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Old 18th Feb 2019, 22:46
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In 2018, Omar came under criticism for statements she made about Israel before she was in the Minnesota legislature, which the Jewish Telegraphic Agency reported had "earned her notoriety in the pro-Israel community."In a 2012 tweet, she wrote, “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel. The comment, particularly the notion that Israelis had "hypnotized the world," was criticized as drawing on anti-semitic tropes New York Times columnist Bari Weiss wrote that Omar's statement tied into a millennia-old "conspiracy theory of the Jew as the hypnotic conspirator". When asked in an interview how she would respond to American Jews who found the remark offensive, Omar replied, "I don’t know how my comments would be offensive to Jewish Americans. My comments precisely are addressing what was happening during the Gaza War and I’m clearly speaking about the way the Israeli regime was conducting itself in that war." Later, after reading Weiss's commentary, Omar apologized for not "disavowing the anti-Semitic trope I unknowingly used". wiki

She does seem to have a hate on. She spends so much time on it. Just brush away a bit of the fog and there is the raving antisemitism. Or just wait for her next blunder.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 23:18
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Planks two short?

"I wonder why Friedman can make such a comment without being accused of anti-semitism but Omar cannot."

Gee, I wonder too. Could it be because Thomas Friedman is Jewish?

The thing is that there's a long-standing, anti-semitic belief that Jewish money rules the world while Omar's little tag-line is "It's all about the Benjamins baby." (Benjamin Franklin appears on the US $100 bill, so that it's nicknamed a "Benjamin.") Specifically, the AIPAC (American Israel Public Affairs Committee) lobbying organization must be bribing people to support Israel, even when that means going against US interests.

That is a pretty shallow explanation for the undue influence Israel has on the US government, that it must be down to simple Jewish bribery, that it really is "all about the Benjamins." Actually, I don't think that is what Omar meant, but she certainly left herself open to that as one very reasonable interpretation of it, one her political rivals and enemies were very quick to seize upon. Trump, our Bigot-in-Chief, must have thought that Christmas had come early this year.

Netanyahu has got away with a lot of terribly cheeky stuff for years now without even much censure from the USA. All those illegal settlements on the occupied West Bank, or as Likud has it, Judea and Samaria? The USA has helped finance this colossal obstacle to a peace agreement, and mostly looked the other way as it has been built.

It is only relatively recently that we have shifted a bit from an image of brave little Israel surrounded by fanatical, murderous Arabs to take a more balanced view of the Middle East. That said, it's still political suicide to be seen as profoundly anti-Israel, so that cooler heads seem to want to bring Omar into line.

To give you an idea of which way the wind blows in parts of the States, there was a pioneering lesbian organization called the Daughters of Bilitis. At one time they were meeting some resistance from a New York paper about getting something published. They simply asked the paper why there was this resistance to publishing something from a Jewish group, when resistance ceased. (Of course historical Bilitis was a contemporary of Sappho of Lesbos, so that the name had nothing to do with anything Jewish at all.)
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:20
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Oh dear, chuks, you might be called an anti semite with that post. (I kid ...)
AIPAC isn't the only effective lobby in Washington.

On to US politics of a domestic version, the California drug problems: the underground pot market is 'unfairly' competing with legal california pot.
Gee, who saw this coming (besides any of us who understand recreational drugs?)

Governor Newsom was pro legal pot, so now he gets to solve this thorny little problem regarding distribution networks and competition and such.
Newsom said recently that he would address the black market with a carrot-and-stick approach that would “move expeditiously at licensing more and more dispensaries” while also“making sure we go after the bad actors.”
“I want to see more enforcement,” Newsom told reporters two days after the critical advisory committee report was released.
As much as 80% of the marijuana sold in California comes from the black market, according to an estimate by New Frontier Data, a firm that tracks cannabis sales and trends. Analysts also found that California’s illicit pot market was valued at an estimated $3.7 billion last year, more than four times the size of the legal market.
Let's check back in a year and see how they have done. None of this stuff gets solved overnight. For the sake of california's tax revenue prospects, let's hope they get those numbers moving in a new direction. Given his lack of what I'd call "common sense" I hope he has some people around him who are sharp enough to come up with an implementable campaign plan.
We'll see.

As to chickens for Brits, given how the cod has nearly been fished into extinction since the age of sail, perhaps American chicken can help the Brits replace fish 'n chips with Chook 'n Chips, or Chicken 'n Chips, or whatever clever slang they can come up with.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:41
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[QUOTE As much as 80% of the marijuana sold in California comes from the black market. Governor Newsom was pro legal pot, so now he gets to solve this thorny little problem regarding distribution networks and competition and such][/QUOTE]

AwGeeWhiz...How do you beat the competition in the champion of capitalism country?
Ans: Better quality, cheaper price, good availability.
But it's really that old mindset lingering on. It's a plant.
Think more enforcement is a good idea? Start with fentanyl.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 02:43
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Are we really going to cite Bari Weiss’s commentary as accurate observation as to what constitutes anti Semitism?
In the name of balance, can we ask some neo nazis for thier opinion too?
Her accusations of anti Semitism as written recently in the NYT are based largely upon historical events from the bible!!!
Can we base our opinions upon reality instead of fables handed down over thousands of years in a book about sky fairies?

Kevin McCarthy:
George Soros, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg are trying to buy the midterm elections.”
A tweet since deleted, I wonder why.

Donald Trump to the Republican Jewish Coalition:
“You’re not going to support me because I don’t want your money . . . You want to control your own politician.”

Ivanka Trump:
“most corrupt candidate ever!” tweeted along with a picture of US dollar bills with a star of david.
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 04:20
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They played "You can't always get what you want" at that trump Venezuelan aid rallyish thing. Well the London Bach Choir bit anyway - I didn't stick around long.
Thought that was unusual and wondered if Mick knew.
but....

Donald Trump played the Rolling Stones' recording of the song at campaign appearances during the 2016 Republican primaries and the presidential election, including his nationally televised acceptance speech at the Republican National Convention in July.After the convention, the band stated publicly that they do not endorse Trump and requested that he cease all use of their songs immediately. Despite the requests to stop, Trump continued using the song at campaign rallies before and after the 2016 election.According to Jagger, the band considers the use of the song as a play-out at rallies to be "odd," given that it is a "sort of doomy ballad about drugs in Chelsea. wiki
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 06:07
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As the Donald has repeatedly asked us to, we might want to buckle up and enjoy the ride. That Trump can deliver a serious rant against intolerance constitutes comedy of the highest order, not that he could understand that.

Isn't there some sort of National Book Week?

Google is your friend: 23 August: World Book Day, and something to look forward to. I will enjoy Donald Trump telling us then how well he likes to read. That or else boasting yet again about having written numerous books, first among them The Art of the Deal. Do that in a tweet, Donald, one with several simple words spelt wrong.

Here's a pweview:
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Old 20th Feb 2019, 02:30
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post
As the Donald has repeatedly asked us to, we might want to buckle up and enjoy the ride.
I fear that a key national asset, our collection of stand up comedians, are going to lose their edge and have their comedic muscles atrophy. He nearly writes their material for them.

meadowrun The Mexican cartels have been setting up a 'safe zone' in Vail and Aspen for the last three years. They have the distribution network, and don't want to lose their profits by attracting attention of the DEA/Feds by having a turf war in that rich profit center in Colorado.
Source: buddy of mine who has had a condo in the area (IIRC Breckenridge) for the past 25 years. He and his wife go there in the summer and get to enjoy a bit of dope these days while on vacation. He also knows a variety of people in the business up there through being in land deals/real estate deals. (It's a side hobby of his that makes him rich, his origional profession is dentist).
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 10:59
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I've spent 93 seconds and developed an aide de memoire for those still having difficulties dealing with and maintaining sanity in the trumpworld,
based on the old story "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" and a wall emergency down Mexico way..

Donald "Lupo" Trump.
"Lie Until Proven Otherwise"

There's a journalist who started putting a gumball in a jar every time trump lied (proven lie) in public.
He now has a shelf full of jars...........................big shelf........................really big shelf.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 15:20
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Maybe your "journalist" with the gumball jars should remove one every time someone who didn't have a job reports to his new employment.

After all "context" is what reporters do these days, according to JB. But then, I expect that in your mind, improved jobs and economic progress are simply residuals from the Glorious Admnistration.
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 19:04
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Maybe your "journalist" with the gumball jars should remove one every time someone who didn't have a job reports to his new employment.

After all "context" is what reporters do these days, according to JB. But then, I expect that in your mind, improved jobs and economic progress are simply residuals from the Glorious Admnistration.
You don’t even see the irony in what you’ve just written, do you? You and your fellow Trumpanzees keep reciting labour figures as if Trump has performed some sort of economic miracle. Yet a look at even the most basis figures would suggest which President you should be thanking...




I bet you won’t though
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Old 22nd Feb 2019, 19:32
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At least you're consistent, Hempy.
I'm don't quite understand your need to debate using insulting terms for anyone who might differ in their opinion, but then, perhaps I was raised differently.
Who was it again in office when there was that big spike in unemployment on your chart?
And, by your charts, George W was the best president in recent history! Did you say that at the time? Did you bemoan the loss of Bush's great economy while you worshiped at the prospect of his successor?
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 04:04
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OB, there is another way of looking at Trump's boasts about the economy. That would be to argue that his numbers are not the main problem with Trump, just as they were not with Hitler. (Hitler boasted that he would put Germans back to work after the Great Depression. He did, he did, but the problem turned out to be what he had them working at.)

Many people have been telling me that they would rank George W. Bush as better than Donald Trump, but Donald Trump as, so far, only a bit better than Adolf Hitler.

That North Korean nuclear attack on Baltimore, Maryland in late 2032 will tend to make later historians downgrade the overall quality of the period we spent under the Trumps, although his loyalists will still point to Donald Trump's economic numbers to argue that, taken as a whole, he had been a somewhat better national leader than Hitler, and much better than his successors, President Donald Trump, Jr. and his VP, later President himself, Eric Trump, since that is the period referred to as the New Dark Ages. The tragic death of Ivanka Trump in that blimp crash represents one of those "It might have been," things, much as Chappaquiddick had been for liberal believers in the Kennedys: the loss of the chosen successor.

Trump's debatable numbers are a pretty thin thread to hang by, arguing that he is making a success of his period of rule. It's a sort of "Hey, look over there!" when we are looking at a dumpster fire right over here. We certainly would see many people (including not a few illegals, I bet) put to work building the Great Wall of Trump, for example, but would that make his Wall one of Trump's rare good ideas because it boosted employment? No, this new Great Wall would still be a relatively useless money pit. (In fact, even Wall A, the one Mexico would pay for, would still be a really terrible idea, the sort of idea a not-very-bright child would come up with as a way of enhancing border security. Next, a really, really long snorkel so that skin-divers can visit the Titanic.)
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 04:24
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Originally Posted by obgraham View Post
Maybe your "journalist" with the gumball jars should remove one every time someone who didn't have a job reports to his new employment.

After all "context" is what reporters do these days, according to JB. But then, I expect that in your mind, improved jobs and economic progress are simply residuals from the Glorious Admnistration.
From the outside it appears that you have the same media bias that Australia suffers. This of course is to be expected due to the education that journalists have.
Politically it has become encumbent on the left to increase the numbers of those dependent on government largesse.
One of the ways to achieve this is by increasing illegal immigration and then allow those to become citizens.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 06:54
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You can't talk about education ....and then go on to misspell your words..... FFS ..... it unravels your argument faster than a Trump lie..
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 13:49
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That is so, but ....

Herr Fmong, you need to watch your grammar because you've one too many points in your ellipses. For a break in the middle you use three ... but for the end of a sentence you use three plus a full stop .... So when you are writing, this one ... is followed by no caps, but this one marks the end .... That means you start the next sentence capitalized.

On the other hand, I agree 100% with what you have to say about watching the spelling. It is remarkable how Trump and those who subscribe to this nonsense about the left having some agenda to do with immigrants and their citizenship and/or their illegal votes seem to think that they are on the same level as educated people who happen not to buy into their nonsense. It is as if there is some sort of level of deeper knowledge, a knowledge that often expresses itself as incoherent cries, tweets as they are now called, that is more valid than the superficial knowledge of the better-educated. Then it must be so that poor spelling and scrappy grammar are signs of truth and true feelings, something coming from the heart. Actually it comes out of the arse, of course.

Trump: "I love the poorly-educated!" Yes, and no wonder since Trump himself is rather poorly educated, as shown by his disastrous spelling ability. God only knows what Trump was taught at "Wharton," when it certainly was not English 101.

"Tap," a word of just three letters, came out from the Donald as "tapp." Jesus wept. Then there is the way that Trump often, more often than not, simply babbles nowadays when he speaks in public. CNN has endless fun just publishing transcripts of his addresses, trying to make sense of them. That is quite aside from pointing out how full of obvious lies they are.

Yes, Trump is President (for now), because he won the election; and yes the economy is doing okay (for now), despite his love of tariffs and embargoes, but he still writes and speaks just like an ignoramus.

It's interesting, the two very different spokeswomen for Trump. There is Kellyanne Conway, skinny like a racing snake with a very quick, forked tongue. She just babbles on, running out the clock, at any interview she is given. She jumps from one nonsensical answer to the next, so that it's hard to catch her in a lie.

Then there is the Arkansas Lard Biscuit, dumpy Sarah Huckabee-Sanders. She looks like 75 kilos of fertilizer poured into a 50-kilo sack, topped with that droopy, grumpy face. She lumbers along, speaking in that cornpone accent to dish out lies and contumely in equal measure, when she gets away with that with a scowl and a "Next .... "

Trump seems to be happy with both of them. The one, he'd be afraid of coming away with splinters; the other one, he'd need to dust her down with flour first to find the wet spot. Melania must be happy with both.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:35
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Chuks

Point of curiosity. Is the label Arkansas Lard Biscuit or Arkansian Lard Biscuit? I know the difference is small and perhaps only euphonic, but it is one that merits our exactitude. Granted, she does look like something that could only be admired in a Prussian military barracks of 1870, but I thought we should strive for the most fitting appellation to describe her verisimilitude to a biscuit of lard.

As for Ms. Conway, that is simply too frightening to contemplate. One might be given to nightmares for weeks afterward.
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 17:44
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Did you guys have anything to say about the bodily structure of Stacey Abrams, the Democrat spokesperson after last week's SOTU?

Or do you reserve such insults for the Trump staff?
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Old 23rd Feb 2019, 18:55
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What a silly question!

I think I did once mention that Barack Hussein Obama seems to have married an alien, a Klingon ... otherwise I reserve the insults for Trump staff, of course. You can be sure, OB, that if the Hildebeest had won then we would probably try to fire off a few zingers in her general direction.

Anyone who chooses to live close to a glowing nuclear slag heap has to expect to be kidded about that sort of thing, right? You need to buy extra-large mousetraps, for those two-headed mice, amiright? (We'd be doing that sort of joke even if you had voted for Bernie Sanders. More, even!)

It's tough, thinking up ways to make fun of such as Steven Miller, he with the mobile hairline and the look of Vlad the Impaler with a hangover, but I think I am up for that.

Fred, I am just following conventional usage. We already have the "Arkansas toothpick," for example: https://www.google.com/search?q=imag...PG_lkKS3p6GaM:

We also have the Tennessee Walking Horse, the Oregon Trail, and the California Gold Rush, so that I think we are safe sticking with the Arkansas Lard Biscuit.

As far as that other thing goes, I think that beer goggles go a very, very long way in making up for any quibbles, assuming that one is in the market for some misadventure in the first place.

I am not that way inclined. For one thing, I have to eat with these hands. This is just me making a tasteless joke about a curious fact: Trump. this most horny yet least virile of modern Presidents, he who likes to judge all women by their looks, even his own daughter ... he sports a pair of the most unappealing femmes, and unappealing in two completely different directions.

Yes, dear reader, Trump has chosen a pair of grimmies who could only place second and third behind Irma Grese in a beauty contest to peddle his crazy lies to an increasingly resistant passel of surly reptiles. We may be underestimating the role that Melania plays in the choices Trump makes for certain positions.

Here she is, in a much better mood than Sarah Huckabee Sanders, our Irma: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irma_G...Irma_Grese.jpg

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Old 24th Feb 2019, 05:28
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Did you guys have anything to say about the bodily structure of Stacey Abrams, the Democrat spokesperson after last week's SOTU?

Or do you reserve such insults for the Trump staff?
Hi OB. I assume that I am included in the "you guys" group as I was, along with Chuks, remarking on the particularly porcine attributes of Ms. Sander's pulchritude...or lack thereof.

Unfortunately, or perhaps fortunately as the case might be, I do not know who Ms. Abrams is. I would like to think that we have built up enough goodwill and comity on this august forum that you would not wish upon me to have to sit and actually watch a SOTU. Seems to me that it is, irrespective of the party in power, one group pretending to be trained seals and applauding every second with slavish sycophancy. The party opposite just sits with grave miens and cries into its breakfast cereal.

There might be things that are more of a waste of time and less entertaining, but one must search for them.

I am not so cynical to dismiss the need fot government and politicians. They are needed and the process should be fought from every side while still respecting the process.. its messy, but it is critical. Seek the balance.

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