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Old 18th Feb 2017, 08:41   #6321 (permalink)
 
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The Press according to JFK

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 09:17   #6322 (permalink)
 
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Very thoughtful quote from jfk.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 11:26   #6323 (permalink)
 
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The only time I remember a sense of glory in American politics
was when Kennedy was elected.
There was a feeling that a new age had been embarked upon, with energy.
I don't remember that with Johnson, Nixon, Carter, Reagan, Bush(s), Clinton.
I remember that when told, in sixth grade gym class, the news,
All the girls cried and the boys were silent.
That was in Canada.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 12:58   #6324 (permalink)
 
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Mac,

Obama ran on being the Healer...the Bringer Together....then once elected he took every opportunity to divide the Races.

Think not...just go back over his embracing of Black Lives Matter, "Trayvon could be my Son if I had one.", "The Cambridge Police acted stupidly", his siding with dead Thugs shot by Police every time it happened, sending Representatives to dead Thugs Funerals but not to murdered Police Officers, etc.

Every President has the "Bully Pulpit" and if used properly can either divide or draw together this nation.

Did he do anything about there murder of Blacks by Blacks in Chicago....his adopted Home Town?

Did he put down Riots in Ferguson, Baltimore, Los Angeles or at least speak out against it?

He ordered the dropping of the Consent Decision against the New Black Panther Party, dined with Black Lives Matter, had Al Sharpton into the White House despite his owing over Four Million Dollars in back Taxes, the list just goes on and on.

He talked about the White Folks in Pennsylvania who cling to their Guns and Religion (Christians).

He played the Race Card as if that was the only Card in the Deck.

He promised to fix the US Immigration system....but did not make any serious attempt in the whole eight years he was in Office....even when at first the Democrats had an unstoppable majority in Congress.

To be the "First" Black President....he sure missed a wonderful opportunity to really improve Race Relations in this country by speaking for the poor who have to live in violent, drug ridden, urban locations where murder rates far exceed that of the casualty rate for our Military engaged in armed combat against organized forces in Iraq and Afghanistan.

That is why I consider him a Racist, a Fraud, and a Failure.

He was a Community Organizer and never rose to opportunity to actually do something for the Blacks in this Country that needed doing....telling the Race Baiters to shut up and do something to solve the problems not just make a good living stirring up more hate and division.....plainly because he was doing exactly the same even when in the White House.

At least Trump is talking about the problems and offering to do something about them....yet the Black Community, led by the same old tired bunch of Race Baiters, are refusing to accept that out reached hand.

Who is missing the real opportunity here.....Trump?

Who missed the opportunity....I firmly see Obama as having grossly missed the very opportunity the Blacks in this Country ever had. The first Black President and a Democrat controlled Congress....and what did they get from that?

You tell me!
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 13:56   #6325 (permalink)
 
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Somewhere in the White House...

"I see we have an inventory of ten thousand nuclear bombs".
"Yes sir".
"And we are paying, what, a trillion dollars a year building and maintaining them?"
"Yes sir".
"So what are we getting for all this money"?
"They ensure peace and stability sir".
"Okay, so how do they do that? How do we use them?"
"We can never use them sir, they are just there, just in case".
" So you are telling me that we are spending a trillion dollars a year on useless junk that we can never use"?
"Well, I wouldn't put it like that sir..."
"Listen, I'm a business man. If I have stock on the shelves and it isn't selling, do you know what I do? I go out there and sell, I discount, I get that product out into the market."
"I wouldn't advise that sir".
"We've got all that stuff just sitting around doing nothing. Hell I bet we don't even know if half the stuff still works. Bring me that briefcase over here, the football one".
"Er, sir...".
"Don't argue with me son. There, you're all fired!"
"But..."
"This is going to revitalise the world. We can build all new stuff and revitalise the economy, clear all the old garbage out of the way. Full employment, no migrants, everything built in the USA. I'm just a business man and let me tell you, I know how to do business and get things done fast."
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:19   #6326 (permalink)
 
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Now there is an idea....but seriously speaking...did we not have a similar situation following the demise of the USSR?

There was a great fear some of their suddenly surplus Nukes might find their way onto the Black Market.

For a lot of reasons that did not happen.

That Football thing can issue the authorization...but cannot actually launch the a weapon.

There is no way the President...any President can just snap his fingers....or just snap....and carry out a First Strike using Nuclear Weapons.

The Secretary of Defense can act as a Time Delay that will allow for a confirmation of the need for the Launch.

This is the stuff for movie plots.

Think back to how close we came to Nuclear War with the Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis....and that was real...very real!

The Soviets and the Americans took measures to improve security after that.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:40   #6327 (permalink)
 
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To whomever typed this I think his first name's Rahm.

As to VADM Harward declining the offer ... well crap, that was always going to be the problem with a President Trump. Who wants to work for that guy? I can see VADM H doing an analysis of the terrain he'd be operating in, regarding such folks as Bannon, and making a decision to not engage on ground not of his own choosing.


We lost a good one there. (Further comments censored ...)
So a wrongly typed first name by me, yet you made the connection, negates all the shooting deaths in Chicago under his watch, utterly amazing.
I'm sure all the family's that have lost loved ones really don't give a damn what his first name is.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:56   #6328 (permalink)
 
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valilot2004,

The concept of "checks and balances" fails completely to influence the "administrative state, aka "deep state". The bureaucracy is very nearly unaffected by any check. Originally, as the bureaucracy grew, the courts paid deference to the executive branch over the facts of a case, but with the Chevron case, the courts give the executive not only control over the facts but also over the law as passed by Congress. The SCOTUS held that the agencies could determine what the law was and the facts of a regulatory case would be judged.

With 29 years in the World's a Greatest Bureaucracy, I can attest few senior or middle level bureaucrats could care what a Congressman or a Senator thinks or requests. I once told Sen Kerry's (D-PDRMA) military advisor to pound sand over the Senator's sudden interest in a constituent that I was about to remove wings from. Congress has little real power to oversee a bureaucracy of 800,000 on a daily basis. With only two elected officials in the executive branch, the bureaucracy takes the time-honored tradition of "they'll be gone and we will still be here", meaning they ain't budging for any mere political appointee.

Next up, conspiracy theory and why I don't think Talbot is all that far off. Mark Felt believed he should have been appointed director upon J. Edgar Hoover's death. He wasn't as we all know, L. Patrick Gray was. Felt continued to approve FBI break-ins of domestic terrorist groups like the Weather Underground, all the while acting on "conscious" by leaking to Bob Woodward the goods in Nixon as "Deep Throat". He was wronged and instead of acting honorably was dishonorable in revenge. Any doubt he would have never dialed Woodward if he got what he wanted? Not here.

The bureaucracy acts in its own interest--greed is inherent in the human condition. Public choice theory--build an empire, get promoted, be somebody is the ONLY incentive in the US Government.

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See it everywhere, every day.

The good ones that want to make a difference just rollover, and the band plays on.

Sad but amusing to watch when Flag Officers arrive for their command ticket stamping.
All departments nodding heads, agreeing with every utterance.
Behind the back, this is the umpteenth one, take em 6 - 9 months to figure things out, 6 months to try to implement, then new posting arrives and hey presto, 2 years gone by, nothing changed, here comes the next one, ad inifinitum.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:01   #6329 (permalink)
 
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Now there is an idea....but seriously speaking...did we not have a similar situation following the demise of the USSR?

There was a great fear some of their suddenly surplus Nukes might find their way onto the Black Market.

For a lot of reasons that did not happen.

That Football thing can issue the authorization...but cannot actually launch the a weapon.

There is no way the President...any President can just snap his fingers....or just snap....and carry out a First Strike using Nuclear Weapons.

The Secretary of Defense can act as a Time Delay that will allow for a confirmation of the need for the Launch.

This is the stuff for movie plots.

Think back to how close we came to Nuclear War with the Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis....and that was real...very real!

The Soviets and the Americans took measures to improve security after that.
Check out online when Bill's quarterback was left behind, all on his lonesome, holding the ball.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:22   #6330 (permalink)
 
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Obama had a good plan to ensure Trump could not somehow go Rogue and confuse the Football Key Pad with his iPhone in a rage over some imagined slight and his need to make a hurried Tweet in response.

Obama Plans to Take Nuclear Launch Codes with Him When He Leaves Office - The New Yorker
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:58   #6331 (permalink)
 
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What Happened to Making America Great

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While President Donald Trump rails against immigrants and foreign workers taking away American jobs, the Trump Vineyard Estates has filed yet another request for visas for foreign farm workers at its Virginia winery
The great liar is hiring foreigners to work his plantation for $11.27 an hour. What a hypocrite. I am sure they wiil block workers to other wineries to monopolize the market with their Walmart grade product.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 16:04   #6332 (permalink)
 
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You are at least decades behind the history of immigration, at least in California. Look up "Bracero", at least.

Or Caesar Chavez, an advocate who has a wide and well deserved following of sane Californians...

Trump, at best, can only make a slight dent in the nonsense propagated by Obama.

Trump will advocate for dreamers, families, and IT visas, among other things.

And he will vociferously expel the Chollas, the homies, and the Cartellians. As any leader would, who has his/her finger on the pulse of this "greatest nation on Gods green Earth".

Sultan, your stuff is the worst, it rises at times to the level of merely boring....
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 16:10   #6333 (permalink)

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SASless, thanks for the reply which I read carefully.

Personally I think Obama was a good President, or as last, as good as he could be, with much of what he would have liked to have done stymied by the Republicans.

What a pity that we can't have a President for ALL Americans (Trump certainly isn't going to be that - he's mostly going to be President for himself, his rich buddies and anyone who can, however momentarily, satisfy his extraordinarily need for approval and applause. But I won't go on.

Do me a favor and read https://www.thenation.com/article/st...uyers-remorse/ and tell me what you think. I would actually be interested to know - please don't criticize the source but the words.

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 16:47   #6334 (permalink)
 
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Mac,

I tried to read it....but after a few paragraphs I grew weary of the shallow thinking behind the wording.

Had the writer skipped all the jingoistic language...and set forth his general thesis in practical everyday layman's language then he would have been able to hold my attention.

To accept his thinking one has to believe all Trump supporters see the Man as a "Saviour" of some sort who can single handedly right the Ship of State somehow.

He also said voters "elect" thousands of cronies.....which is nonsense as we do not as the Senate Confirms about 1200-1400 Staffers who are nominated by the President that is elected.

Will some of Trump's policies turnout to be mistakes.....probably.

Will he get all of his Agenda passed....NO!

Can he help mend the division in the Country....yes...if he gets the support of those that genuinely seek compromise.

Trump is not a Conservative....he is not a Radical....he really isn't a Politician in the traditional sense.

He has been in Office for a Month now. This Morning the Sun came up right on Schedule notwithstanding that.

He stated in his Press Conference that he "inherited a mess" which I think we can all agree upon.

We have a 20 Trillion Dollar Debt, Deficit Spending continues to add to that, our Military is the weakest and most unprepared it has been since WWII, the Economy has not improved much over the past eight Years for any number of reasons, we still have a huge Trade Deficit, Job growth has been unable to keep up with the growth of our population, and our Foreign Policy situation is in disarray. The World remains a very dangerous place.

I would point you to other sources for consideration....starting with the Drudge Report....not so much for the Drudge material itself....but the long list of Linked Sites that is there. It includes sources from both sides of the aisle.

I read material from Janes, Soufan Group, Stratfor, and other Defense and Intelligence sectors.

I weigh and balance what I read....and try to sort the wheat from the chaff.

For damn sure....the American Main Stream Media is not where I go for my news.

I read Politico just as regularly as I do Breitbart and give them both equal weight....as they pretty much are entirely opposite viewpoints.

By nature I am more a Libertarian than I am a Republican....but lean towards the Conservative side when it comes to Finance, Law, and Defense.

What I cannot abide is intolerance, stifling of free speech, and anything that smacks of denying responsibility for one'w own actions.

A quick example.....when we argue Social Justice....I simply ask why can we not just talk Justice? Far too much of the division in today's dialogue is due to folks confusing issues as they seek to push an agenda for their own gain rather than sticking to the basic concepts that are all inclusive.

I recently opined the Congressional Black Caucus had no place in Congress....as each of those people are already a member of the Congressional Caucus....by rights of being elected Representatives or Senators. They are free to promote their Agenda within that Body just as is every other Member of Congress.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 20:26   #6335 (permalink)
 
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MAC:
I concur with most all of what SASless wrote. He's better at expressing it than I am.

I read the article you referenced in The Nation. To me, it simply brought out all the tropes of those who see injustice everywhere they look, rather than progress toward improving everyone's lot in life. They see more regulatory "agencies" as the way to help the less fortunate and their oppression by their betters. In the writer's opinion, since Trump is opposed to more regulation, he cannot, by definition, succeed.

Some of us see things differently. The regulatory environment has often interfered with progress. It certainly has restricted small businesses, and aggravated the business side of medicine to the point where docs find they can no longer run a private independent practice.

As far as that coal miner, who the Democrats seem to think requires their protection, his life and circumstances will improve a lot more if the economy gets up and going, businesses both large and small can get back to what they do best, and schools can return to providing his kids with the means to better themselves, rather than simply providing tenure for disinterested teachers. If his family is that badly off he has, had, and always will have health care. Obamacare was not aimed at him, but it did raise the insurance costs for everyone else.

Can Trump accomplish this? I don't know, but I have doubts. I do know that the way we were heading, though, would not.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 20:28   #6336 (permalink)
 
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I see us as a country of divided factions. First one than the other rises to the top of the mix and by so doing pushes the others aside.

Do we really need black caucus, if so then lets have a latin caucus and when they get their way than an Asian caucus and finally when the whites are truly the minority throughout the nation, they can bind together in a white causcus.

are we there yet? , maybe next week or next year ?

Whatever happened to governing by laws that did not ask questions of colour or race? for special considerations?

OK, like others I see that Obama missed the point. I'm still open minded about Trumpet, but he sure thinks too much about himself when the rest of us care about the country and not him.

If he wants to lead then STFU about himself
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 21:02   #6337 (permalink)

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Thanks SASless and obgraham for your considered answers. We'll see.

Perhaps his unpleasant persona, vanity and boasting and silly lies about essentially irrelevant things has put me off too much.

I hope, for all our sakes, that he will settle down and start instructing himself in the reality of running a country rather than a conglomerate of businesses.

The consequences of bankruptcy would be a little more serious than yet another bunch of out-of-pocket speculators.

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rob: verb, take property unlawfully from (a person or place) by force or threat of force.
"he tried, with three others, to rob a bank"
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This article is where the US is at--do the people run the HS Government or is it run by the liberal media and left-leaning bureaucracy who ostensibly are our servants.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/tr...ons-15018.html

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For those that missed the news at 6 pm EST Trumpet decided to hold a boastful campaign rally in a Florida airport hangar.

The good citizens like myself simply took note and looked forward to watching our sports or nightly news. Instead the major networks cut to the boasting rally for the full hour depriving the rest of us our sanity.

The biggest problem is that the news is so dam dependent on not missing a chance to analyze his every utterance that they encourage him and make a round-robin never ending shambles of our normal life just to see their version of what he said.

This guy reminds me of Il Duce of the 1930's and seeks to be adored
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