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Old 24th Jul 2018, 22:24
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...awww shucks now...

https://www.ctvnews.ca/business/ivan...down-1.4026023

...shoulda asked for some o' the money (billions) going to those ungrateful fri($$)en farmers...'cause fambly comes first...
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Old 24th Jul 2018, 22:39
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I don't know about this "Deep State" stuff -- smacks of the Illuminati and the Trilateral Commission. Maybe even SPECTRE, who knows.

However, clearly Washington is populated by a large number of upper level bureaucrats who survive all the changes of government, but pick and choose which political leadership they actively support. Since the Democrat Party is the one wishing ever-increasing expansion of the federal government, it should come as no surprise that top bureaucrats are heavily Democrat in their own leanings. There are plenty of polls and discussions confirming this, it's no new revelation.

Then along comes Trump, pledging to "clean the swamp". Well, these people are the swamp to which he refers, and they get their undies wedged when they see their nice jobs with a lot of added perks under threat.

Call it whatever you wish, the Beltway Crowd doesn't like being challenged.
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Old 24th Jul 2018, 23:28
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Get off Chuks, it's simply an expression, not investment advice. Being obtuse is why I rarely want to have a discussion here.

As for the how I know things, I don't spend my hours on CNN, and actually learn from investigation of other sources. I guess you've missed the 1000s of texts from Strozel and Page? Forgot that Lerner was allowed to retire from IRS after proof that she obstructed Republican groups from IRS tax law by slow walking their applications? Brennan shouting about treason, but you asked about knowing stuff, how does he know there is treason? And if he has some proof of treason, why isn't it in front of the DOJ or the AG for impeachment? He's all over the media like a plague, but as with everything else NO EVIDENCE.

As for Mueller, sounds to me like he's a beard for the left, wouldn't you say? He surely has a vested interest in his own continued employment. It's been two years, and he's got bupkis. Two guys caught with tax evasion and failure to file reports. Woohoo! Like I said already, for those who want remain obtuse, can't see anything but anger and frustration. Oh well.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 00:09
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Everything the guy touches appears to destroy the US infrastructure, trade and military, one does wonder who is pulling his chain
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 03:51
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It's been two years, and he's got bupkis. Two guys caught with tax evasion and failure to file reports.
More epic **FAILS** for EC.

14 months, not two years. You want to see "bupkis" for results? Try the Benghazi investigations.

Mueller's caught seven "guyz" - five have pleaded guilty already. To a variety of crimes.

George Papadopoulos - plead guilty to lying to FBI, sentencing pending while cooperating with Mueller's investigation.
Michael Flynn - plead guilty to lying to FBI, sentencing pending while cooperating with Mueller's investigation.
Paul Manafort - under indictment for conspiracy, money laundering, false statements to investigators, tax evasion, bank fraud - case goes to trial a week from now.
Rick Gates - plead guilty to false statements and conspiracy, sentencing pending while cooperating with Mueller's investigation.
Richard Pinedo - plead guilty to identity theft, sentencing pending while cooperating with Mueller's investigation.
Alex van der Zwaan - plead guilty to false statements. Imprisoned for 30 days, then deported.
Konstatin Kilimnik - "The guy from the GRU," charged with obstruction of Justice and witeness-tampering.

Including two who were more than just guys - when one was Trump's Campaign Manager, and another was National Security Advisor.
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Meanwhile, Conservatives will be happy to know their Economic Commissar, Donald "Maduro" Trump, has just:

- Alloted $12 billion in taxpayer money to help out farmers being damaged by his "good" trade and tariff wars. Only $37 per American, on average - but it depends on your tax bracket.
- Reinstated $10.4 billion in risk adjustments to keep Obamacare running - not taxpayer money, just enforced cash transfers from insurance businesses doing well out of ACA (fewer sick clients) to other insurers with larger expenses (sicker patients with "pre-existing conditions). "We're gonna let Obamacare fail succeed!"
- Weighed in on an anti-trust case yet again, criticizing the FCC for a decision in the Sinclair-Tribune merger (as he did in the CNN/Time-ATT merger).

Gotta love that Presidential interference in the marketplace. "Like a Soviet-type economy" - Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis.

Now sit back and watch the GOP Congress pass a joint Defense/Domestic spending bill this fall - should be juicy.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 05:33
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Jobs for the boys?

When I thought I had read just about every sort of nonsense ever postulated, along comes something new: Robert Mueller is dragging things out because he needs the work! "Beats working as a greeter for Walmart, leading this inquiry ... " is that it, the best you can come up with, EC?

As to this, "Being obtuse is why I rarely want to have a discussion here," I would counsel you, EC, not to be too hard on yourself. Being obtuse means that you fit right in with the rest of those who see nothing wrong with Trump, those who even think he's set to be one of our greatest Presidents ever.

Here, I just take words at their literal meaning, sentences at their literal sense. If someone wants to swap "council" for "counsel," if someone else literally tells us that he's obtuse, well, fine, but then we just need to say "Here's your sign."

It's not really a case of "it's simply an expression ... " because words do matter. Ever since the Late Stone Age we have been saying "I find you annoying," instead of delivering a smart smack across the forehead with a chunk of firewood; using words according to their specific meaning. Trump can't really threaten someone with "fire and fury," abuse him as "little rocket man," but then turn around to tell us that he has a great personal relationship with that same man. You have to be a special kind of stupid to accept that nonsense.

If this keeps up, we are going to run out of signs! Meanwhile, all you fans of Trump out there, wear your signs with pride. (If we run out of signs I suppose we can use those MAGA hats instead, since they have pretty much the same meaning.)
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 06:00
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Originally Posted by chuks View Post
"Why does Donald Trump shut his eyes while having sex?"

It's so that he can imagine he's masturbating.
Thanks for a fascinating glimpse behind the curtain.





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Old 25th Jul 2018, 06:28
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Curtains are so "yesterday."

There's no curtain! This is all out in plain sight.

After I made that last post I went for my dose of libtard weenie FAKE NEWS hatred of all that is right, sacred, and red, white, and blue from CNN. There's a tape being played where we can hear Donald Trump tell Michael Cohen, his "fixer,' to pay cash in order to sort out a little problem with Karen McDougal, a woman he had an affair with, an affair he was denying all knowledge of at the time of the taped conversation.

The best that Team Trump can come up with in response to this is lies about what's there plainly to be heard, Trump saying "cash," and pointing out that whatever this is, it is not a federal crime. Whew! What a relief that is! It's about like that time we heard that we now had an Attorney General who had not been convicted of any crimes. No, it's just the man who won the election lying to the electorate about what he'd been up to with yet another woman.

This poor man, Donald Trump ... women kept coming out of the woodwork to allege sexual assaults, adulterous affairs, secret payments of hush money in six-figure sums ... all fake, so that Trump was going to sue each and every one of them for slander, except that he never did, did he?

It is true that there's this legal thing called "discovery." Say that a Trump supporter sues me for naming him as "stupid." His doing that enables me to use discovery to publish the fact that he once wrote a letter to Pfizer complaining that packaging Preparation H in a tube very similar to the one holding toothpaste caused his gums to recede: proof positive of his stupidity. In the same way, for Trump to sue one of those women for slander enables her to publish the facts about his sexual misdeeds. Actually, now it's Trump himself who's being sued by one of those women, in a neat turn-around you really would not want to put in a cheap novel.

Anyway, there's no curtain; it's all right out there in the open. If you want to know about the Presidential schwanz, just go to Youtube to hear Trump himself tell us all about it.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 16:52
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Lemme get this straight, the President of the United States communicates a significant message to the leader of another country using TWITTER????
Donald J. [email protected]
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS! 5:24 AM - Jul 23, 2018
No kiddin', Twitter???? I mean Twitter? Has serious diplomacy come to this? Say it ain't so, Joe!
Mac, it is so, depressingly so, this Twitter fetish, but calling it serious diplomacy is a category error. It's a reality show.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 16:57
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Trump to VFW, 7/24/2018: "Just remember, what you are seeing and what you are reading is not what’s happening. Just stick with us, don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news."

George Orwell, 1984: "The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command."

Big (pudgy, orange) Brother.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 17:35
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"Evidence" I like that word. Ranting, raving, pointing, screaming, rioting, advocating violence against the right. Yup - some kinda evidence the left has going. Keep it up for a few more months. The people are fleeing the Dems like it's the Titanic.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 18:25
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An American attorney friend highlighted an amusing phrase that Mr. Trump used in his recorded chat with Mr. Cohen. He introduced a third party as a "friend of ours."

Said member of the bar described how in criminal trials over the years of orginized crime figures that this is the phrase of introduction of a made man to another. If the third party being introduced is not made, then the phrase is "a friend of mine."

Again, just coincidence he says, but the phraseology is rather amusing. When I asked if this is just something from the movies he laughed and said no, just read the court transcripts of submitted wiretap evidence (no thanks) to see how often this pops up.

Maybe just the argot of New York?

Quite frankly I would think that the Americans would be more concerned with things such as a multi-front trade war with China, the EU, Mexico, Canada, Japan, South Korea, and coming soon India. I am not sure if Gabon and The Gambia have fallen under his view yet but perhaps soon.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 18:36
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Originally Posted by Mac the Knife View Post
Lemme get this straight, the President of the United States communicates a significant message to the leader of another country using TWITTER????

Donald J. [email protected]
To Iranian President Rouhani: NEVER, EVER THREATEN THE UNITED STATES AGAIN OR YOU WILL SUFFER CONSEQUENCES THE LIKES OF WHICH FEW THROUGHOUT HISTORY HAVE EVER SUFFERED BEFORE. WE ARE NO LONGER A COUNTRY THAT WILL STAND FOR YOUR DEMENTED WORDS OF VIOLENCE & DEATH. BE CAUTIOUS! 5:24 AM - Jul 23, 2018


No kiddin', Twitter???? I mean Twitter? Has serious diplomacy come to this?

Say it ain't so, Joe!

Mac
Mac,

To think, not only all caps but he is conducting this serious diplomacy without using emojis in his text!
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 18:40
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Westcoast

"Who are his puppet masters?"

The ones that frog marched him back to the cameras to (badly) read a scripted statement completely reversing his position on Russia.

Anyone believing the nonsense about confusing “would and “wouldn’t” is very naive.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 18:45
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Originally Posted by ethicalconundrum View Post
Stay in the basement. Keep humming; 'aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm, aaaaahhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmm.' Have mommy send all your meals down, and reassure you that - 'there, there honey, things will be ok. Just your rest now, and have some nice warm soup'.

The rest of the nation is doing just fine. We're out working, and playing, and traveling, buying homes, investing in new cars and trucks. Gas prices are stable, no muslim terrorism in a while. Folks are going to water parks, and hiking and visiting the beach. But - y'all stay scared. Best way to go through life - frightened, whining, and victimized. Funny thing is - all this ranting but NO ONE is moving to Canada, Mexico, Caribbean, AU, new Zealand, etc. Better to just stay in your safe-space and cry.
oh dear, I’m not in a basement like a prepper! I’m out and about daily, working full-time plus. Also, continuing my volunteer work. I’m 65 years old so I’ve been around. I’m certainly no victim, I fight back. Ignorance scares me more than anything else. That’s been trump’s biggest hook, playing on fear and ignorance in his base.

The good news is, more is always revealed.

How do you explain the how and why the trump/Putin joint preser has been edited? I watched it live.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 19:33
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Originally Posted by Orange future View Post
Westcoast

"Who are his puppet masters?"

The ones that frog marched him back to the cameras to (badly) read a scripted statement completely reversing his position on Russia.

Anyone believing the nonsense about confusing “would and “wouldn’t” is very naive.
213 differing sanctions leveled against Russia, over 60 Russian spies booted, consulates closed, well over 100 military US exercises, many on Russia’s border, the top oligarchs are being penalized severely. Yes, that sounds like someone in Vlad’s pocket. Don’t allow yourself to be led by the media like a sheep. Dig a little and find Trump’s actions and the ones that his administration has continued from the Obama administration.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 21:51
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WC, is this the same Donald Trump who told the G7 that Russia should be let back in, the same Donald Trump who chose to believe Putin over the entirety of the US intelligence community? That's being tough on Russia?

Where does all this negativity about Trump being Putin's poodle come from if he is as you describe him, WC? I guess that's all fake news, same as how all those women who accused him of sex assaults were lying.

This is one seriously unlucky man, your Donald Trump! How is it that he's an absolute magnet for false accusations? Sex crim, Putin's poodle ... all slander, eh?
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 22:14
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West Coast, you mistake the shadow for the reality. Nothing of any real impact has been done.

On another thread one reply to my skepticism about the Scripals' was, "In other words the operation was engineered for impact on the UK, with the Skripals being mere pawns in the game?"

Yes, precisely. Although it could have been any Russian exile/refugee, Skripal lived conveniently close to Porton - quite enough to create an excellent "false-flag" confusion.

Putin is quite determined to recreate a powerful and dominant Russia out of the humiliating ashes of the USSR. His chief weapons are social media and the billions of "dirty" oligarch cash needing laundry by worldwide "money-washers" whose profits carry the intangible watermarks of "kompromat" potential.

He has polarised USA politics to an unprecedented extent, strengthened the Military/Industrial complex that Eisenhower warned of, created the bogeyman of the "Deep State" and given it all the FUD of the Illuminati, while fatally weakening the Republican Party who yet feel bound to him. The lethargic and chronically self-righteous Democrats never succeeded in establishing a rapport with the common man, while fielding a competent yet overweening candidate whose casual and overconfident campaign was set up for a fall. The subsequent damage to America is unprecedented and whether it will ever return to the politics of decency and inter-party give-and-take is impossible to say. Where the proud determination of those who once wrote, "We, the People" has gone I do not know.

A disparate NATO, whose troubles have been complicated by the EU's woes, and whose very raison d'ętre has seemed in doubt after the fall of the USSR, is in danger of fracture, fuelled not least by DJT's provocative remarks on the inequality of its members funding. The Fulda Gap is still there; and as witnessed by the annexation of the Crimea, Russia and it's restructured and modernised army have the will and capability to reoccupy as many of it's neighbors if it judges necessary. Without real American resolution, a weak, disunited and uncertain NATO will be brushed aside.

The EU, and Britain will be seriously injured by any Brexit, socially, financially and spiritually. This can be regarded as a triumph of Russian manipulation of Middle-Eastern and African conflicts to encourage EU emigration while stirring the European pot with covert support of Muslim extremists, right-wing parties and far-left fellow-travellers. The US/UK "special relationship" is long dead and an isolated Britain can forget about any US assistance.

Yes guys and gals, while you have all been fretting over your Facebook feeds and twittering about trivia, an intelligent, powerful and ruthless ruler has been hard at work. Mate in 5 moves I reckon.

Mac
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 22:41
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Spot on Mac. Very well said.
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 22:56
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Spot on Mac. Very well said.
Seconded.
Spot on.
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