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Old 23rd Jan 2017, 22:48
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There are those (within these very pages) that consider EOs to be a coward's way forward. I do not and consider them to be an essential part of the office of chief executive and do not begrudge TrumPus' here - however I do take issue with his short-sighted, greed-fed, hubris-filled stances on issues both international and domestic.

Time will tell if the man sees the light at some point and realizes what he does in our highest office has potentially grave and long-lasting repercussions that go well beyond the confines of the dysfunctional echo chamber that is Washington DC.

He surrounds himself with the best advisors money can buy.
Indeed. I would prefer advisors that money cannot buy.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 01:21
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What I had hoped, however, was that as president, Trump would straighten up and fly right. His small-minded tendencies and thin-skinned reactions have proven that he has yet to feel the yoke of responsibility of the office of president - an office that holds not only the leader of the people and their government of this great country, but the most visible representative of the US on the global stage.

So far, his supporters (included those that did not vote HRC) should be hanging their heads in shame whilst the world looks on in stunned amazement, fear, and for some, confirmation of their prior biases that the man truly is a small-minded, thin-skinned, ego maniacal idiot.
I could give a rats ass if he attacks the likes of Rep Lewis on twitter, who btw had it coming with his comments. What I care about what he does. Pulling out of TPP today earned him praise from your boy Bernie. He earned kudos from Labor leaders for his actions and tone about retaining US jobs. So while you and your ilk on the ludicrous left are whining, about his twitter rants, those representing the working class were quite happy with his actions today. As the Dems worry about getting woman into the men's bathroom and expanding the tent to represent everyone but white males, Trump is stealing disenfranchised Dem voters on his first business day in the office.

Not a bad first day.

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 01:39
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Says in Article I,

All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.
Other than giving orders to Article II officers, where does the President get to write law, vapilot2004? I would think
his short-sighted, greed-fed, hubris-filled stances on issues both international and domestic
would be more than enough reason to stop letting the executive branch create law.

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 02:46
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but obviously the woman was taking orders from the Pussy Grabber in Chief
Trump has usurped Bill?
being caught in a lie in front of the entire world
I did not have sex with that woman.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 03:23
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Should this word be resurrected?

Trumpery.

Trumpery derives from the Middle English trompery and ultimately from the Middle French tromper, meaning "to deceive." (You can see the meaning of this root reflected in the French phrase trompe-l'oeil-literally, "deceives the eye"-which in English refers to a style of painting with photographically realistic detail.) Trumpery first appeared in English in the mid-15th century with the meanings "deceit or fraud" (a sense that is now obsolete) and "worthless nonsense." Less than 100 years later, it was being applied to material objects of little or no value. The verb phrase trump up means "to concoct with the intent to deceive," but there is most likely no etymological connection between this phrase and trumpery.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 03:30
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Other than giving orders to Article II officers, where does the President get to write law, vapilot2004?
Where were you in 2014, when Obama was saying "We are not just going to be waiting for legislation in order to make sure that we're providing Americans the kind of help that they need. I've got a pen, and I've got a phone. And I can use that pen to sign executive orders and take executive actions and administrative actions"?

Too late. Thanks to Democrats and the Cucks who support them, the only thing that can stop Trump doing anything he wants by Executive Order is impeachment.

And good luck with that.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 05:33
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Actually MG23, the greatest expansion of the power of the office of president came about during the Bush administration at the behest of VP Dick Cheney. Some would characterize this expansion as a good thing, others disagree. I find it to be historically a mixed bag, mostly good, unless the occupier of the big chair turns out to be a clueless asshole.

...and in case you missed it the first time round:

Some historical numbers on EO's to put the conversation in perspective:

George Washington - 8
Thomas Jefferson - 4
Ulysses Grant - 271
Theodore Roosevelt - 1,081
Woodrow Wilson - 1,803
Franklin Roosevelt - 3,721
Dwight D Eisenhower - 484
Ronald Reagan - 381
George W Bush - 291
Barack Obama - 277
Galaxy Flyer (and others): Executive Orders carry legal implications and can direct agencies of the executive branch. I never said the president writes laws, although the office of the president has an agenda and works with like-minded (and sometimes opposite minded if enough pork is added) members of Congress to write laws that will allow the administration's political agenda to move forward.

What are you banging on about West Coast regarding the Black Congressman and Civil Rights icon that refused to attend the (way smaller than Obama's) Trump inauguration?

My remarks regarding Trump's temperament have nothing to do with that, but instead are focused the grade school behaviors that have been on display since the beginnings of his campaign. He is a small minded person that takes offense easily. He is vindictive and appears to lack grace. All of these qualities are not ideal in anyone as a person, let alone as the office holder of president.

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 06:01
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" He is a small minded person that takes offense easily. He is vindictive and appears to lack grace. All of these qualities are not ideal in anyone as a person, let alone as the office holder of president

I think it's fair to say this is not an apparition....other than that, a fair and rational assessment.

Would this be an appropriate time to add he was also endorsed by the KKK ?..given I have no recollection of any other President receiving this accolade .
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 06:03
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I wonder why lately I have been constantly reminded of the Dunning - Kruger effect. Strange.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 06:15
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Originally Posted by MG23
Thanks to Democrats and the Cucks
I've seen this term thrown about lately and had no idea what it meant, so I had to google it.

Why Angry White Men Love Calling People "Cucks" | GQ

So, it's akin to someone with a small dick calling someone else 'small dick' as they view it as an insult thanks to their own insecurities. Seems pretty accurate, thanks for the understanding. You learn something new everyday.

Per, Darwin hit the nail on the head
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 06:16
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KnC, the Klan has endorsed governors, mayors and members of the House and Senate, among others, and once before Trump they attempted to support and endorse Reagan for president, but Ronnie knew enough about politics and combined with his own moral character, declined in clear and strong terms their pledged support.

Trump failed to do this. We can only imagine why. We do know his father refused to rent to blacks despite owning buildings in neighborhoods where blacks lived and we know Donald helped with that discrimination. We also know a Fred Trump was one of seven men arrested at a Klan rally in Queens and the address given by the accused was Trump senior's residence.

If you ask others here and listen to the echo chamber of conservative media, all this talk of racism and Trump is just a bunch of hooey stirred up by rabble rousing liberals.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 07:05
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Is this Trump presidency is turning out to be a laugh a minute. This 'National Day of Patriotic Devotion', did he lift that directly from the DPRK?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-north-korea

Stop it please Donald, my sides are hurting from all this uncontrollable mirth!
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 07:22
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KelvinD I appreciate you putting in a word for Auntie. The Beeb is a national resource and I would wager that those who constantly bleat on about biases have spent little time listening or watching.

Instead they only know a recantation of the Rupert Murdoch incantation of set words and phrases that are hollow at best. Mainstream liberal media, liberals, Saul Alinsky, Keynian Socialist, birth certificate, etc.

No thought goes in behind these--it is as if they are merely chanting whilst running fingers through prayer beads in a constant repetition of what they have been told. A point by point rebuttal, after employing Rapoport's Rules is of course out of the question with this cohort of cringe-worthy interlocutors.

Very few on this thread could produce a decent definition of some of the words and phrases that they use--they can only repeat them. My quest to see if they could give a definition of the socialism label that they threw Mr. Obama's way was proof that they were not interested in exact and accurate discourse but rather parroting. If they so embarrassingly miss the mark on this easy task, think of the intellectual disconnection that is going on with the others.

Vapilot: I watched, upon recommendation of an American friend, an HBO program/film called the World According to Dick Cheney. Not a hit piece at all as most of it was him speaking in an extended interview. Well worth watching as it describes his view of wishing the President to have more power--a constant struggle of viewpoints from what I learned. I do have to say though that a man who does not feel he has any regrets in life is one that I have nothing in common with. The fact that a number of justice officials almost resigned without the President knowing was rather alarming--and Dick said he would do the same thing again. Plus comparing a very rich Washington lawyer (Libby) to a wounded soldier on the battlefield was rather fatuous--particularly whist boyz were coming home from fields of strife in coffins at the time.

He definitely was one in a quest of a more authoritarian president. He got his wish apparently but I will leave that for others more knowledgeable than I for this determination.

Looking at the news this morning I see that Mr. Trump is blaming his loss of the popular vote on illegals. Could he please not work on more important things like getting Germany to pony up its share of NATO costs?

Every tree needs to be pruned on occasion so let him do it intelligently. This constant lying though is growing weary on these far shores!

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 07:31
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What are you banging on about West Coast regarding the Black Congressman and Civil Rights icon that refused to attend the (way smaller than Obama's) Trump inauguration?
Really should pick up a newspaper every now and then, even if you have to stoop to the NYT.

He is a small minded person that takes offense easily. He is vindictive and appears to lack grace. All of these qualities are not ideal in anyone as a person, let alone as the office holder of president.
Lack grace? You think Trump has found Monica's blue dress hanging up in the Oval Office closet? You know, soiled by the guy you don't want to bum a cigar off of. Don't pontificate about grace in the WH after that letch actually did what Trump boasts about.

Seems you want to focus on his twitter tirades, I instead will watch his actions as an indicator of his success. So far, so good.
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The difference being, of course, that women actually WANTED to fool around with Bill, whereas trump can only get any by abuse or coercion.

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 09:27
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So tell me was he signing everything with a felt tip? I suppose it is one up from a crayon.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 09:31
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Wonder if he's always used that signature?
Looks very much like a skyscraper silhouette.
Dramatic, I'll give it that.
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 12:06
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So tell me was he signing everything with a felt tip? I suppose it is one up from a crayon.
He's not trusted with anytrhing sharp.

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Old 24th Jan 2017, 13:26
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Originally Posted by John Hill View Post
Is this Trump presidency is turning out to be a laugh a minute. This 'National Day of Patriotic Devotion', did he lift that directly from the DPRK?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...es-north-korea

Stop it please Donald, my sides are hurting from all this uncontrollable mirth!

Well he actually lifted it from his predecessor - Obama declared his inauguration day the 'National Day of Renewal and Reconciliation'
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Old 24th Jan 2017, 15:43
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And Dubya declared his 'National Day of Prayer and Thanksgiving'.
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