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Old 28th Aug 2014, 18:30
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The BBC TV news tonight featured the father of a young girl who, it was claimed. was repeatedly raped. The father claims he had complained to the police but had not been taken seriously. Is that all he did - complained and then let it continue?

If it was my daughter that was being repeatedly raped by some pervert, I would be going after the perpetrator with the clear intention of making the b*****d feel pain, and making him pray that plod got to him before I did!
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 18:38
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If it was my daughter that was being repeatedly raped by some pervert, I would be going after the perpetrator with the clear intention of making the b*****d feel pain, and making him pray that plod got to him before I did!
+ 100

I'd seriously hope I could get them away to a quiet spot where no one could hear the screams. I'd make sure he couldn't walk properly again, as a permanent reminder.

BTW, that's a lot of parents that did "nothing".
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:13
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When dealing with a gang of hardened perps, who in one case threatened to gang rape the girl's mother if she complained again (AFTER the SY police "lost" the semen stained clothing she had given them!) there comes a time when what does a father do who is not a big heavy plug ugly?

To my mind, the SYP need a VERY in depth investigation.....and not by the IPCC who appear to be pretty useless.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:22
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Now this is this a cop out. Person who was in charge of child services in Rotherham from 2005 - 2008 now works in Oz.

"The report says by 2005, nobody in authority could say “we didn’t know”."
Last sentence she says
"When she took on the role she was briefed on the town’s sexual exploitation problem.Tackling sexual exploitation
became a key priority for her
, she said."


What a load of crap.


A HIGH-ranking Victorian education official was a senior figure in a town where a massive child sexual exploitation scandal is now rocking the UK. Dr Sonia Sharp is the Education Department’s deputy secretary of education and early childhood development and leader of the early childhood and school education group.
From 2005-2008 she was director of children’s services at Rotherham Metropolitan Borough Council, South Yorkshire.
A damning report has found at least 1400 children were sexually exploited in the town from 1997 to 2013.
The report says by 2005, nobody in authority could say “we didn’t know”.
Dr Sonia Sharp, who has worked for the department since 2012, issued a statement to the Herald Sun. She said the report was “painful reading”.
“You can’t be a director of children’s services and not take responsibility for what happens to children. I am sorry that these children and young people suffered terrible abuse and I wish we could have done more to prevent the abuse of children and young people in Rotherham.”
When she took on the role she was briefed on the town’s sexual exploitation problem.
Tackling sexual exploitation became a key priority for her, she said.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:26
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there comes a time when what does a father do who is not a big heavy plug ugly?
Plenty of people around to do the dirty work if needed.

Crims, even hardened crims generally don't like child molesters.
So plenty of bikies / crims to choose from.

Then you have the fact they are Pakis so finding some race hate / White supremacy group of
skin heads / thugs would be an avenue here.

I doubt it would cost much to have someone's legs shattered with a piece of 4 x 2,
enough to make them hurt and limp. Ankles, knees and wrists rarely heal completely.

You could always go to Ireland, plenty over there would do the job.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:41
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Originally Posted by 4mastacker View Post
The BBC TV news tonight featured the father of a young girl who, it was claimed. was repeatedly raped. The father claims he had complained to the police but had not been taken seriously. Is that all he did - complained and then let it continue?
One of the stories that has come out of the Rotherham scandal concerns a father who actually tried to retrieve his daughter from a house where she had been lured. SYP intervened and threatened to arrest him. For trying to rescue his daughter from a bunch of paedophiles.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again; those in authority who had intelligence of what was going on but who, by failing to take action themselves or obstructing those who were, effectively facilitated child rape and should be arrested and charged as an accessory to the crime.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 19:45
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How can that be ?

Surely if you tell the Police that she has been kidnapped and held against her will they have to investigate and help ????

I reckon if you stood outside and shouted Fire, they would come running - as has been proven many times,
you are better off shouting Fire than Rape !!!
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 20:20
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I'd make sure he couldn't walk properly again
Bloody liberals.

If it was me, they would vanish. Painfully.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 20:24
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If I could get away with it, so would I, but I think it's a lot harder in the UK than in more remote places !!!

So at least a lifetime of pain when trying to do anything - walk, hold things
is a poor substitute but it would suffice.

I forgot to add, a few damaging whacks in the nether regions as well.

It hurts to get hit / kneed there, I'd hate to think what a piece of wood would do !!!
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 20:49
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f I could get away with it, so would I, but I think it's a lot harder in the UK than in more remote places
Easier than you think.

The UK has plenty of "remote" places. True, not like Aus or the 'states, but enough that will keep the authorities guessing for a long time. My favourite is the King of moors, Dartmoor. Toss a body anywhere, it will be GONE. Sheep eating it, the spirits reclaiming a soul, or just the fact that it has bogs on a 45 degree plane! (yomping up a hill, that is bog/marsh, gives new respect to nature). Whatever your thoughts, no one has ever escaped from HMP Dartmoor, the British Alcatraz.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 20:57
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The media are desperately thrashing about looking for sex criminals with surnames like Smith or Jones they can point too, providing a bit of balance I suppose, and probably on orders from above.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:01
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Accountability of public figures no matter how lowly is a rarity in the UK.

I expect no arrests, no charges and no convictions, although I do expect a lot of 'hand-wringing' by the so-called Professionals (always a totally misused term) whilst they all cling on to their jobs.

I suspect though this is endemic throughout society as a whole, honourable resignations are a thing of the past, the philosophy today is to cling on ( la Maria Miller) for as long as possible.

In itself another reflection of the times we live in.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:02
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The media are desperately thrashing about looking for sex criminals with surnames like Smith or Jones they can point too, providing a bit of balance I suppose, and probably on orders from above.
It's rather too transparent isn't it? I have just listened to 20 minutes of a BBC report into the affair where not *once* was the ethnicity of the alleged perpetrators mentioned.

It's like that big white elephant in the room that everybody is trying to ignore.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:07
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQicl2US5UA
(sorry, forgot the special Utube code to post direct!

Dirty sex talk!

Adml Drapes (hon)
It is the Gardinista's trying to make sure that the BBC is 'balanced' in its reporting.
Paki's are abusing children. Therefore the BBC needs to find Anglo-Saxons doing the same, so it is all balanced!
Flame throwers to the fore!
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:13
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You know what gets me about this whole set up.

You read in the media - UK and Aus where said "Professionals" hear or find out about a little kid
belonging to a white family who has a bruise or two on his leg or arm et al.

Straight away, they are onto them, remove the kid(s) from the family
until it is all investigated and cleared up.

Causing much angst on the part of everyone, especially when it is not warranted but these child services
have so much power it is not funny.

Yet, when presented with worse case scenarios, they do nothing.

The lady in Victoria who was in Rotherham as director of child services
is a classic example. I know how much power they have here in Aus
yet mud won't stick to her.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:40
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BBC News - Rotherham abuse victim: 'Police lost my evidence'
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 21:48
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That's a pretty damning video.

Sounds to me like this story is gathering a bit of momentum
and some more might not get away with it.
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 22:07
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The Rotherham Council leader Roger Stone resigned immediately after responding to the report.

News about the Rotherham and Dearne Valley areas - Council leader Roger Stone quits over child grooming report

At least he has played the white man.

During his comprehensive farewell speech he stated that none of the officers responsible for the 'abuse' were still working for the council, therefore there were no sanctions that he could apply to any current staff member.

Whether the police (!) could retrospectively charge those involved at the time (including Shaun Wright the current Police and Crime Commissioner)?

What chance that the police can be motivated to investigate those responsible for not responding when they themselves were so inert?
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 22:09
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Why is nobody mentioning the abusers?do they get clean way with it?
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Old 28th Aug 2014, 22:12
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Good point.

Why are they not being investigated and arrested or charged ?

Or do we have to wait 30 - 40 years ?????
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