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Old 26th Nov 2016, 22:26
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Advertising her brand minus the vacuum of the election perhaps. I've heard her name more in the past two days then I did in months of the election process.

Be curious where the funds above and beyond needed for the recount end up.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 05:46
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Folks....the Woman conceded....threw in the towel....gave up....admitted defeat...said she LOST!
And she hasn't got a brother who is governor of a state and who will fix a recount for her.

That makes her a double loser.

She's finished. Her immensely powerful sponsors will never regard her as a safe pair of hands again.

Goldman Sachs or JPM will give her a nice lucrative sinecure and a multimillion dollar pseudosalary, but she'll no longer be entrusted with anything more important than the cruet at the top table.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 06:29
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She's fabulously wealthy and old. I think she'll slink off into some sort of semi retirement, popping out to give speeches.
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Old 27th Nov 2016, 15:50
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GF...

"She is stalking horse for peak progressives, but what's the end game?"

Money: she has gobs of DNC dough, and

Power: She has millions of zombies dwelling the Internets...

Streisand never graciously faded away, just sayin'
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 04:03
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The lecture circuit comes next, it is a global one, fees around $100,000 per appearance, plus first class fares and hotac.
Blair could no doubt give her a few addresses and 'phone numbers.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 13:06
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US President-elect Donald Trump has asserted he won the popular vote on 8 November "if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally"
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The question that raises is how can one legitimately take up post, when one is himself stating the illegitimacy of the said vote results, no matter which way he perceives them to have been cast.

There are Countries the world over that have been denigrated by the western world for corrupt elections, are the future president and runner up now both stating theirs was as well, and ignoring the facts? because that isn't democracy as I see it.

If he had not said as such then it wouldn't have been an issue, but for the President elect to state that the results are tainted, simply throws the whole result and his legitimacy to take power into disarray.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 14:02
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Perhaps not....as we know certain States and a certain Political Party have a reputation for Voter Fraud and Election Vote Tampering.

Look back to Texas under the Democrats, Chicago and Illinois under the Democrats, California under the Democrats, North Carolina under the Democrats, and other locations....under Democrats.

See a trend?

Some Texas history.....


http://www.houstonchronicle.com/opin...as-9954625.php


The Democrats have opposed Voter ID laws, have insisted upon early voting periods that last weeks, and insist upon One Stop/Same Day Voting. They couch their arguments by insisting is purely for enfranchising minority voters and any effort to ensure the validity of Voting....is a Republican effort to dis-enfranchise minority voters.

When you have President Obama saying no harm shall follow an Illegal Alien Voting....that should pretty well suggest where the Democrats concept of Fair Elections lies.

In my home state....we have had an Activist Judge make Decisions that have wreaked havoc with the recent Elections....causing re-arranging of Congressional Districts within mere Weeks of the Primary Election, striking down Voter Registration Laws, removing the requirement to provide a Photo ID to vote and other changes to the Voting Laws.

He is Black, a Democrat, and very much a Judge who makes Law from the Bench.

That is the simple explanation for so much of this.

That is why we have the Electoral College....as it makes it very awkward for one Party to run the Table....and that is a very good thing.

If we merely used the Popular Vote as a means to elect Presidents....there are three or four States that could always control the Country. States like Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming would in effect have no say so whatsoever.

We see that effect in States like Washington, Oregon, California, Nevada, and to an extent North Carolina.....where the large Urban Areas which are predominantly Democrat/Liberal have such an advantage in sheer numbers of population they can outvote the Rural Republican/Conservative population.

Yes.....we have Fraud and illegal voting in our Elections....but not enough to throw the Election to either Party unless the vote is very even across every State, County, and Precinct.

That was not the case in this Election....as Trump carried a significant number of States by large margins.

Ask yourself why the Democrats are always pushing for allowing Illegal Aliens to vote in California, and opposing Voter ID in Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Florida, and restoring voting privileges for Felons in Virginia?

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Old 28th Nov 2016, 14:16
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Now let’s look at that popular vote more closely. As of today, according to The New York Times, Hillary Clinton has 62,391,335 votes from all states. She has 1,969,920 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 1,893,770 votes from Los Angeles County, California. Donald Trump has 61,125,956 votes from all states, including 461,174 votes from the five counties that make up New York City, and 620,285 votes from L.A. County. In other words, Hillary beat Trump 3,863,690 to 1,081,459 in New York and L.A.; he beat her by 60,044,497 to 58,527,645 in the rest of the country. So Hillary’s margin in the popular vote rests entirely on her margin in two large cities — neither of which was contested by the Trump campaign.
Those are important numbers to remember--we are called the United States of America, not the United States of Some Large Cities, screw the rest of you folks.

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Old 28th Nov 2016, 14:25
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Those are important numbers to remember--we are called the United States of America, not the United States of Some Large Cities, screw the rest of you folks.
and as we keep expanding our cities we will be like just a single large city of free loaders with little output and not enough money to survive.

We ought to look at our GNP and figure out what governing method best supports that as well. Is it a new form of an electorial college ?
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 15:36
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Them Founding Fathers....be some bright folks, eh!

Now when you hear some Dolt yelling about the need to do away with the Electoral College System....you will understand why that is a genuinely stupid notion!
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 17:58
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The end game of doing away with the EC would be a fracturing of the US. An election decided by a few large cities ain't gonna fly in fly over country.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:25
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Isn't receiving benefits from the government and voting a conflict of interest?
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:40
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Isn't receiving benefits from the government and voting a conflict of interest?
NO, it's not.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:46
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Isn't receiving benefits from the government and voting a conflict of interest?
No, what you describe is the reason that Plato gave for democracy (in its purest form) is inherently self destructive. (Oddly enough, he wrote a book called "The Republic" ... )
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 18:52
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Isn't receiving benefits from the government and voting a conflict of interest?
I never give it a thought .... I just vote for what's best for me, but for the right incentive I can change my mind
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 19:11
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Isn't receiving benefits from the government and voting a conflict of interest?
That's a back door argument for a dictatorship. We tend to vote for what benefits us individually or in small collectives. I voted for a county supervisor who championed a construction project to straighten out and widen a stretch of rural road near me that had an inordinate number of accidents. The challenger didn't support the project. While not a direct monetary benefit, it was beneficial in making the street safer and likely increased the value of surrounding homes.
If receiving benefits directly or indirectly eliminated voters due to a conflict of interest, there ain't gonna be no one left.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 22:28
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer View Post
Those are important numbers to remember--we are called the United States of America, not the United States of Some Large Cities, screw the rest of you folks.

GF
Surely the appropriate response here would be "Suck it up - you lost. Get over it. Why are you still talking about it." or somesuch brainless mantra as so often heard from Trump's unthinking acolytes?

Can't have it both ways, after all.

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Old 28th Nov 2016, 22:32
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I saw a news report about the Ohio incident which described the miscreant as a 'gunman' - despite him using his car and a butcher's knife.
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Old 28th Nov 2016, 23:03
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Surely the appropriate response here would be "Suck it up - you lost. Get over it. Why are you still talking about it." or somesuch brainless mantra as so often heard from Trump's unthinking acolytes?
We actually tried that, it was called slavery, then Jim Crow, where the majority got to vote supporting slavery and subjugation backed by the Supreme Court in Plessy v. Ferguson. It's not about majority rule, that is the point if being a Republic not a democracy.

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Old 29th Nov 2016, 01:17
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An article about the disturbance in Ohio.

That should be sufficiently vague I hope.


Suspect Identified in Ohio State Attack as Abdul Razak Ali Artan - NBC News
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