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Old 12th Nov 2014, 13:02
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pax wrote:

This one instance where Americans don't seek to impose their standards and opinions on the rest of the World.
No, for the most part as far as the 2nd Amendment and the owning of firearms is concerned, we don't impose on others.

Unlike those in this thread who have no business, whatsoever, insinuating what we should do.

But do keep in mind the last time, a few hundred years back of course, that someone from that neck of the woods tried to impose their will upon us, it got quite a bit ugly and the imposers were eventually shown the door. (Which hit them resoundingly in the ass on their way out.)
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:36
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Gosh, ferriners still at it, trying to instruct us 'poor, violent, ignorant 'Muricans' on what we should do and how we should act?

Whining does seem to fit the European model.
Actually, doing anything, well, not so much, but they sure do give good speeches - Munich, as just one example.

Meanwhile, the 400 rounds put down a couple of semi-auto spouts sure were fun!

And I didn't have to ask permission from any government entity.

And that makes all the difference.

Have fun pointing out all the faults of the United States. And there are many, to be sure.

But somehow, it still totters on as the leader in so many areas. So much so that many of those foreign countries look to the U.S. to be the trend-setter and ultimate guarantor of policy.

I do enjoy a good lecture from the ankle-biters. It is a fantastic hearing test to pick up the high pitched whines. After some years of exposure to jet turbine whines (American, of course!) and gunfire (mostly American, but some German - funny how some of the best gun manufacturers are European.), the hearing is starting to slip.

As I can still hear the mosquito-like whining drone, I know I'm still good to go.

Cheers!
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:39
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brick wrote:

I do enjoy a good lecture from the ankle-biters.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:40
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Originally Posted by pax britanica View Post
As I have posted before on here I don't get the heat and tension on this thread .

if US citizens want to own guns that's fine with me. they can't take them out of their country into my country, they can't even take them to Canada (not sure about Mexico but it sounds like it might be a good idea).

This one instance where Americans don't seek to impose their standards and opinions on the rest of the World.

So if they want to carry a .22 pistol ina handbag or have a multi barrel minigun or grenade launcher attached to their pick up that's fine by me and we should leave them alone
Only Eric Holder can take guns to Mexico.

Americans can, and do, take guns to Canada.

A .22 in a handbag? That would be silly. A nice, lady's .38, or a .380 would be appropriate.

 
Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:41
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Dushan:

What in the name of God, and all that is holy, is that a photo of, a pea shooter in pink? A water pistol?
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:44
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Brick, even on pond-right the epithets of "gun nutter", "gun fondler" and "tag team troll" become irritating. Enjoy the tools to which you have a right, and if by any chance you can keep a Python clean and ready, it would be a pleasure to rediscover old skills with you should I make it to your neck of the woods!
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 14:50
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Magnus, alas I have no Python. I know one ppruner who does and it is a thing of beauty, but I will let him out himself as that.

I had a Colt Anaconda, but sold it, thinking I could always get another. (Ha! Prices have quadrupled for a mid-range one; pristine ones are far beyond my means (that I could justify, anyway).

I have a good selection of other firearms that you are welcome to try - and I won't have to ask any government's permission to do so.

Regarding the pink Taurus Dushan illustrated, it is the 'cool' thing for women to do when claiming a gun as their own. My wife's perfectly good J-frame .38 has a pink grip. I still will slip it into a front pocket on occasion.

Not that there's anything wrong with that...


P.S. What is it with Brits and dentistry? Or is it unfair to apply such a stereotype to an entire nation?

Britain's National Health Service is going to start the largest ever patient
recall today, after the discovery of a dentist who hadn't cleaned his
instruments properly in 32 years, exposing thousands to blood-borne diseases
like HIV and Hepatitis-C.
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-L...0-Largest-Ever

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Old 12th Nov 2014, 15:07
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He went on the logic, that if the teeth I work on are never cleaned, I don't need to clean the instruments.
 
Old 12th Nov 2014, 15:16
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yep, starting to make more sense now. The nutters follow Breitbart.

Probably all survivalists too????
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 15:24
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Is the incident cited factual? If the sourcing bothers you, it is also available on several UK-based news sites.

Was there an NHS dentist-government running something, what could go wrong-who didn't follow basic sterilization procedures and, thus, some 22,000 patients are potentially at risk?

Do I freely possess firearms and is there absolutely nothing you can do about that condition?

If the answer to any of these questions is no, I'm listening.

If the answer to any of these questions is yes, then perhaps you should A) find another dentist and B) watch for the cold weather. I understand it is deadly to buzzing insects.

Pity those British who don't feel the same regarding personal gun ownership as you had their liberty trampled upon.

Acceptable losses, I guess.

Finally, does stereotyping like "gun nutter" equally apply to dental hygiene mismanagement?
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 15:26
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Yes, radical I know but would you have what it would take to carry it through?
In theory (and thankfully only there) I give up my weapons that are locked in a gun safe as a result of some new law. How am I then safer from the hoodlums in the local San Diego barrio of Logan Heights, whose motto is have gun, will travel? They sure as hell won't give up theirs.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:27
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Typical of the gun nutter thought process.
Thus speaks a closed mind who uses insult rather than intelligence for the basis of his argument.

Devoid of anything other than dislike, the term "gun nutter" rolls off the tongue as easily as 'wog' or 'nigger' or 'dago' or 'kike' or 'chink.'

I think we know what kind of person we are dealing with in AnQrKa.

I have yet to meet a gun owner who is a nut, but I don't think that species is extinct. There are some people on film a few pages back who don't know how to handle a firearm, and those people bother me. Just like people who don't know how to fly trying to fly a plane. (Yes, how dare I use aviation content on PPRuNe Jet Blast!!!) Don't screw around with firearms, treat them correctly. Likewise, when in the garage on the weekend, treat that power saw with care or you may lose a limb.

For our friend with the alleged address in Mexico: if Mexico weren't such a fcuk up as a nation, people wouldn't head north. It is worth recalling that back in the first half of this century, Mexico was one of the major oil producers on the planet. It is still in the top ten, but the PEMEX (nationalized) method seems to have found a way to scare off investment.

http://investorplace.com/2014/01/ene.../#.VGOnTcJMHOE

Interesting that last year a few things were shaken loose in recognition of how Mexico has been slowly killing a goose that should still be laying golden eggs.

Further south, Venezuela (who were early nationalizers of the oil industry, but I think Mexico was the first) is eating its seed corn. Citgo, anyone?

Fifty percent of Citgo was sold to Petróleos de Venezuelain 1986, which
acquired the remainder in 1990, resulting in the current ownership
structure.
In October 2010, Hugo Chavez announced the intention to have Petróleos de
Venezuela sell its Citgo subsidiary calling it a "bad business" and citing low
profits since 2006.
The minimum sale price was set at 10 billion US dollars; however, Petróleos
de Venezuela has been unable to find a buyer at that price.
Nor at any price, given how little investment into plant and property Citgo has made in two of its 3 US refineries.

Maybe there is hope for Mexico yet ... we'll see.

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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:28
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Originally Posted by rgbrock1
What a bunch of shit this statement is. Once these "legal" firearms were stolen, most likely, they then became illegally owned.
I will write it again and maybe you can understand..Almost all those guns are, or were once, legally owned firearms.

Originally Posted by West Coast
In theory (and thankfully only there) I give up my weapons that are locked in a gun safe as a result of some new law. How am I then safer from the hoodlums in the local San Diego barrio of Logan Heights, whose motto is have gun, will travel? They sure as hell won't give up theirs.
The point is that if you were to melt your guns down there would be n number of less guns with the potential to fall into the hands of those chaps you fear.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:29
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LSM,

Whatever you, and fellow travelers, see as a problem; Americans clearly do not see it as one. The recent election only reinforces that fact. Obama and his political team attempted to push bills proposing about 1/2 of what posters like SFFP would want and it died aborning. Then, Colorado voters pulled the
plug by recall on two legislators who led the charge for control measures in that state. Maryland voters saw a many skilled jobs leave their state when Beretta left, that and taxes ended "blue" government there. Connecticut passed new laws and the governor barely squeaked back for a second term. Colt is trying to leave taking many skilled jobs out of state. New York, under Cuomo, passed new and hilariously silly and unenforceable laws, and elected several new Republicans were elected and the northern half of the state turned "red".

You just don't get it--Americans aren't Euros and we don't see things as you do. Get. Over. It.

John Hill. So, Westie disarms and the other chaps just give it up, then. For a man around sheep, you have certainly embraced sheep-like behavior.

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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:30
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf 50
Devoid of anything other than dislike, the term "gun nutter" rolls off the tongue as easily as 'wog' or 'nigger' or 'dago' or 'kike' or 'chink.'
I prefer the term 'gun fondler'.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:33
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Yes, I can see how you would like the word "fondler."


Baaaa...
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:41
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The nutters follow Breitbart.
Actually, the nutters don't follow Breitbart.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:42
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John, what you do with your gun is your business.
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:48
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Originally Posted by galaxy flyer
So, Westie disarms and the other chaps just give it up, then.
That is a challenge that your little friend has inherited from those before him who let their guns fall into criminal hands. Unfortunately I can only presume that he is going to continue on the same path and eventually his guns too will fall into evil hands.

You have a choice, either address the issues or continue as you are until what you fear most comes to pass.

BTW, what is your fascination with sheep?
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Old 12th Nov 2014, 17:49
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Whatever you, and fellow travelers, see as a problem; Americans clearly do not see it as one.
Indeed, and we see the lack of any desire to reduce the number of deaths from gunshots as totally baffling.
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