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Old 9th Nov 2014, 22:00
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Is someone considered a criminal if they can't pass a driving test?
Depends on how you fail the test.
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 22:02
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SFFP,

Does HMG have a law that says, "we think you are a danger to society and, despite the fact you haven't done anything yet, we are going to charge you with a criminal offense"? If so, why hasn't that law been used to detain the fiery Imams? I haven't used a firearm of any type in a crime or threat of crime, but under your regime, I have to endure all sorts of intrusions on my liberty and my home.

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Old 9th Nov 2014, 22:36
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My fault for not asking the right question.

Are you considered a criminal because driving tests exist?
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 22:40
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No, but there is no right to drive. But, I don't have issue with firearms training, a reasonable requirement. What I do disagree with is saying a lawful citizen, having shown some standard of competence, be denied firearms ownership simply because someone in the government thinks they might be dangerous. Prove it!

That said, I seriously doubt it will greatly reduce accidents, marginal effect at best. It won't do anything for idiots like the basketball player who shot himself in a bar or the idiot parent who gave a 5-year old a loaded gun.

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Old 9th Nov 2014, 22:45
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But why would you be considered a criminal if there was a shooting test just because you have a right to own guns?
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 23:10
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Nuh uh: Constitution sez.

When in doubt, play the I can because I am card.

American, that is.

Nothing further needed.

And you still haven't been able to do anything about that inconvenient to you fact.
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 23:18
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What do you have doubt about?
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 23:21
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Nuh uh: Constitution sez.
It says well regulated. Training would seem to be entirely in line with that.
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Old 9th Nov 2014, 23:39
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Not back to using the prefatory clause (SCOTUS term, not mine)argument again.

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Old 9th Nov 2014, 23:45
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When you have to have guns in safes, approved by the government; you have to lock them at a club; take medical exams; cannot carry lawfully; are restricted as to type, number possessed or recency of purchase; have to waive rights to be secure in your home; you are being treated as a criminal, LSM.. I, as opposed by some, have not argument with "shall issue" license contingent on some demonstration of training. That. Is. It.

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Old 10th Nov 2014, 05:56
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I, as opposed by some, have not argument with "shall issue" license contingent on some demonstration of training. That. Is. It.
That's a little unclear to me. Are you saying that you would be happy for training to be mandated?
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 06:10
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You do understand that's there's mandated training in place in many areas of the US currently?

At least for those who want to legally use their weapons. Those in the inner city of Chicago may opt out of that training.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 06:15
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Mandated training is an excellent idea. In the military, during compulsory 2-3 year enlistment.
Much as I agree that compulsory military enlistment is a good idea for many, many people I don't see that one flying over there - you guys love your freedom too much
But at least you agree mandated training is a good idea. Nice to see someone who is willing to compromise
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 06:20
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You do understand that's there's mandated training in place in many areas of the US currently?
Some do, sure. Some don't.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 11:59
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West Coast wrote:

Mandated training is an excellent idea. In the military, during compulsory 2-3 year enlistment.
Roger that. I'm all for it as well.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 12:08
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Well I agree! I think that compulsory military service for ALL young Americans would be an excellent idea. Not so much for the weapons training, but for the discipline that the majority of young kids just dont get at home anymore that will stay with the majority of them for life.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 12:11
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Spot on. Compulsory military service here in the U.S. would also thin out the herds of punk asses running around with their trousers half-way down their asses. Said punk asses will be required to attend U.S. Marine boot camp. All other, not so punk-assed may choose the U.S. Army.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 15:00
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All other, not so punk-assed may choose the U.S. Army, where they will be issued pink tutus..
Fixed it for you Mr. RGB.
 
Old 10th Nov 2014, 15:07
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Wrong Dushan. Only US Army Rangers are issued pink tutus. All others are issued the standard ACU uniform. Pink tutus are only for the elite.

Now, back to our regularly scheduled bout of frigid, arctic air courtesy of O' Canada.
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Old 10th Nov 2014, 19:16
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It's coming. Better get your fleece tutu.
 

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