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Old 5th May 2015, 17:42
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Originally Posted by Fox3WheresMyBanana View Post
I recall Mary Barra, CEO for GM blaming all the ignition switch failure deaths on "corporate culture" , and therefore not her fault, but she would now fix it.

Checking back, I discovered that the Head of HR (and therefore responsible for corporate culture) at the time the cover-ups started was.........Mary Barra.
Fox, I disagree with this statement.
Head of HR (and therefore responsible for corporate culture)
Corproate culture emanates from the top leadership / top management and trickles down. Granted, some of it consists of informal norms that have momentum.
The Head of HR can have influence on Herzberg's Hygiene factors, but the cultural tone is established by the CEO and COO, and other senior management. (Most aren't into leadership, which is half the problem).

PS: y'all can keep Carly F. President by MBA was well established by GW Bush, and I can't say it impressed me.
Ben? He's got my support.
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Old 5th May 2015, 18:08
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I'm quoting her. The cover-ups continued when she was CEO. She can't have it both ways - she was responsible one way or the other.
Personally I think the Head of HR is the biggest single drag on any company.
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Old 5th May 2015, 18:37
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Originally Posted by Fox3WheresMyBanana View Post
I'm quoting her. The cover-ups continued when she was CEO. She can't have it both ways - she was responsible one way or the other.
Personally I think the Head of HR is the biggest single drag on any company.
1. What I disagreed with was your point in bold.
2. As to what's in red there, it seems that way, to be sure. In defense of HR, at least its purpose, there are reasons it has to exist.
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Old 5th May 2015, 18:49
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So Lonewolf, you do not support Carly because her experience was in business, not politics, foreign affairs, or demonstrated ability to run a winning campaign.

But you do support Ben, whose experience was in headcracking, not politics, foreign affairs, or demonstrated ability to run a winning campaign.

Hmmm.
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Old 5th May 2015, 19:18
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So Lonewolf, you do not support Carly because her experience was in business, not politics, foreign affairs, or demonstrated ability to run a winning campaign.
Actually, I believe that her value is overstated in the corporate world. I do believe she's smart enough to find smart people to run a campaign.
... chief executive officer of Hewlett-Packard from 1999 to 2005 when she was forced to resign.She has been described as one of the worst tech CEOs of all time.
Her great political achievement is that ... she lost to Barbara Boxer.
I suppose that I should support her, the high achieving gal from Austin, but I can't find it in me.
But you do support Ben, whose experience was in headcracking, not politics, foreign affairs, or demonstrated ability to run a winning campaign.
My support for Ben is the suggested VP. I expect that he'd be a quick study.

My other support for Ben is in the various essays and articles I have read by him. But as far as politics goes, he's more an outsider than not.
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:15
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We don't really disagree, Lonewolf. I think Ben Carson is one of our stellar public figures. I just don't think he has done anything to suggest he would be a good president, other than being an upright man with the courage of his convictions. We've gone down the road of the "outsider" and the "great life story" president, and it hasn't worked out.

Perhaps as VP candidate he would be able to gather some votes and help avoid the Hillapocalypse. That would certainly be a positive development. But the vicepresidency has not been a great training ground for presidents.
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:38
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I think Ben Carson is one of our stellar public figures. I just don't think he has done anything to suggest he would be a good president, other than being an upright man with the courage of his convictions.
Vulnerable, worse than Sarah Palin. This is from a GOP site...

Ben Carson Forgets Baltic States Are in NATO, Dates Islam to Before Christ in Flubbed Foreign Policy Interview
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Old 5th May 2015, 20:53
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Oh well, the GOP has always been their own worst enemy.
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Old 6th May 2015, 01:55
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C-P,

Well, some of the Jetblasters would like to vie for the title of GOP's Worst Enemy.

Best wishes for a quick recovery!

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I used to think a second tier candidate such as Carson would be the perfect VP candidate. Now, I would bet that John Kasich is on most everyone's dance card.
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I think the GoP could pull in quite a significant slice of the minority vote with a Rubio/Carson ticket. Even enough to win in 2016.

However, the questions that arise should that come to pass are:

- how many of the ultra conservative Republicans, particularly in the Midwest, would stay away on election day if the GoP fielded that same ticket?

- can the inner circle of the GoP top tier swallow their egos long enough to accept a Rubio/Carson ticket?

The second question is probably the biggest tripping point. History would suggest they can't. If history does repeat itself, they'll tear each other apart in the primaries and eventually pick who they see as the least bad candidate, (or the one who hasn't run out of money) and he (almost certainly HE) will be a rich, white middle aged protestant who'll go down to whomever the Democrats field, however bad that Democrat candidate is.

Pray to God that candidate isn't Hilary Clinton, if not for America's sake, but more for the sake of the rest of the Western world.
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Old 6th May 2015, 13:31
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Pray to God that candidate isn't Hilary Clinton, if not for America's sake, but more for the sake of the rest of the Western world.
For the Chinese, Hillary is a good choice.
I suspect that under a variety of guises, there are contribution coming from that corner.

For the GOP: they enjoy bashing each other enough to keep busy, so busy that they are likely to screw up 2016. Can't help themselves.
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Old 6th May 2015, 15:19
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The only possible ray of hope that the Republicans have is, that the Democrats are so locked in on their one trick pony, Hillary, and that there is so much crap coming out that even NBC is in triple overdrive trying to cover all of it up, if she falls, they've no one else.

Jim Webb, a person I could vote for, but that is about it for anyone serious.


By the way, I watched Bill Clinton be interviewed by NBC in Africa about all this coming out about the Clinton foundation and his defense you ask; "I'm Bill Clinton, you have to believe me, I need no facts, you will believe me."

Even the NBC reporter had a problem swallowing that answer.
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Old 6th May 2015, 15:24
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c-p wrote

By the way, I watched Bill Clinton be interviewed by NBC in Africa about all this coming out about the Clinton foundation and his defense you ask; "I'm Bill Clinton, you have to believe me, I need no facts, you will believe me."
Well that all depends on what is, is.
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Old 6th May 2015, 15:34
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In other political news, it appears that once a law or court case is settled, it isn't really over.
A hundred years ago, there was a dam built in California.
It supplies electricity (hydro power, green!) and water for about 2.5 million people.
Activists want the dam torn down. A suit has been filed. They've been at it since the 70's apparently, somehow forgetting that people matter.
The San Francisco Public Utilities Commission thinks the new suit is "baseless," spokesman Tyrone Jue said. He emphasized that the entire Hetch Hetchy system supplies water to about 7 percent of the state's population, and that reports have outlined costs of between $3 billion and $10 billion to take down the dam and restore the valley.
"The idea that you would be encouraging a study looking at draining the water supply for that number of people during California's worst drought doesn't make a lot of sense," Jue said.
California's water resource problem has been a running battle for years. Removing a source of water ... and filing the suit during a major draught ... strikes me as the perfect example of why environmental activists get a bad name. One of the academics, now in Utah, asserts that there are "other" water resources that can take up the slack.
I am not sure if he's aware of the water shortages in the state in question.
Two slightly different takes on this issue from two different news sources.
http://www.nbcnews.com/science/envir...immers-n354081

http://www.fresnobee.com/2015/04/21/...reservoir.html

And a different view of access to parks and nature areas.
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openfo...ch-5408444.php

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Old 6th May 2015, 15:48
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Con

I saw what you did there...


Mentioning Bill Clinton and swallowing together.
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Old 6th May 2015, 15:58
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For some interesting comments by Ben Carson see this:

Ben Carson to Newsmax: Tear Down the GOP Establishment
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Old 6th May 2015, 16:11
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Ah, wasteful water areas staking claim to downstream (and now upstream) water rights.

Atlanta has sucked the Appalachicola River nearly dry by virtue of draining the Flint & Chattahoochee, and is even now driving the last nails into the coffin of the 200 year old oyster industry in Appalachicola, Florida.

Georgia and Tennessee have been in a border dispute since 1732 over water rights to the Tennessee River, which entire course is outside of Georgia by about a mile.
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Old 6th May 2015, 17:42
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Ah, wasteful water areas staking claim to downstream (and now upstream) water rights.

Atlanta has sucked the Appalachicola River nearly dry by virtue of draining the Flint & Chattahoochee, and is even now driving the last nails into the coffin of the 200 year old oyster industry in Appalachicola, Florida.

Georgia and Tennessee have been in a border dispute since 1732 over water rights to the Tennessee River, which entire course is outside of Georgia by about a mile.
Indeed, and if you want a real mess, take a look at the Colorado River, Lake Meade, Hoover Damn, and the claims by 5 states and Mexico to various acre feet per year ... makes that thing up in SF look pretty silly, in terms of scale.
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Oklahoma springtime love call

is going off.

Tornado warning sirens are sounding, nothing near us, as usual, but south OKC, KOKC airport and KTIK (Tinker AFB) are getting hit. OU had a near miss, of course Moore got hit, as usual. There was one super cell tornado that was over five miles wide at one point when it was southwest of the metro area, mostly out in open country where there are little or no people, or structures.

So going to be a long night tonight, but so far all friends and family are safe and sound.
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