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Old 20th Feb 2017, 14:43
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The Trump does not give in easily, I'll grant him that.

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Give the public a break - The FAKE NEWS media is trying to say that large scale immigration in Sweden is working out just beautifully. NOT!"

The Trump, making friends all over the world.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 14:48
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"I accomplished the most unexpected victory in Electoral history...."

Perhaps second to Truman maybe....but then in those days the News was primarily done by Newspapers and they had deadlines by which the Morning Lead Off Edition had to be put to bed in time to hit the News Stands and Front Porches.

All the Media had Hillary winning right up until about 3AM East Coast Time wasn't it?

I went to bed thinking he would win....but only learned of it for sure when I sat down with my Morning Coffee.



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Old 20th Feb 2017, 14:49
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Originally Posted by West Coast View Post
You're not helping your cause, the Gov of Calif ( Culbert Olson) and the AG (Francis Biddle) were both Democrats.



Warren, a Republican, nominated to the SCOTUS by a Republican. Not here to pile on the dems, just can't help myself when the deep thinkers here like sultan rant about Republicans, it's time to school him a little about how the Democratic Party was and still tries to divide people to achieve their goals. You can also rant on about me being wrong, but your fighting an uphill battle against history.
To blame FDR for not recognizing the benign nature of Japanese American citizens during a time of war, when blacks were still drinking from their own fountains, attending their segregated schools, and unwillingly giving their lives in service to their country in the cold quest for knowledge regarding a disease of the dick, where being white European was not enough, Italians and Irishmen were considered a caste below, to blame that president for the fear of a people from a land that just attacked your interests and sovereignty far from home, is to place such a burden of prescience of the arc of humanity on the man so as to elevate his being to that of a saint or prophet.

Turns out much of what FDR did was good for the country, internment notwithstanding. He was a product of his time, yet forward thinking in so many ways that helped lift us out of the Great Depression, both economically and spiritually. Blaming a 19th century man for things that by 20th century we should be well past is straw man's way out. No thanks.

If you know the history (or were paying attention earlier in this very thread) you would know the party platforms changed and many racists and white supremacists (KKK, alt-right, 'white nationalists' etc etc etc) came to the Republican Party with that switch starting during round about the 1960s, a little something called Civil Rights, and beginning in the 1980s, proven to be a thing by the Reagan campaign, and was one of the more contiguous voting blocks for team TrumPus.

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 15:10
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Originally Posted by SASless View Post
Perhaps it is more the listener that is at fault for that....as one must listen as well as hear!
Which bits? Inauguration crowd size, electoral numbers, Russia ties, misogyny, racism, sectarianism, or even something benign that was said in Trump's first sentence, only to be negated by the next one to come sputtering from his little mouth?

Perhaps ear wax removal or upgraded hearing aides would be the answer for folks that can really 'hear' Trump, when the rest of the logical seeing world perceives something entirely different and bogus. Or perhaps people are hearing what they want to hear - which is horse shite and hominy grits to any sane listener.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 15:15
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He was a product of his time, yet forward thinking in so many ways that helped lift us out of the Great Depression, both economically and spiritually.
You haven't read a history of the Depression, then. He did no such thing, read about the "depression within a Depression in 1937"; check out the various unpredictable economic intrusions FDR did which only exacerbated the depression. If FDR ended the depression, he did it by entering WW II.

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 15:19
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WPA was a hit and responsible for a great many public works projects that remain, enriching American society more than a half century later. TVA and the REP weren't too shabby either. Just a couple of his bigger hits among many smaller successes, among which was the greatest gift FDR gave of all - something team Trump seems decidedly bereft of, Hope.

There were so many programs and so many difficult circumstances, there is no way in hell FDR could have navigated the Great Depression with perfection. Meanwhile you defend the model of imperfection, Donald J (for Jackass?) Trump? Me thinks your argument is moot, GF.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 15:23
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Another great bit of aviation journalism.

"The revamped [sic] airliner will seat 330 passengers and hold 15 percent more cargo than another 787"
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 16:36
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Or perhaps people are hearing what they want to hear
You have a valid point

But another word for that is "leadership" just like FDRs Fire Side Chats in tough change-over (from a chicken in every pot) times.

IMO there is nothing wrong with the people and their enthusiasm anymore than when Obama had the pulpit.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 17:05
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To blame FDR for not recognizing the benign nature of Japanese American citizens during a time of war,
You're actually standing up for his actions. Either way, you can bloviate about it, but it's another example of dems being once again on the wrong side if history.

party platforms changed
in the 60s you say?

You really want to go there, either in platform or service to constituents? Which party did the KKK come from? Which party kept a klansman (Richard Byrd ) going strong right up till his death in 2010? The dems of course. The 60s you mention, about the time dems took over mayoral duties in the largest cities only to see their decline.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 17:55
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Maybe he could be a salesman for Boeing, I hear Sweden could be at the top of the list! Does he not realise that a lot of the components are built across the world, of course he doesn't because he is thick as pig s**t.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 18:08
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Turns out much of what FDR did was good for the country.....He was a product of his time, yet forward thinking in so many ways.
Hmmmm. Change "FDR" to "Hitler" or "Mussolini" or "Tojo" or "Stalin" or "Mao" or "Castro" or "Kim Jong-un" in the above phrase and it remains equally true. Not saying that FDR was remotely similar to those others, but I am pointing out that such apologia is meaningless.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 18:14
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Let's think about that statement a second....the Guy is worth several Billions of Dollars....flew around in a very posh Jet....has businesses in several countries....got elected President of the United States....and you think him thicker than pig shit. Really?


KenV,



How you defining "Good"? Between that list of folks....how many Human Beings died due to their "Good Deed doings?"
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 19:05
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Progressives are like slinkys, not good for much but fun to watch when throw down stairs.

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 20:03
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What is his plan on aviation?

Lets see....
He has no plan!
Much like when his dad got shamed by Congress and had to let little Donald take over as Boss of the empire , with money stolen from government and veterans!

The man could not even make money with a casino, how is that possible.

If invested by banks when he took over, he would be exactly twice as much worth as now.
Good at getting people fired and talking trash he is, just what the US need now?
If any of you Yankee Boys think for one second that the rest of the world is going to take any more BS from you lot, just forget it.

Donald BS Trump is not President of the US after 20 jan 2019, he will selfdestruct .
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 20:08
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Progressives are like slinkys, not good for much but fun to watch when throw down stairs.
You're giving a bad name to slinkys everywhere.
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 20:49
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FDR

Just another Father figure. Throwing borrowed money at problems, packing the Supreme Court, cheating on his wife, spending huge money on RailRoad One, etc.

And relishing the position all along. An egomaniac disguised as Santa Claus.

FDR, "Too big to Fail" and loving the "Bailout" called World War II....
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Old 20th Feb 2017, 22:48
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I challenge every Trump Basher that visits here and vents upon Trump's ties to Russia to read this HuffPo Article....every word of it....and consider what it has to say. You cannot challenge the Huffington Post as being a Right Wing Journal....as it surely is not.

Keywords: Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Clinton Foundation, FBI, Russia, Putin, Uranium, Millions of Dollars.

Lets do talk about Russian interference with American National Security.....but let's talk about it all shall we.


Yes, Cash Flowed to Clinton Foundation Amid U.S. Russian Uranium Deal | The Huffington Post

If Hillary had won the Election and the following information had been made public in the same fashion as Trump has been treated.....what would the Media and Trump Bashers be saying today?


http://observer.com/2016/04/panama-p...in-connection/

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Old 20th Feb 2017, 23:36
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Excellent discussion between Sam Harris and the conservative David Frum.

https://www.samharris.org/podcast/it...-all-cucks-now

For non U.S. residents I found this to be an excellent primer on the political landscape.

Definately a thinking man's glimpse at the question of why Vlad holds such a place of primacy in the thugocracy of today. I know I learned quite a bit.

Russia has dreamed ever since the end of world war 2 of severing Germany and Europe from the United States. Were it to do so, its influence would grow nearly without bound. Now it has the chance of doing so and Trump is the man to do it....maybe.

No one can seem to crack why The Donald is just so fond of the gent. Business? Blackmail?
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 00:28
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I challenge every Trump Basher that visits here and vents upon Trump's ties to Russia to read this HuffPo Article....every word of it....and consider what it has to say. You cannot challenge the Huffington Post as being a Right Wing Journal....as it surely is not.
I'll take that challenge. Do you consider the fact that the author (HA Goodman) has set up a You Tube shrine to vent his vitriolic loathing of Clinton might render him a tad biased?

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDB...yqt-FTNdkzFN-A

He can be as biased as he likes under the (current) First Amendment, but it's not exactly a balanced view is it? He has some sort of psychotic episode going on for Bernie and against Hilary and that's fine, about 50% of voters decided they didn't like Hilary either, but he will either need to up his meds or gets some solid ECT before he can be a reliable character witness for the Russian State apparatus.
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Old 21st Feb 2017, 00:40
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What matters is what he says being true, accurate, and verifiable.....even if coming from some point of view you do not agree with. It is the information that should be analyzed and considered....even if you think the author needs psycho-analyzing.

For sure he is right on one thing......the Media screwed the pooch due to their bias over the past decade or more staring with Dan Blather's infamous attempt to throw an Election and what followed since then.

All I have ever asked is for the Media to use a balanced scale and hold ALL parties to the exact same standard....which we clearly know has not been the case. Even the NY Times Public Editor called his own Paper out for that in print.

Perhaps a bit of self introspection might be in order here too.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/24/p...itor.html?_r=0
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