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Today's Massacre in Paris

Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:21
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Originally Posted by ehwatezedoing View Post
In meanwhile, Mr al Sisi (president of Egypt) has a point, thanks for the post RJM.
Indeed, thanks RJM
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:34
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Am I not alone in skipping long posts thus possibly missing any relevent points addressed?
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:37
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But, predictably, the usual suspects are accusing Wilcox of anti-semitism and demanding that he's fired.


So much for their claims to believe in free speech and freedom of the press.
Some are. Most just want a proper apology for an anti-semitic comment. What he tried to do was justify why four Jews in Paris were murdered. He seemed to think it was fine to explain the deaths of innocent people in Paris as having something to do with Israel.

The supermarket was held up to try and force the police to let the brothers who were guilty of the CH attacks to walk free. These people were completely innocent, and (as far as I'm aware) didn't actually work for CH, and had nothing to do with the reason for the original attack. The didn't create any of the cartoons, they probably never even bought the magazine. For him to try and find a justification for it is reprehensible even if it isn't anti-semitic.

However, as shown above, he is also guilty of using the argument of collective responsibility, which is actually a definition of anti-semitism.

It might be worth having a quick read of this:

Daily Mail

Even the Daily Mail considered it worth reporting...

Moreover, it's not the first time he's been picked up for, at least dodgy comments, even if they're not fully anti-semitic. He clearly has a problem though...
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:42
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Am I not alone in skipping long posts thus possibly missing any relevent points addressed?
Not at all, who can be bothered to read reams of cut and paste that is trying to prove.............. what???
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:44
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Exactly my point, in my post which was removed as it obviously OFFENDED somebody.
Get real.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:51
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What is the definition of terrorism?

Surely it is any act which is intended to intimidate by use of force or to terrorise.

Thus, targeted killings by Kalashnikov are just as much a "terrorist" act as are the Crusaders' targeted killings by drone and Biblical weapons such as Hellfire and Brimstone.

Every one of the terrorist acts in the above posts is clearly a terrorist act, even if some people may approve of those acts or dismiss them as irrelevant to a discussion about patterns of terrorism.

Then there's about three thousand acts of murderous terrorism by Christian terrorists of the US-backed republican "army"(sic). They are terrorist acts too, even though they were largely funded and armed by Americans.

The Jewish-backed massacres of thousands of Muslims in the Sabra and Chatila camps by Christian hard-right terrorists was terrorism too you know.

No religion has a monopoly on terrorism and no religion should be characterised as terroristic. Terrorism certainly isn't an "extreme" of Islam. It is antithetical to Islam (and Christianity and probably Judaism).
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 12:58
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This is the link to Low Fliers plagiarism Terror Right

I guess he wanted to avoid the opening paragraphs to create suspense, but a link really would have sufficed.

p.s are you saying that mad neo-nazi right wing skin heads are comparable to say ISIS? Really?

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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:02
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I saw your post before it was removed.

If you call posters with whom you disagree "[email protected]" what do you expect?
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:03
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What is your point Low Flier?
Why do you feel the need to 'even up the score' by posting that stuff?
As Hempy pointed out, a nice bit of plagiarism.

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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:06
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Flying Lawyer

I have no problem at all with what somebody chooses to call me on JB.
I'm not so thin skinned.
That is the crux of the whole thing.

Or should I turn that around and ask, Is that not the crux of the whole thing?
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:08
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The Moscow Theatre Attackers don't probably qualify - if I remember correctly, it was about the Checenyan war, which was not about religion?
How Chechnya Became a Breeding Ground for Terror
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:16
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What you do or don't have problem with is irrelevant.
The Mods try to maintain some semblance of intelligent discussion - a challenging task in this thread.


That is the crux of the whole thing.
Not IMHO.

Freedom to be gratuitously offensive doesn't mean it's either reasonable or responsible to be so.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:27
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Hempy, I'm saying that they are all terrorist acts.

Can you spot a pattern in those terrorist acts? I can.

If you would like to list terrorist acts committed within the ConUS by ISIS then please do so. We can perhaps see what the pattern of terrorism in the US actually looks like.

The US certainly has a problem of terrorism on its doorstep, but ISIS (or ISIL or IS) is a miniscule part of that pattern, if indeed it is part of it at all.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:28
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Hempy wrote:

And when the first Muslim-American was recently elected to Congress, he took the oath to defend our Constitution using the same Holy Koran that one of our Founding Fathers – Thomas Jefferson – kept in his personal library.
Thomas Jefferson kept a copy of the Koran in his rather voluminous library only because he could. He made a few references to the Koran, just as he made references to the Bible. However, Thomas Jefferson was not religious in any sense of the word and ascribed to no one religion. He always was religion agnostic, if you will. But did believe in a "Creator".
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:33
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Fox3 wrote:

Point of order

American Exceptionalism
5. Internet - Nope.

Actually, they did do that. It was the World Wide Web that was invented in Europe.
Yup, it was Al Gore himself who single-handedly invented the Internet. He said so himself. He must be believed then. (He also mentioned something about global warming. Tonight's temperature shall hover around 0F. I think Al Gore is a liar. Especially when my balls freeze.)
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 13:47
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Originally Posted by Vercingetorix View Post
and yet the 'leader of the Free World' watches TV while others march in Paris.
As I mentioned previously, for most of the mugs who showed up it was a very short commute. Not so much for President Obama.
Bring back the America of Old.
Ain't gonna happen. Old America is apparently no longer appreciated in most of the world, including in America itself. By the way, old America, circa 1970's and 1980's, continually was the target of vitriol and calumny by the useful idiots of Western Europe. Of this I have personal recollection. Listening to various whinges (such as yours) from across the pond is an old story.

wings folded:
No, the simple fact is that your bloke could not be naffed.
I suspect there was a bit more to it than that, but suit yourself.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 17:28
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Investigations into the bloody attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hedbo suggest it was financed from abroad, was hatched as long ago as three years ago and involved a terrorist cell of as many as 10 people, many of whom are still at large.
Christophe Crepin, a French police union representative, says several people are being sought in relation to the "substantial" financing of the cell, that included the three gunmen involved in a three-day reign of terror last week in France.
CBS News, quoting unidentified sources, reported Tuesday that Said Kouachi, one of two gunmen who attacked Charlie Hebdo, returned from Yemen in 2011 with $20,000 from the terrorist group Al-Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, to finance the operation.
Seventeen people were killed during the terrorist attacks that began with an assault on the newspaper that left 12 people dead. Said Kouachi, 34, and his brother Chérif Kouachi, 32, were fatally shot two days later by security forces in a town north of Paris.
The third gunman, Amedy Coulibaly, 32, was accused of killing a police woman last week and of taking over a kosher supermarket in eastern Paris on Friday, killing four people. He was also shot and killed by security forces on Friday.
As investigators attempt to piece together the terrorist cell behind the attacks, police officials tell the Associated Press that authorities are searching the Paris area for the Mini Cooper registered to Hayat Boumediene, Coulibaly's widow. Turkish officials say she is now in Syria.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 18:54
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Investigations into the bloody attack on the satirical newspaper Charlie Hedbo suggest it was financed from abroad, was hatched as long ago as three years ago and involved a terrorist cell of as many as 10 people, many of whom are still at large.
If they are still at large, why are the cops spilling this to the press?
Turkish officials say she is now in Syria
They would, wouldn't they?
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 20:26
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Turkish officials say she is now in Syria.

Where she is Right This Minute nobody knows, but she flew from Paris to Madrid and on to Turkey from there.
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Old 13th Jan 2015, 23:34
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May the Force de Frappe be with Her

Turkish officials say she is now in Syria.

Where she is Right This Minute nobody knows, but she flew from Paris to Madrid and on to Turkey from there.
That said the Daesh folks in Syria and Iraq are taking substantially more casualties than the French
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