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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:01
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Now there is an idea....but seriously speaking...did we not have a similar situation following the demise of the USSR?

There was a great fear some of their suddenly surplus Nukes might find their way onto the Black Market.

For a lot of reasons that did not happen.

That Football thing can issue the authorization...but cannot actually launch the a weapon.

There is no way the President...any President can just snap his fingers....or just snap....and carry out a First Strike using Nuclear Weapons.

The Secretary of Defense can act as a Time Delay that will allow for a confirmation of the need for the Launch.

This is the stuff for movie plots.

Think back to how close we came to Nuclear War with the Soviets during the Cuban Missile Crisis....and that was real...very real!

The Soviets and the Americans took measures to improve security after that.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:22
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Obama had a good plan to ensure Trump could not somehow go Rogue and confuse the Football Key Pad with his iPhone in a rage over some imagined slight and his need to make a hurried Tweet in response.

Obama Plans to Take Nuclear Launch Codes with Him When He Leaves Office - The New Yorker
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 14:58
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What Happened to Making America Great

While President Donald Trump rails against immigrants and foreign workers taking away American jobs, the Trump Vineyard Estates has filed yet another request for visas for foreign farm workers at its Virginia winery
The great liar is hiring foreigners to work his plantation for $11.27 an hour. What a hypocrite. I am sure they wiil block workers to other wineries to monopolize the market with their Walmart grade product.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:04
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You are at least decades behind the history of immigration, at least in California. Look up "Bracero", at least.

Or Caesar Chavez, an advocate who has a wide and well deserved following of sane Californians...

Trump, at best, can only make a slight dent in the nonsense propagated by Obama.

Trump will advocate for dreamers, families, and IT visas, among other things.

And he will vociferously expel the Chollas, the homies, and the Cartellians. As any leader would, who has his/her finger on the pulse of this "greatest nation on Gods green Earth".

Sultan, your stuff is the worst, it rises at times to the level of merely boring....
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:10
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SASless, thanks for the reply which I read carefully.

Personally I think Obama was a good President, or as last, as good as he could be, with much of what he would have liked to have done stymied by the Republicans.

What a pity that we can't have a President for ALL Americans (Trump certainly isn't going to be that - he's mostly going to be President for himself, his rich buddies and anyone who can, however momentarily, satisfy his extraordinarily need for approval and applause. But I won't go on.

Do me a favor and read https://www.thenation.com/article/st...uyers-remorse/ and tell me what you think. I would actually be interested to know - please don't criticize the source but the words.

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 15:47
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Mac,

I tried to read it....but after a few paragraphs I grew weary of the shallow thinking behind the wording.

Had the writer skipped all the jingoistic language...and set forth his general thesis in practical everyday layman's language then he would have been able to hold my attention.

To accept his thinking one has to believe all Trump supporters see the Man as a "Saviour" of some sort who can single handedly right the Ship of State somehow.

He also said voters "elect" thousands of cronies.....which is nonsense as we do not as the Senate Confirms about 1200-1400 Staffers who are nominated by the President that is elected.

Will some of Trump's policies turnout to be mistakes.....probably.

Will he get all of his Agenda passed....NO!

Can he help mend the division in the Country....yes...if he gets the support of those that genuinely seek compromise.

Trump is not a Conservative....he is not a Radical....he really isn't a Politician in the traditional sense.

He has been in Office for a Month now. This Morning the Sun came up right on Schedule notwithstanding that.

He stated in his Press Conference that he "inherited a mess" which I think we can all agree upon.

We have a 20 Trillion Dollar Debt, Deficit Spending continues to add to that, our Military is the weakest and most unprepared it has been since WWII, the Economy has not improved much over the past eight Years for any number of reasons, we still have a huge Trade Deficit, Job growth has been unable to keep up with the growth of our population, and our Foreign Policy situation is in disarray. The World remains a very dangerous place.

I would point you to other sources for consideration....starting with the Drudge Report....not so much for the Drudge material itself....but the long list of Linked Sites that is there. It includes sources from both sides of the aisle.

I read material from Janes, Soufan Group, Stratfor, and other Defense and Intelligence sectors.

I weigh and balance what I read....and try to sort the wheat from the chaff.

For damn sure....the American Main Stream Media is not where I go for my news.

I read Politico just as regularly as I do Breitbart and give them both equal weight....as they pretty much are entirely opposite viewpoints.

By nature I am more a Libertarian than I am a Republican....but lean towards the Conservative side when it comes to Finance, Law, and Defense.

What I cannot abide is intolerance, stifling of free speech, and anything that smacks of denying responsibility for one'w own actions.

A quick example.....when we argue Social Justice....I simply ask why can we not just talk Justice? Far too much of the division in today's dialogue is due to folks confusing issues as they seek to push an agenda for their own gain rather than sticking to the basic concepts that are all inclusive.

I recently opined the Congressional Black Caucus had no place in Congress....as each of those people are already a member of the Congressional Caucus....by rights of being elected Representatives or Senators. They are free to promote their Agenda within that Body just as is every other Member of Congress.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 19:26
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MAC:
I concur with most all of what SASless wrote. He's better at expressing it than I am.

I read the article you referenced in The Nation. To me, it simply brought out all the tropes of those who see injustice everywhere they look, rather than progress toward improving everyone's lot in life. They see more regulatory "agencies" as the way to help the less fortunate and their oppression by their betters. In the writer's opinion, since Trump is opposed to more regulation, he cannot, by definition, succeed.

Some of us see things differently. The regulatory environment has often interfered with progress. It certainly has restricted small businesses, and aggravated the business side of medicine to the point where docs find they can no longer run a private independent practice.

As far as that coal miner, who the Democrats seem to think requires their protection, his life and circumstances will improve a lot more if the economy gets up and going, businesses both large and small can get back to what they do best, and schools can return to providing his kids with the means to better themselves, rather than simply providing tenure for disinterested teachers. If his family is that badly off he has, had, and always will have health care. Obamacare was not aimed at him, but it did raise the insurance costs for everyone else.

Can Trump accomplish this? I don't know, but I have doubts. I do know that the way we were heading, though, would not.
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 19:28
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I see us as a country of divided factions. First one than the other rises to the top of the mix and by so doing pushes the others aside.

Do we really need black caucus, if so then lets have a latin caucus and when they get their way than an Asian caucus and finally when the whites are truly the minority throughout the nation, they can bind together in a white causcus.

are we there yet? , maybe next week or next year ?

Whatever happened to governing by laws that did not ask questions of colour or race? for special considerations?

OK, like others I see that Obama missed the point. I'm still open minded about Trumpet, but he sure thinks too much about himself when the rest of us care about the country and not him.

If he wants to lead then STFU about himself
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Old 18th Feb 2017, 20:02
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Thanks SASless and obgraham for your considered answers. We'll see.

Perhaps his unpleasant persona, vanity and boasting and silly lies about essentially irrelevant things has put me off too much.

I hope, for all our sakes, that he will settle down and start instructing himself in the reality of running a country rather than a conglomerate of businesses.

The consequences of bankruptcy would be a little more serious than yet another bunch of out-of-pocket speculators.

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Old 18th Feb 2017, 20:03
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rob: verb, take property unlawfully from (a person or place) by force or threat of force.
"he tried, with three others, to rob a bank"
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 00:51
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This article is where the US is at--do the people run the HS Government or is it run by the liberal media and left-leaning bureaucracy who ostensibly are our servants.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/tr...ons-15018.html

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 01:03
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For those that missed the news at 6 pm EST Trumpet decided to hold a boastful campaign rally in a Florida airport hangar.

The good citizens like myself simply took note and looked forward to watching our sports or nightly news. Instead the major networks cut to the boasting rally for the full hour depriving the rest of us our sanity.

The biggest problem is that the news is so dam dependent on not missing a chance to analyze his every utterance that they encourage him and make a round-robin never ending shambles of our normal life just to see their version of what he said.

This guy reminds me of Il Duce of the 1930's and seeks to be adored
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 01:35
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And Obama, GWB, Slick Willie didn't, lomapaseo?. That behaviour is inherent in politicians which is exactly why we must trim their power trips--take awY the money, the power to tell us what to do and how to do it. The Executive branch must be reduced by, at least, one half. They need to stop buying us with our own money.

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 03:39
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A rally?


Awww... Someone hasn't told him he won a few months ago?
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 03:40
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Loma.....you do realize Obama never stopped campaigning for eight years....had he got around to doing the actual job instead of just campaigning....he might have been able to get something beneficial done.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 03:40
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Awww... Someone hasn't told him he won a few months ago?
The next election isn't far off.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 04:25
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Things to do in Florida on a Saturday afternoon....

Donald Trump savages media at Florida rally - BBC News

Clearly, the above report will be just another example of the "lying media", or " fake news", or both for some on here.

And, it always helps if you keep the media behind metal gates, caged in fact, to remind them of their status.

However, it's not the utterly puerile, bordering on the sociopathic obsession with the media which is alarming.....alas, taking on the global media isn't exactly an example of erudite thinking, or statesmanlike qualities, not that he's got even a scintilla of such as has long been evident, it's the not so little matter of the rally which is far more disturbing.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-florida-rally

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Old 19th Feb 2017, 04:28
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Swedish Terror Attack

Trump mentioned in his rant today the terror attack yesterday in Sweden which had a death toll on par with Bowling Green and Atlanta (0 because nothing happened).

Interesting he did not mention the terror attack launched against Target customers which was thwarted by a homeless guy. Could it be because the perpetrator was a white Trump supporter like the one in Canada he never mentioned?
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 04:56
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President Trump makes up story of refugee attack on Sweden

The blatant lies keep on coming from the orange clown.

The CIA organised 'accident' can't come soon enough.
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Old 19th Feb 2017, 06:28
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The CIA organised 'accident' can't come soon enough.
I must have missed the point on this forum where it became permissible to call for someone to be murdered?
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