
Achtung baby! You are in danger of no longer being an American. Do keep in mind, San Diego is the largest city in the US with a Republican Mayor. The county board of supervisors is composed of almost exclusively of Republicans. We donít sh!t in the streets like they do in the land of Pelosi, your hero.
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Old 29th May 2019, 21:17
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Sorry, Chuks, no forgiveness here.

You are the one forever chastising us for using the wrong word, or the wrong punctuation. Usually claiming that sloppiness in writing/spelling/definitions indicates sloppiness in thought. Heck, you even got in a lick about spelling in that very post.

So, no, you can't just pop in here and change your word. You used a word referring to an offense which is not what we were discussing here. You got caught out on it.

Sloppy thought, I suggest. Your only option is to admit your transgression, promise to amend your ways, and throw yourself on the mercy of the rest of us here. Until that time, I find it impossible to take the rubbish you post here any more seriously.
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Old 29th May 2019, 22:14
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Sorry, Chuks, no forgiveness here.

You are the one forever chastising us for using the wrong word, or the wrong punctuation. Usually claiming that sloppiness in writing/spelling/definitions indicates sloppiness in thought. Heck, you even got in a lick about spelling in that very post.

So, no, you can't just pop in here and change your word. You used a word referring to an offense which is not what we were discussing here. You got caught out on it.

Sloppy thought, I suggest. Your only option is to admit your transgression, promise to amend your ways, and throw yourself on the mercy of the rest of us here. Until that time, I find it impossible to take the rubbish you post here any more seriously.
Yup, you might get callled out on social media as being low IQ by Chuks, quite the Trumpian habit Chuks has.
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Old 29th May 2019, 22:31
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Sez who?

OB, I think that you have me confused with someone else, someone who takes you seriously. I am stood here in this virtual child's wading pool, up to my ankles in warm drool provoked by Trump, and you are telling me that I am out of my depth? If you say so, Squire!

I made a mistake. So? Plan A seems to be working: Edit the mistake out and carry on. Now if I were Donald Trump I would pretend that was no mistake at all, when idiots such as yourself would praise him for taking that approach, just because it annoys people who demand accuracy in speech. Since it's my mistake things are different, aren't they? You can't have it both ways.

Same with Biden vs. Trump. Joe gets a bit handsy in a stupidly old-fashioned way (one that might well make him unelectable, not that he understands that); Trump does actual sex crimes, proved by his own brainless boasts, even. One gets slammed as a paedophile, a "kiddy groper," but the other one gets a free pass, just because ....

WC, it is a proven historical fact that Dr. Goebbels was one very brainy little guy, but one who made a lot of really, really stupid choices. Nobody wastes a lot of time trying to prove that he was, as you put it, "low IQ." They just look at the stupid choices he made and think him some sort of idiot for that. That's all.

If any Trump partisan were to flash a Mensa card that would only make me think less of him. Trump, on the other hand, is perfectly safe that way; nobody could ever think any the less of him for the stupid choices he makes.

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Old 29th May 2019, 22:57
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post
OB, I think that you have me confused with someone else, someone who takes you seriously. I am stood here in this virtual child's wading pool, up to my ankles in warm drool provoked by Trump, and you are telling me that I am out of my depth? If you say so, Squire!

I made a mistake. So? Plan A seems to be working: Edit the mistake out and carry on. Now if I were Donald Trump I would pretend that was no mistake at all, when idiots such as yourself would praise him for taking that approach, just because it annoys people who demand accuracy in speech. Since it's my mistake things are different, aren't they? You can't have it both ways.

Same with Biden vs. Trump. Joe gets a bit handsy in a stupidly old-fashioned way (one that might well make him unelectable, not that he understands that); Trump does actual sex crimes, proved by his own brainless boasts, even. One gets slammed as a paedophile, a "kiddy groper," but the other one gets a free pass, just because ....

WC, it is a proven historical fact that Dr. Goebbels was one very brainy little guy, but one who made a lot of really, really stupid choices. Nobody wastes a lot of time trying to prove that he was, as you put it, "low IQ." They just look at the stupid choices he made and think him some sort of idiot for that. That's all.

If any Trump partisan were to flash a Mensa card that would only make me think less of him. Trump, on the other hand, is perfectly safe that way; nobody could ever think any the less of him for the stupid choices he makes.
You somehow missed the point, Trump criticises folks for their perceived low IQ. So do you. Youíre more like him than youíd like to admit.
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Old 29th May 2019, 23:20
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It's called "projection", WC. Any time a Lefty accuses his opponent of doing something nefarious, it is a pretty safe bet that in fact the accuser is the real offender.
Chuks is still at it, though -- doubling down is just the starter for him. I think we're up to octupling down by now.
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Old 30th May 2019, 00:54
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
It's called "projection", WC. Any time a Lefty accuses his opponent of doing something nefarious, it is a pretty safe bet that in fact the accuser is the real offender.
Chuks is still at it, though -- doubling down is just the starter for him. I think we're up to octupling down by now.
Add in a dose of elitist arrogance as well.
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Old 30th May 2019, 01:40
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Speaking of the Navy. McCain's name shielded from Trump.

A man for all seasons...


https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/meghan-mccain-hits-out-at-trump-over-report-white-house-wanted-uss-john-s-mccain-covered-up/2019/05/29/3ad314b2-8272-11e9-933d-7501070ee669_story.html?utm_term=.27cf9ddc0f68
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Old 30th May 2019, 02:53
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This one has a photo of the shipís name covered..

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...n-out-n1011746

Sad how low the Navy groveled for the draft dodging whore monger Prvt Bone Spurs.
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Old 30th May 2019, 05:47
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Trumpians can do pop psychology, just like Lefties do!

"Any time a Lefty accuses his opponent of doing something nefarious, it is a pretty safe bet that in fact the accuser is the real offender."

Finding Trump to be unacceptable in many, many ways makes me a "Lefty"? Well then, move over, Karl Marx; there is a new boy in town!

Slagging off someone for being a Trump-loving dunderhead makes me very like Donald Trump, does it? Well, boys, you like Trump a whole lot, so I guess that means that I have become more likeable to you two as well. Cool! I have made two new friends. Or is this just that childish schoolyard chant of "I'm rubber and you're glue! Anything you say bounces off me and sticks to you!" but reformulated in pop psychological terms?

WC, your use of the term "elitist" makes me laugh. You do know the sort of people who use that term all the time against those they disagree with, right? Yes, the same sort of "Lefties" you probably think are trying to ruin your life!

Anyway, Trump himself claims elite status because of his wealth, his education, and his being a genius, when that last one literally means that he's positioning himself as being more intelligent than 98% of the general population. He then elevates himself even further by defaming others as being variously stupid, crazy, sleepy, weak, and so on. It is not enough that he puts himself on a pedestal; he also has to put others down.

What do you have against elitism in general, WC, given that you are totally fine with it when Trump practices elitism? It is okay for him to claim that he is a genius, right? What makes that even better for you, I guess, is that it has to be perfectly obvious just how stupid he really is; Trump is no genius at all. He is as much a genius as I am a "Lefty."

Strip away the rest of this little personal exchange of views we have just had and it comes down to this; Donald Trump needs to show us proof that he is a genius, when all he has to do is to release his SAT score. If he scored 1300 or above, Trump is a genius, finish palaver! That is not as good as taking a formal IQ test but it will do; what is good enough for Mensa should be good enough for the rest of us.

In reality Trump has as little wish to show us his SAT score as he has to show us his tax returns, and the transcript of what passed between himself and Vladimir Putin, and a whole lot of other things besides. Why? Because all of these things will show us that this man is a complete phony.

You guys who carry water for Trump are fine with this situation because it enables you to sustain your tolerance for intolerable and despicable Trump. When this sorry and aberrant episode is over it will be "Donald who? Oh, him .... Well, I knew who he really was all the time; there is no fooling me! It was just good fun to annoy those Lefties, those elitists, that's all."

We all do know that Trump's faking this business of being a "stable genius," right? (Perhaps he has even fooled himself with his bluster, but he's still obviously faking this). OB, and WC too ... how is that okay? You wouldn't want to hear someone make a genuine claim of being a genius. (Nobody would, really, unless that was done at least partially in jest. When we slithered around a bit on a layer of slush, giving one annoying passenger the yips, I told her that Ó had "been to racing driver's school." That was true, but it was not exactly my claim to be just like Niki Lauda.) Why, then, is it just fine to hear Trump make his repeated, fake claims for that?

I think that on some inner level pretty much everyone, even Trump himself, knows that he's working a monstrous con. When it comes to higher consciousness though, not all of us, and certainly not Trump himself, knows that, but it matters very much to know that because he is the President of the United States of America. This is not just a matter of afflicting random hairy-legged lesbians who drive rusty Subarus covered in stickers with the fantods. The price of backing Trump is simply too high.
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Old 30th May 2019, 14:56
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Sometimes there are some gems on Twitter, like this tweet from POTUS, where he mentions that he had nothing to do with Russia helping him get elected :

Just in case it gets taken down (I'm sure it will when someone actually notices what he's written), this is the tweet, copied and pasted here:







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