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Old 24th Aug 2018, 23:06
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I agree with you Ethical in general if not on each specific. I think it was a good article though as it reflects the continuum of national decision making. Different things are tried--those that work are used as a stepping stone whilst those that don't are either modified or discarded. Except for the cranks on the side, I think most people realize this is a sub-millimeter at a time game of progress unless there is something completely out of the blue that upsets the apple cart.

No reasonable person expected that after Singapore Kim would rush out, without even unpacking his suitcase, with a blow torch to start dismantling the weapons and their facilities.

What I enjoyed about the article, and now this news of Pompeo staying at home for the weekend, is in watching what pressures will now be brought to the problem. The bottom line is that Kim needs to show some good faith or anything close to being on the path to that. I think everyone knew that the Americans would not pull back too far over the horizon on this. They have a vested interest and Kim would be making a grave error to think that he is going to push them, by hook or crook, off the peninsula.

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Old 24th Aug 2018, 23:19
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Murdoch? That Melbourne guy?

I have a long, mostly trusted, history with the BBC (news anyway) as does the family going back further. (besides - it was UN news, BBC reporting)
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News is like any other product, if itís packaged the way you like it, youíre more inclined to buy it. The beeb has had itís challenges, economical with the truth to the point that the govt has had to tell them to clean up their act.
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Old 24th Aug 2018, 23:54
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Not wise to limit sources (except utter rubbish ones). So I never have.
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Old 25th Aug 2018, 01:12
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In theory I agree. Packaging looks similar on a number of cereals.....and news organizations.

Choose wisely and diversely.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 22:04
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What comes next? A spat or is the love already over?

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/08/28/w...eninsula-.html

As we have discussed here many times, one has to use a variety of tools to get the job done. Here we see the U.S. seemingly putting away one tool and picking up another in the announcement that no further joint exercises wth SK will be canceled. Interesting way of framing it instead of saying that we are proceeding with plans...

I would guess that these are recurrent exercises that have long been scheduled and planned so nothing shocking.

The real question, and one that makes this so fascinating to watch in 2018, is wondering if we are just returning to a status quo ante or if we are going to see the pendulum gather momentum in another direction?

Again, nothing too revelatory but it shows a slight shift in the wind direction. At least we know that the U.S. and its allies are trying to work the issue and that there seems to be a number of voices within the administration participating. It also shows that apart from all of Mr. Trump's previous bluster that reality is hard to nudge asides.

Does this mean that after one passionate weekend in Singapore the fires of love (or was it lust?) are being banked? Or is it still call me maybe?
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 22:37
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A Tale of Two Egos.
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Old 28th Aug 2018, 22:56
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It was the best of times it was the worst of times...but who is going to play Madame LaFarge?
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 07:59
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Well....over in the whipsaw department we have a two for one sale ongoing as Mr. Trump announced yesterday that the military exercises with SK are still on ice.

I think both friend and foe are losing the plot here. I understand the good cop bad cop routine as well as leveraging points of strength, but I am not sure anyone can keep up with what is going on at the moment--including Mattis, Pompeo, the South Koreans, and China.

Anyone with the decoder ring?
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Old 30th Aug 2018, 11:04
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Now this fine morning, we learn that the Chinese are accusing the POTUS of carelessness and absurdity. The report from the Spiegel implies frustrartion, as i describbed above, as to what the exact requirements and goals are at any one time and what is expected from that point. Simply bleating "compliance" out is not enough. The players need to know the game plan. Keeping both friend and foe confused is not profitable.

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Old 1st Oct 2018, 05:17
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Donald Trump admits to haven fallen in love with Kim Jong Un

By his own admission he is smitten by the corpulent Un. Was it the letters or is there more? Ah but we will never know as love springs from the strangest places.

This time it is serious though. https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...epage_taps_top
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Old 1st Oct 2018, 15:45
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North Korea being sued by people who went from Japan to NK in the 1960's.
"They lied to us!"
That's the law suit.
I guess Mr Kim needs to see his doctor. I imagine he cracked a rib laughing at that one.
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Old 5th Oct 2018, 01:49
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Pompeo frozen out? Kim in the catbird's seat?

Is Pompeo carrying coals to Newcastle this weekend?

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...epage_taps_top
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 11:53
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Now isn't this latest decption special?

Seems the Norks have been beavering away at their missile program. I am shocked I tell you, shocked!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/u...ile-bases.html
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 20:33
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Gee, who say that coming, besides anyone who has paid attention to the Kim family for a few years?
The question is, chto delat? (Что делать? )
My answer is; when the Chinese find it to be a problem, it will get solved.
Not before then.
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 20:48
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Who saw that coming? 95% of the folks here for starters.
Trump - well, No.

Still pondering how exactly this utter dumb-ass made it to Pennsylvania Ave.
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Seems the Norks have been beavering away at their missile program. I am shocked I tell you, shocked!

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/u...ile-bases.html
Fake news! Trump fixed this.
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Old 12th Nov 2018, 23:47
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50 View Post
Gee, who say that coming, besides anyone who has paid attention to the Kim family for a few years?.
Indeed we are shocked! Shocked! Similar to being surprised there is drinking going on in this pub or organised crime down at the dockside.
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