Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > PPRuNe Social > Jet Blast
Reload this Page >

US Politics Hamsterwheel v2.0

Jet Blast Topics that don't fit the other forums. Rules of Engagement apply.

US Politics Hamsterwheel v2.0

Reply

Old 9th Dec 2017, 17:28
  #10921 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ɐıןɐɹʇsn∀
Posts: 1,963
There once was a time when the office of the President of the United States was revered. What a sad state of affairs your country has become.
Hempy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 17:44
  #10922 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 65
Posts: 3,330
Were you around for Johnson’s administration? Nixon’s? Carter’s? Wilson’s? Harding’s? It was ever thus. Which goes to my point, the USG must be severely reduced in size, influence and the President shrunk from “most powerful man in the world” to “administrator of small but worthwhile bureaucracy whose name I forgot”.

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 18:10
  #10923 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Canada/Malaysia
Age: 78
Posts: 94
Originally Posted by Turbine D View Post
BlankBox,

Exactly! And then he endorsed him, "The country needs Roy Moore in the Senate"!
..okey dokey....but just to be fair I tried again and...



...well shitsky thats a bummer... but guess ya can't win 'em all...
BlankBox is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 18:16
  #10924 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ɐıןɐɹʇsn∀
Posts: 1,963
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
Were you around for Johnson’s administration? Nixon’s? Carter’s? Wilson’s? Harding’s? It was ever thus. Which goes to my point, the USG must be severely reduced in size, influence and the President shrunk from “most powerful man in the world” to “administrator of small but worthwhile bureaucracy whose name I forgot”.

GF
Well in that case Trump is your man

Just don’t get your knickers in a twist when the rest of the world says ‘Ameriwho?’
Hempy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 20:00
  #10925 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 65
Posts: 3,330
Trump is hardly the man to drive the US to a small government future; lacks any philosophical coherence or drive.

It won’t be me in a twist at “Ameriwho”; it’ll be a Russian-Islam dominated EU incapable of resisting its destination as a ghost. How will a China dominated SEA sound in Australia?

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 20:50
  #10926 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ɐıןɐɹʇsn∀
Posts: 1,963
What do you care?
Hempy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 21:24
  #10927 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Florida
Posts: 4,851
What do you care?
may we use the same response when you post about the US ?

maybe I forgot that we are considered the leader of the free world and you are one of our subjects?
lomapaseo is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 21:30
  #10928 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 65
Posts: 3,330
I don’t, but as lomapaseo asks, why do you care to post here at all? If, as you erroneously pose, that I don’t care, why do you? Australia certainly can’t go it alone against a revanchist China, for argument’s sake. And, don’t think you can keep them away with appeasement.

GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 22:16
  #10929 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ɐıןɐɹʇsn∀
Posts: 1,963
Funnily enough, until Dubya, I believed in the United States. I believed that your country, whilst certainly serving its own means, was also the voice of freedom and democracy and the ‘will of the people’ throughout the world. America was the ‘white hat’, the voice of reason.

Bush changed all that by invading a sovereign nation for bullshit reasons, and then lied about it in front of the world. In doing so he caused untold damage to the global community and the ramifications exist to this day.

Obama, as much as you conservatives might disparage him, did much to restore the faith in the ‘goodness’ of the United States throughout the rest of the the civilised world. Regardless of his domestic policies, for which I know and care little, in the eyes of the rest of the world he had integrity as a leader fit for the office to which he was as elected.

And now you elect this clown. Accused of, and investigated over, collusion with a country the entire western world was essentially at war with for 45 years, run by a dictator as bad as any you have waged war against in the past. A man who, in 18 months, has inflamed tensions in regards to China, North Korea, and now the Middle East, to unparalleled levels.

So what do I care? I care about the future of the world. By all means America, withdraw from the global community if that is your desire. But do it properly, and make sure you don’t ask for anyone elses help in the future if that’s the case (coalition of the willing anyone?). And if you do go down that path, accept it lock, stock and barrel and keep your noses out of anyone else’s business. Because anything else is blatant hypocrisy.
Hempy is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 23:00
  #10930 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: E.Wash State
Posts: 570
Enlighten me please, Hempy:

Just what specifically did Obama "do" that you and the rest of the world suddenly reversed course and gained faith in the goodness of America? I must have missed it. Or perhaps you enjoyed being lectured on how you should believe and think. And I recall a stream of foreign leaders complaining they did not know just where America stood on the issues of the day because the policy kept changing.

Well now we have a guy who is not going to tell you how to think, but is rapidly improving Americans' own wellbeing, and maybe even laying the groundwork for resolving some of those issues of the day. He's not very subtle about it, and is doing end runs around the ways things have been done for years. Let's just see where we get to in three or seven more years.
obgraham is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 9th Dec 2017, 23:14
  #10931 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 65
Posts: 3,330
Yes, how nice the world would be if, just, Saddam Hussein were still in power, Hempy? Unhorse got a nasty dictator is our the “original sin” that makes America worthless. Sorry, but America hasn’t changed, just your opinion of it.

You only care that America, for reasons known only to you, should meet your standards. And, apparently, you don’t much like democracy, as all three of these leaders were voted in by rules of the constitution.

GF

Last edited by galaxy flyer; 9th Dec 2017 at 23:42.
galaxy flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 11:56
  #10932 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Deplorable but happy as a drunken Monkey!
Age: 69
Posts: 14,831
Fake News....tell me it ain't true!


Chuks will have to revert to using "Moby Dick" for his source of reference and even it is a fictional account but is openly acknowledged to be fiction unlike the American Media.

https://theintercept.com/2017/12/09/...what-happened/

Last edited by SASless; 10th Dec 2017 at 12:16.
SASless is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 14:09
  #10933 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Middle America
Age: 78
Posts: 1,115
Fake News....tell me it ain't true!
Speaking of fake news, this is making the circuit:

An Article By Charles Krauthammer

I do not understand how living in a country with its democracy established over 200 years ago, and now, for the first time in history, suddenly we have one of our former presidents set up a group called "Organizing for Action" (OFA).

OFA is 30,000+ strong and working to disrupt everything that our current president’s administration is trying to do. This organization goes against our Democracy, and it is an operation that will destroy our way of governing. It goes against our Constitution, our laws, and the processes established over 200 years ago. If it is allowed to proceed then we will be living in chaos very much like third world countries are run. What good is it to have an established government if it is not going to be respected and allowed to follow our laws?

If you had an army some 30,000 strong and a court system stacked over the decades with judges who would allow you to break the laws, how much damage could you do to a country? We are about to find out in America!

Our ex-president said he was going to stay involved through community organizing and speak out on the issues and that appears to be one post-administration promise he intends to keep. He has moved many of his administration's top dogs over to Organizing for Action.

OFA is behind the strategic and tactical implementation of the resistance to the Trump Administration that we are seeing across America, and politically active courts are providing the leverage for this revolution.

OFA is dedicated to organizing communities for "progressive" change. Its issues are gun control, socialist healthcare, abortion, sexual equality, climate change, and of course, immigration reform.

OFA members were propped up by the ex-president's message from the shadows: "Organizing is the building block of everything great we have accomplished Organizers around the country are fighting for change in their communities and OFA is one of the groups on the front lines. Commit to this work in 2017 and beyond."

OFA's website says it obtained its "digital" assets from the ex-president's re-election effort and that he inspired the movement. In short, it is the shadow government organization aimed at resisting and tearing down the Constitutional Republic we know as AMERICA.

Paul Sperry, writing for the New York Post, says, “The OFA will fight President Donald Trump at every turn of his presidency and the ex-president will command them from a bunker less than two miles from the White House."

Sperry writes that, “The ex-president is setting up a shadow government to sabotage the Trump administration through a network of non-profits led by OFA, which is growing its war chest (more than $40 million) and has some 250 offices nationwide. The OFA IRS filings, according to Sperry, indicate that the OFA has 32,525 (and growing) volunteers nationwide. The ex-president and his wife will oversee the operation from their home/ office in Washington DC.

Think about how this works.. For example: Trump issues an immigration executive order; the OFA signals for protests and statements from pro-immigrant groups; the ACLU lawyers file lawsuits in jurisdictions where activist judges obstruct the laws; volunteers are called to protest at airports and Congressional town hall meetings; the leftist media springs to action in support of these activities; the twitter sphere lights up with social media; and violence follows. All of this happens from the ex-president's signal that he is heartened by the protests.

If Barack Obama did not do enough to destroy this country in the 8 years he was in office, it appears his future plans are to destroy the foundation on which this country has operated on for the last 241 years.

If this does not scare you, then we are in worse trouble than you know.

So, do your part. You have read it, so at least share it with others so they will know what we are up against. We are losing our country and we are so compliant. We are becoming a "PERFECT TARGET" for our enemy!

Charles Krauthammer
Reality is: Charles has been in the hospital after post-operative surgery complications for 12 weeks and is now in a rehab facility to regain his strength. He did not write the article.
The above article attributed to Charles was actually penned by a Right Wing Christian journalist, Bill Wilson in February 2017 and had a different title.

The OFA is returning to the political scene to lead a voter registration drive ahead of the 2018 mid-term election, defending the ACA and promoting gun control legislation. They are unlikely to get directly involved in electoral campaigns.

The OFA did grow out of Obama's first presidential campaign and one can only imagine the worry for the Republican Trumpsters who are driving Bannon’s view of America going forward pushing party ahead of morality as in Alabama’s Roy Moore, "We need him in the US Senate"…
Turbine D is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 14:23
  #10934 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Where the Quaboag River flows, USA
Age: 65
Posts: 3,330
Another real bad Obama precedent—former president running a campaign to “protect” his legacy. In other news, gun control legislation is moving forward in the form of CCW reciprocity. Funny, “full faith and credit” applies to marriage, drivers license, 99% of laws but not gun laws. Also funny, the Left suddenly loves state rights.
GF
galaxy flyer is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 14:59
  #10935 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Germany
Age: 70
Posts: 1,550
Get it wrote ....

Never mind getting it right.

SASless, you are happy to write about lies or even honest mistakes uttered against Donald Trump, himself one of the biggest liars, if not the biggest, in recent history. (I think he outpaces the late Senator Joseph McCarthy and Roy Cohn put together.)

Part of this was a feeble jab involving my book, Moby-Dick, when you mistakenly gave its title as "Moby Dick." There you are, my boy, blowing off deep red steam about lies, mistakes, etc., when you can't even get something as simple as the title of my famous novel right. Well, SASless, "Jesus wept."

In your quest for absolute accuracy, truth, and justice, please take a few minutes to ponder the case of Donald J. Trump, all you Trumpions. It is he who persists in repeating lies, including some downright vicious ones, until he's convinced that they are true. Then they cease to be lies, to become "alternate facts," which seem to be okay with each of you: deplorables; semi-deplorables: and the merely good-hearted but inbred who are both dumb as a bag of hammers and mad as a box of frogs. (Place yourselves wherever you like upon this blasted heath, when I shall not mind.)
chuks is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 15:14
  #10936 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Deplorable but happy as a drunken Monkey!
Age: 69
Posts: 14,831
The Press, now known as the Media due to technological change, are granted special privileges and protection by our Constitution and subsequent Case Law.

That special treatment was based upon the Founding Father's notion that an informed public would be able to vote wisely in Elections and other matters.

That imposed a burden upon the Media....that being it they were supposed to be the purveyors of truth to the people and hold those in power accountable by their relaying accurate unbiased information to the folks.

Were they to return to those principles the country would be very well served.

They are free to editorialize but the burden upon them (the media) is they must clearly separate "news" and "opinion" and not intermingle the two offering opinion as fact.

I do wonder why you accuse me of being a Trump supporter.....as I have never pumped Trump here and have said several times he was not even my second or third choice of Candidate but after he became the Republican Nominee....I did vote for him as I shall never vote for a Clinton or Liberal Democrat.

You on the other hand wish to bang your drum about Trump's lies all the while ignoring the reality of the damage the media does by their lying.

Why is that Chuks?
SASless is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 15:36
  #10937 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Germany
Age: 70
Posts: 1,550
Out of the mouths of babes ....

"I do wonder why you accuse me of being a Trump supporter....

"I did vote for him .... "

SASless, someone who voted for Trump must be ipso facto a Trump supporter! Another thing is the way that you ignore the much greater damage that Donald Trump does with his lies. A reporter makes a mistake and the alt-right loses its mind. The President of the United States of America shows naked contempt for objective truth and that is, what, business as usual? Yeah, for such as SASless, but not for most of the rest of us. Get your mind around these simple facts and then we can discuss this further.

By the way, dear boy, in the middle of a sentence you only need three little dots to form an ellipsis. At the end of a sentence, you only need four, three again for the ellipsis and one more for the period or full stop. You are wasting valuable energy by typing lots of unnecessary dots, energy you could have used to look up the title of my book and then render it correctly as Moby-Dick.

Next we shall attempt to show you the use of the semi-colon, and after that the big one, the subjunctive mood.

By the time I am through with you there shall appear a "Feel the Bern!" sticker on the back of your pickup truck.

Last edited by chuks; 10th Dec 2017 at 15:47.
chuks is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 16:31
  #10938 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: "Deplorable but happy as a drunken Monkey!
Age: 69
Posts: 14,831
Chuks,

Hope springs eternal they say.

Do not hold your breath while you try to sway me from my rejection of the Leftist/Progressive Agenda.

Cause, dear boy, that just isn't going to happen.
SASless is online now  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 18:24
  #10939 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Germany
Age: 70
Posts: 1,550
Yes, and bed springs creak. So?
chuks is offline  
Reply With Quote
Old 10th Dec 2017, 21:37
  #10940 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: ɐıןɐɹʇsn∀
Posts: 1,963
Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
Yes, how nice the world would be if, just, Saddam Hussein were still in power, Hempy?
Let’s ask your man...

Trump: World would be better if Saddam was still in power
Hempy is offline  
Reply With Quote

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us Archive Advertising Cookie Policy Privacy Statement Terms of Service