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Old 19th Feb 2017, 07:44
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Accident : an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
"he had an accident at the factory"

Who mentioned murder?
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 07:55
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Originally Posted by wishiwasupthere View Post
Accident : an unfortunate incident that happens unexpectedly and unintentionally, typically resulting in damage or injury.
"he had an accident at the factory"

Who mentioned murder?
By placing the word accident in commas, your made your wish perfectly clear.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 07:57
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Interpret it how you wish.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 10:08
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Mattis for President.
He's a dignified statesman compared to Trump.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 10:27
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Loma.....you do realize Obama never stopped campaigning for eight years....had he got around to doing the actual job instead of just campaigning....he might have been able to get something beneficial done.
Hang on a minute - you've spent weeks (probably years) telling us that Obama is the devil incarnate who did all these evil things that you're looking forward to Trump reversing, but now you're saying he never did anything at all.

These show fundamental inconsistency - so were you delivering fake news then or are you doing so now?



The public have a right to know!!

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 11:31
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Trump himself started the vogue for hinting that it might be as well if one's political rivals came to harm. Much as I dislike the man, I see no reason to stoop to his level.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 12:25
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Well the second amendmenters know how to deal with a president like Trump...

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 13:10
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What is wrong about a President to speak directly to the People?
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 13:32
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Nothing. Making up imaginary terrorist attacks is a problem though.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 13:44
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What is wrong about a President to speak directly to the People?
That rather depends on which orifice he elects to speak from, and whether the people wish to be proud of the public image of their country, I suppose.

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 13:55
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Imaginary Terror attacks?

Please do explain (With specificity please)....what you mean by that.

By the way...the Blind Sheik just died in Prison....he successfully completed his Life Sentence!
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:14
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He spoke of terror attacks in Sweden.


Trump appears to invent Sweden terror incident | Reuters.com
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:15
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From the context (references to Nice, Brussels, immigrants) one is strongly misled to believe that immigrants perpetrated some kind of atrocity last night in Sweden. All a bit vague. Hand wavy. False.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:17
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............................. whether the people wish to be proud of the public image of their country, I suppose.
I doubt that many in the USA give a damn about the "public image of their country", in reality.

I worked and lived there for fairly long periods, and one consistent theme amongst the people and friends I made there (outside the DC area) was a degree of insular and inward-looking thinking that would seem very strange to many people from smaller countries. It seemed to me that few of the people I met had a particular good understanding, or even awareness, of the world outside the US border. I wasn't working with idiots, either, but generally people who all had a fairly high level of education.

I remember one engineering lecturer at a university I was working at in the US in particular. He came over for a chat one lunchtime, and about ten minutes into the conversation he asked "You're not from around here, are you?" (maybe the English accent was a bit of a give away). I replied that no, I was from the UK, working at the university for a few weeks. He looked a bit puzzled for time, then asked "Is that in Europe somewhere?".

I think many here in the UK think the new US President is a bit of a joke, as he comes across pretty badly in anything we get to see. Whether what we're seeing is a true representation is always open to question, but the UK media generally have no axe to grind when it comes to US politics, so I suspect there isn't a vast amount of selective editing going on; nowhere near as much as goes on in the US media, in all probability.

Does it really matter for most Americans that their President is seen as a bit of a joke elsewhere in the world? To be honest, I doubt it does. What matters more to them is whether the man delivers on his promises, and that won't be known for a fair time yet.

One thing's for sure, the new President's character and mannerisms are a real gift for comedians, all over the world!
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:21
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Whether what we're seeing is a true representation is always open to question

That's him alright. He's a showman. Larger than life in his own mind. P.T.Barnum would have been proud.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:26
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You probably think the Beeb has no bias in its broadcasting too I bet!

He made no mention of terror inSweden....look at your own video.

Tell us there has been no problem with increased incidents of Rape, Sexual assaults, and violent assaults by Muslim immigrants in Sweden, Germany, and Australia. How about what is going on in Paris the past few days?

That is what he was referring to in that part of his speech.

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 14:48
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"You look at what happened last night in Sweden"


This is what happened that night in Sweden


3:24 PM (local time): A man set himself on fire at Sergels torg, a plaza in central Stockholm. He was taken to the hospital with severe burns. There is so far no information on his motives but the intelligence service is not part of the investigation.
6:42 PM: The famous singer Owe Thörnqvist had some technical problems during rehearsal for the singing competition ”Melodifestivalen”. (However, the 87 year old singer still managed to secure the victory the very next day.)
8:23 PM: A man died in hospital, after an accident in the workplace earlier that day in the city of Borås.
8:46 PM: Due to harsh weather in the northern parts of Sweden the road E10 was closed between Katterjåkk and Riksgränsen. Due to strong winds and snow in the region the Met office also issued an avalanche warning.
12:17 AM: Police officers initiated a chase for a fleeing Peugeot through central parts of the Swedish capital of Stockholm. The pursuit ended in police officers ramming the suspect at Engelbrektsgatan. The driver is now accused of driving under the influence, traffic violation and car theft.


I'm sure more happened in Sweden Friday night - but that was what hit the news.


That is what he was referring to in that part of his speech.
Then he mis-spoke very badly. Presidents are NOT supposed to do that!
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 15:20
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That is what he was referring to in that part of his speech.

Why then the reference to Nice? And which particular rape/assault/crime do you think he was specifically referring to?
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 17:13
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Do you not grasp there are serious problems of Sexual Assault, Rape, and Riot going on in Nations that have accepted large numbers of Muslim Immigrants to include Terrorist Activity?

Is not Merkel changing her tune due to that very situation?

You think Nice, Paris, Brussels, and other Terror Attacks do not figure into this?

We have been fairly lucky as our Muslim population has gained far more assimilation and welcome in this Country than in someplace in Europe....perhaps mostly due to our ability of having a population of about 300 Million people to absorb them and our Economy affords them the ability to gain employment.

We simply wish to avoid the problems we see Europe confronting due to the entry of undesirables and have the benefit of seeing what happened in Europe when you do the Open Boarders thing.

So far, our Open Border Policy has been the method where by people from south of us come here to better themselves, find work, and send money back home to their families.

So far one thing is proven....Catholicism is a far less awkward Religion to meld into a modern system of Western values than is Islam.

When you get your own House in order.....preach to us...but not until then please.

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 17:48
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A rally?

Awww... Someone hasn't told him he won a few months ago?
Nothing unusual. Political rallies when you are in power were very big in Germany in the 1930's as well, just after they removed all the "undesirables" and took control of the media. If you think about it, whenever some 3rd world tin pot dictator comes to power what's the first thing they do? Take control of the local TV/Radio station. Steve "Goebbels" Bannon is well up on the play book, as he lives "his struggle".

Another part of that playbook is also quite predictable:

"...in the event that the media can not be controlled by party sources, a campaign of discrediting news stories should be run. Start by challenging every story until the party faithful become desensitized to the outcries of the press and begin to doubt the veracity of all news. If necessary, introduce your own fabricated stories, and when the media run with them you are able to "prove" they are false.

The purpose of this instrument is twofold; (a) It allows the party to control public access to the true message, and (b) If the truth of the depth of foreign control and influence is eventually discovered and reported, it can be immediately discredited as fake news, thus protecting the position of the leader."
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