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Old 20th Mar 2017, 20:30
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Rev,

Are you talking to yourself?
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 02:20
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It looks like someone is about to lose the confidence of his boss and hear that famous catch phrase . I would guess by this Friday.
The swamp is getting drained again.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 15:43
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Rested and ready...

Hillary has cleaned house, is shopping for a plane, has a new hairstyle, and has boatloads of cash....

Special Election, anyone?

When there are no facts available, anywhere, the slickest most resourced project succeeds.

Comey? Bizarre. He releases trash that cripples Hillary's campaign, then attacks his own data, then releases again...then publishes a letter that looks like she will be indicted...

He claims there is nothing to the "wiretap" claim, but admits Trump and his people have been under investigation since July, 2016....

The leakers will be found, pilloried and in Lerner's case, perhaps jailed.

Hillary may be a turd, but she has chutzpah... In the final final, who inherits the cheese? Queen Rat...

Film at eleven....
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 17:10
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Concurs77

He claims there is nothing to the "wiretap" claim, but admits Trump and his people have been under investigation since July, 2016....

The leakers will be found, pilloried and in Lerner's case, perhaps jailed
Have you lost your grip on reality? Trump is back-pedalling faster than a French armoured division, all the while attempting to deflect the narrative away from his alleged associations with mother Russia.
It is inherently SENSIBLE that a potential future president would have had some measure of scrutiny applied to him and his people...it's how the system works. You appear to not get the inference or the irony of the situation such as it is. Maybe Vlad and his bunch of merry Ivan's have helped to make America great again...but then again, maybe not?
BTW, don't try to deflect.....answer the question.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 17:43
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I believe I'm beginning to see the overall thematic operation at work in US politics. Nearly the entire structure of the vast Korbal of fed workers are threatened. Not directly threatened, as they have a sinecure on their jobs, but they see the new prez as being a threat to their power structure. He came is as a whirlwind, mistakes and all - but has shown remarkable effectiveness when he sets his sights on a goal(cost reduction, immigration enforcement, jobs, etc). These are real, tangible results, and most if not all of it is being accomplished not with the help of the vast bureaucracies, but in spite of them.

It would appear that the thrust and effort of the left is to keep the admin focused on the minutia of ways and means to shunt or deflect the admin from it's stated policy goals. The method is to use every lever, every mode, and every syllable available to them to derail the new prez efforts.

Please note, that I'm not indicating that the admin hasn't made its share of mistakes along the way. Also, the prez is not perfect, not even remotely flawless. He's got his share of baggage that is true of any exec in my lifetime. I cast my first vote as an adult for Nixon. Oh well, look how that turned out!

It's a foregone conclusion that other countries would have an interest in controlling, or directing, or even influencing the US election. Russia is not monolithic by a long shot, and there were certainly factions in the various levels of Russian govt that approved of each US party. Now that the election is behind us, and the threat from the new admin is real, and tangible to the US infrastructure, the infrastructure is fighting back to regain some semblance of power. I think this can be seen in the various depts of fedguv where the un-elected 'crats are losing their base control and it must be frustrating.

I think the real issue is whether someone in the US campaign of either side colluded with foreign agents. No matter the party, I want to know this, and just like Watergate, I want to know who knew what, and when they knew it. I believe it's entirely possible that people in EACH party had communication with various factions in the Russian power structure. We are certainly focusing on one party, and that's a shame, as it shows a clear bias. If we are going to grill people about their collusion with a foreign power, then lets do the job right, and look at everyone.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 18:09
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KenV: resurrecting the gun debate ? Why ?
Ummmm, clearly not. Just noting that we yanks don't give a rat's behind that some folks on the wrong side of the pond go apoplectic that we view gun ownership to be a civil right.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 18:13
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Comey is too smart by far.

He did his backflips, double talk and tap dance about Hillary and spoke for Lynch.

Then he says we don't discuss or admit inevestigation except in rare situations where the public interest makes it appropriate....yes there is no evidence to prove the FBI wiretapped Trump....but yes we are investigating Trump etc all and the Russians. Are we investigating the leaks and unmasking of Mike Flynn....all of which are very serious Felonies and violations of Espionage Statutes......no comment!

Seems the guy cannot make up his mind about things......he damn sure doesn't know the Statute re Compromise of classified material and Intent!
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 18:51
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That's fine with us - we appreciate that all that colonial in-breeding is bound to make intelligence a rare commodity, and so your insistence on that right is simply a demonstration of Darwin's postulated principle of Natural Selection.

Nature is dispassionate and unforgiving.

PDR
As far as put-downs go, thats the best Ive seen in a good while
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:24
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Yes very true.....but with the leavening of the gene pool starting with the Allied Invasion during WWII and Cold War Years supplemented with the influx of Arabs, Slavs, Muslims, and Africans....the U.K. Has seen improvements over the decades.

Now that you have Coca Cola, Budweiser, and McDonalds....you can rest easy in your imagined superiority!






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As far as put-downs go, thats the best Ive seen in a good while
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:29
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Comey

Before he was a household word, Comey was well respected by both sides, known as a straight shooter.

Do any of you Brits understand the stones it takes to challenge the Clinton machine? He came very close to recommending she be indicted, read his release. Til the last seconds, I thought he would certainly send up the information to DOJ, which by the way had a recused AG at the time, see Clinton/Lynch secret meeting. Nobody expected him to take such a risk, to career, and frankly, life and limb.

He still appears to be a truthful Director; if he was a game player, he would have the public presence of Clapper, a dyed in the wool tool, and liar, demonstrated...instead, he looks stressed, the result of doing the right thing?

So, why all the hoopla? Every day the public is treated to the Russky circus, and tweets, is a day Hillary Clinton is unscathed, and not in jail. it also prevents Congress from doing anything of note. Not that that is difficult.

Comey has all the cards. What you are watching is a passion play, an honest man in the crosshairs...

Comey is in serious danger.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 19:52
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Originally Posted by Concours77 View Post
Before he was a household word, Comey was well respected by both sides, known as a straight shooter.


Comey is in serious danger.
Sir, with respect, aside from these two statements I must strongly disagree with the rest of your commentary. Anyone who plays both ends against the middle, particularly in the game of power elite has lost my confidence. At no time in recent history has the FBI garnered the respect and support of the US population since they cleaned up Chicago back in the 20s. At one time, they crowed about their involvement in the Watergate investigation until it was discovered that without Mark Clark(FBI agent at the time of Watergate) giving inside info to the media, there would be no investigation!

AFAIC, the FBI couldn't find water if they were pushed out of a boat. Their record of incompetence in recent events is only exceeded by their poor display of partisanship, and Comey appears to be one of the more manipulative slimes since J Edgar.

As for him being in danger, that needs qualification as well. He is NOT a political appointee. He is term served officer of the court for 10 years from 2013, and is not subject to removal except for cause(impeachment, kind of cause). Since the reporting structure change in 2004(another huge mistake), he's insulated well from any repercussions on his job duties. The current director shows the worst of the problems with the 'crat mentality infrastructure in the US. If you, or I were to screw the pooch this bad in private business we would be out on our ear in a matter of days, with no parachute.
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Old 21st Mar 2017, 23:19
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The professor who has correctly predicted every presidential election since 1984 — including Donald Trump's unexpected victory — is now writing a book on what he says is Trump's imminent impeachment.
Amen. The guy is Allan Lichtman, a professor at American University, who has used a set of keys to accurately predict every presidential election for more than 30 years.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 00:08
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ethicalconundrum:
Comey was, and is, in an impossible positiion. he went public with his statement about how bad Clinton handled her email, ("extremely reckless"), but was compelled to stop short of recommending indictment. He got his two cents in, but rather than screwing up the election, he made no recommendation. Out of character for the FBI to make public the determination, so I think he wanted to at least partially "honor" his duty. He is a wicked smart lawyer, and his public persona shows extreme unease, because he is out of his power zone.


virginblue:
Trump won't make it to the next election, but I don't think he'll be impeached. I think he'll resign. He is in way over his head.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 00:51
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Originally Posted by Concours77 View Post
ethicalconundrum:
Comey was, and is, in an impossible position. he went public with his statement about how bad Clinton handled her email, ("extremely reckless"), but was compelled to stop short of recommending indictment. He got his two cents in, but rather than screwing up the election, he made no recommendation. Out of character for the FBI to make public the determination, so I think he wanted to at least partially "honor" his duty. He is a wicked smart lawyer, and his public persona shows extreme unease, because he is out of his power zone.
But - WHY did he stop short of recommending indictment? Who does the Dir of FBI work for? Can't you see? The admitted and confessed liar J Clapper was his boss. Every time the FBI gets close to making a case against someone from the left, Clapper(mr liar) steps in and shuts it down. Was pretty clear once Slick Willy stopped and chatted with the AG in PHX. The boy was stage managed like Pinocchio. Rather than have a spine, and do the right thing he wishy, then he washied and his only redeeming thought was 'how can I best keep MY job, depending on who wins?'

Nothing will come of this investigation by the FBI into the Trump campaign. He's on a new leash, and as we say heah in the south - 'that dog won't hunt'. He and the rest of the upper crust at FBI have been neutered by politics. Look up the law from 04 which came about by 9/11, and put the FBI dir under political control. I forgot the name of it.

The FBI as an effecting watchdog on the political scene is now worthless. So is the AG, and particularly now that BO signed the order expanding the intel feed to basically anyone that wants it from the NSA, down to the lowest podunk sheriff who asks for it. Coupled with the Clapper lie that the intel comm doesn't spy in or on US citizens(outed by Snowden), turns the whole intel community into a whip by the political opportunist of the day. (any party)

To put it bluntly, nothing of substance at high levels of power can get done because the FBI is TOLD which trail of cheese they should follow, and which trail to ignore. We are seeing that played out to great effect since about March/April of 2013 when Comey decided he was for sale to the highest(political) bidder. The guy has less spine that Romney had in 2012.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 05:17
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I disagree, Concours. It doesn't matter whether Trump is over or under his head.

If the economy picks up, he'll be reelected.
If there is a terrorist attack that he isn't responsible for, he'll be reelected.

All else is just baloney.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 14:52
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projection based on status

we see a 'new' iteration of the bureaucracy. The Progressive Left have always owned the Press, anything that can happen by influencing the electorate will.

We have begun to see the Fifth Branch of Federal Politics, the entrenched lifers in the system whose lethargy, intrigue, and rumour mongering can create new realities out of otherwise straightforward and traditional policy matters and actions.

there was, and remains, a mutiny in the ranks of the FBI. Intelligence agencies, likewise, have had a taste of authority without responsibility, and it is growing, not waning.

One cannot know the precise outcome, but it is instructive how much power the Democrat Party retains, without a single majority in the governance.

The long view has the bureaus making huge gains in power, in an arena known for lethargic and cynical laziness to begin with...

The quiet buzz, unauthenticated at this point, has thousands of arrests, including John Podesta's occurring related to the child sex ring attributed to Podesta.

what we are seeing at present is an orchestrated subterfuge of distraction, meant to keep eyes off the next and likely very repellant scandal, DNC style.

Manafort's admissions of Russian bribes will add to the flames Trump feels at his heels. They want him out, and they have enormous power, and will.

God help our Nation.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 15:50
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WASHINGTON (AP) ó President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests.
Most recently Comey, now this. Noose is tightening on the puppet Trump and his handlers. Not too early to roll out the "I" word.
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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 15:57
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It won't happen before Jan 2019, if then. Let's see, Comey is now admitting that he was investigating political opponents during the campaign, illegally intercepting communications thru domestic intelligence (Flynn was "tapped"--proven, so we can guess the entire
Trump organization was, too) and the Dems and MSM are all, "nothing to see here, move along".

As to Watergate, Felt believed he should have been director and the whole Deep Throat deal wasn't whistleblowing, it was revenge.

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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 17:59
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The bold not so truthful assertion

Galaxy Flyer:

"It won't happen before Jan 2019, if then. Let's see, Comey is now admitting that he was investigating political opponents during the campaign, illegally intercepting communications thru domestic intelligence (Flynn was "tapped"--proven, so we can guess the entire
Trump organization was, too) and the Dems and MSM are all, "nothing to see here, move along".

Refer to my previous report of Comey vehemently asserting, "..there was no wiretap..." It was "true", but only partially, because it inferred Trump et al was not being surveilled. Devon Nunez, US Congress, has stated that the campaign was being monitored, electronically, AFTER the election. Comey himself stated the Campaign was being investigated since lst July.

Clapper, same; his denial involved only "wiretap", and the script was written by the CIA. The CIA has owned the news distribution of the American landscape since Truman. It is the CIA that drives the American narrative, especially abroad... in thrall to the sacred cow of Globalism. Trump, Nationalist, is the enemy of the narrative...

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Old 22nd Mar 2017, 18:32
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Trump and his team have made a grave mistake in annunciating a pro Russia position. The true power in the US, namely defense contractors, bankers and the intelligence community will not permit things to unfold in this fashion.

And so the fabricated accusations against him have commenced.

Republican/Democrat. Itís just a slightly different color of the same branded jeans.

The real power beneath the surface is apolitical.

Great interview with a cold war warrior about how the empire is under threat.

https://youtu.be/vf3C0eP3D8g
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