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Old 7th Jun 2018, 20:28
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Actually I meant indulgence! Look it up!

After an excellent landing etc...
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 21:12
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Here in Germany we just finished with the "Luther Year" of 2017, the 500th anniversary of the protest against the sale of indulgences that kicked off the Protestant Reformation. (Luther most probably did not actually nail his theses to the door of the church; that's just a legend without much basis in fact, since that would have been something too confrontational for Luther to have done at the opening stage of what became the Reformation. He included them in a letter.)

If you haven't sinned, then you should not need an indulgence. In the same way, if you haven't done anything illegal, why should you be thinking about a pardon?

Isn't it interesting, the way that Trump and his crowd seem to assume that, yes, he's done something wrong, so that the only questions are about process. This complaining about a "perjury trap" ... why couldn't Trump just tell the plain truth in answer to anything he's asked about? Instead, in all of this, there's some sort of unspoken assumption that Trump's broken some laws, but that's okay because, hey ... Donald Trump!

It's a funny old world when the President of the USA is seen to be less credible than a porn actress. Trump's stories have shifted from having had no involvement whatsoever with Stormy Daniels to having paid her $130,000, while her story has been a rather consistent one of having had a one-night stand followed by various other encounters, along with, yes, a payment of $130,000 for her silence.

Whatever else went on, the money is a fact, and the idea that one pays that sort of money for nothing makes no sense at all. It's like looking at Trump having paid $25 million to settle his trouble with Trump University. There was no legal guilt attached to that, but in real terms, of course that payment showed that Trump was running a fake, a scam. One of the funniest things about that is that Trump and his supporters all like to present themselves as grounded in hard fact, in opposition to all those "head in the clouds" types, yet they are quite happy to ignore the plain facts of those sums having been paid.

I was interested to see a clip on the TV just now that featured Trump saying that he did not need much preparation for his meeting with Kim, that his attitude should suffice.

Perhaps Trump figures to hash things out on the golf course? He better watch out; Kim's daddy made 11 holes in one on his very first round of golf, to finish 38 under par after 18 holes. Beat that, Donald! (Trump is a documented cheat at golf, but not on that level.)
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 21:39
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Arizona police: sit down or we'll beat the crap out of you!

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Old 7th Jun 2018, 21:46
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This is probably not a case for the usual cry of "not enough guns - if he'd had a gun he'd have been able to defend himself"? - if he'd had a gun the police would, surely, simply have shot him dead instead of just beating him up?
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 22:54
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I like the little note on the screen, "Contains some violence".

Pleased to see that the Mesa Police Department is an equal opportunities organisation - a black cop is joining in the fun!
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Old 7th Jun 2018, 23:53
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I noticed that Iran has announced that it will start enriching uranium once again.

Tomorrow Mr. Trump will tell us allies to sod off. Shame as one thought that they could cobble together a strategy for the future re. China. Then it is off to Singapore to work his magic. No prep necessary for that. Charm will carry the day with Kim.

Lots on the plate.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 00:08
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Interesting what is going on with ZTE (read - China) and the US.
How many people have to say "threat to national security"?
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 07:06
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Encouraging signs that Trudeau & Macron will work together to have America thrown out of the G7.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 07:30
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Encouraging signs that Trudeau & Macron will work together to have America thrown out of the G7.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 07:39
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have America thrown out of the G7
???

Would be the stupidest move in this century.
Like ordering the tide to not come in.
As far as free Quebec goes - after living through a couple of decades of it myself, ........... gaze upon Quebec.
A somewhat hollowed out version of its former self.
Could have been great, especially with a Ford Fiasco in Ontario.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 08:44
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The US is not the problem, our current president is.

The G7 may have to wait two years until 2020, when Rump's™ racist rump is gone - unless the Republican Party grows a backbone and finds their lost moral compass - then it could be just a few months into 2019.

For the latter outcome, we would require a majority vote in the Senate to convict which would require a few good men in the GOP to vote their conscience.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 13:57
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Impeachment isn't going to happen and even if it did it the attempt would drag on well past the next election.

Instead of complaining about Trump (who I see has just cruised past 500 days in office - didn't that go quick) opponents should concentrate on having the people and policies in place to win next time. I see that Bernie is talking of standing again - is the US ready for an 80 year old President or shall they go for the youthful Joe Biden who will only be 78?. Otherwise there is always Oprah or Tom Hanks..
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 14:15
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Oh, puh-lease. What a bunch of bovine scatology. The combined GDP of France, Germany and Canada is less than half of the US. We import far more from them than we export. They are paper tigers. Merkel is an incompetent ideologue with visions of 'Deutchland uber alles'. And she has the effrontery to comment on 'America first'? Macron barely won his election, by as slim a margin as Trump. Do you think he has the cojones to rock the economic boat of France? Not on your sisters virginity. He's a place-holder, empty suit, and everyone one in the EU knows it. Merkel would twist the knife in his back in an instant. Worst case, they form a tri-lateral cabal to 'punish' the US(Trump, really). I say - bring it. Do your worst. Aside from real Champagne, what the hell does the US need from those three? Sure, the oil/gas industry would be affected. It would hurt both sides if there was any kind of embargo or restriction. Does Canada want to play that kind of game with the US? Don't forget Trudeau, this president has BALLS OF STEEL, as so many of the pundits here are overjoyed in pointing out. The G7 should be renamed. It should be the G1+6.

Trump is gaining steam against the Mueller investigation too. A lot more Americans are thinking that Mueller should generate some feces or get off the porcelain. His produce is spoiled, and now the rot is stinking up the place. Wolfe(sec director) indicted, Trump approval rating over 45%, DOJ being forced to turn over the campaign spy documents. It's all coming up 7s for this admin. Revel in it.

Edit: Breaking news, Trump announces support for Russia back in the economic summit known as 'G7'. That's gotta blow some heads off! Collusion! lolz.... But wait, wasn't Germany just found out doing back-door deals with Russia over trade? Nord Stream 2, right? Merkel is a cheap E German Hure. She would go down on anyone for a few DM. Hmmmmmm, Complete the quote; "Me thinks, thou...."

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Old 8th Jun 2018, 16:13
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I think it would be great if the US were to leave the G7, regardless of who suggests it.

What, pray tell, have these “meetings” accomplished, other than attracting hangers-on and polluting the earth?
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 19:27
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Scrappy grammar leads to confusion ....

"Don't forget Trudeau, this president has BALLS OF STEEL, as so many of the pundits here are overjoyed in pointing out."

OB, I guess that you were reminding Trudeau that Trump has BALLS OF STEEL? (What you literally told us there is not to forget Trudeau, "Don't forget Trudeau .... ")

Trump is on Propecia, OB, when one of its well-known side-effects can be a sort of chemical castration.

The poor man does come across as a sort of shouty eunuch, doesn't he? Trump's crude boasting, his disrespect of women, and his comical need to arm-wrestle instead of just shaking hands like a normal adult all hint powerfully as someone who's compensating for a basic lack of manhood. So much for Trump's BALLS OF STEEL. What matters more than the speculative state of his BALLS, though, is that he certainly does have SH*T FOR BRAINS!
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 19:36
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So, Chuks, as usual, you haven't really got an answer to my question, but simply divert it to your Trump dysphoria! What has the G-7, or G-8, or G-20, or whatever these get-togethers call themselves this month, actually accomplished?
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 19:53
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I'll bite.
Far more than Palestinian peace talks?

Better to keep G7 types talking than not.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 20:39
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You should pay more attention, Chuks, before you write this:
OB, I guess that you were reminding Trudeau that Trump has BALLS OF STEEL? (What you literally told us there is not to forget Trudeau, "Don't forget Trudeau .... ")
which did not come from me. I've had nothing to say about Trudeau for ages. In fact I don't even think about him at all. I don't think about Doctor Suess, either.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 20:46
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Originally Posted by meadowrun View Post
I'll bite.
Far more than Palestinian peace talks?

Better to keep G7 types talking than not.
Pretty much all of the G x number countries have taken each other to the WTO court for “unfair trade practices” multiple times, including under Obama’s presidency.

The only difference this time round is that all of the other Gx leaders have been put on notice, it’s going to be fair or it’s not going to happen.

Fair enough to me, I cannot find any reason for the US consumer to indirectly pay for another countries socialistic ideals and protection without them pulling their own weight, they don’t like that idea, been too comfy for too long.

And yes, all the Gx meetings are pretty mundane get togethers, or they used to be.
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Old 8th Jun 2018, 22:09
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The G meetings usually have the worlds biggest arms dealers meet first in the G8, G7.Then they meet again with their best customers in the G20 meetings .
Started at the height of the cold war , the meetings will become irrelevant once the shooting and hacking starts

Roll on the Zombie apocalypse
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