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Old 11th Mar 2018, 18:08
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Not a trace on BBC/MSM either...hypernormalisation in action god help us all.
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Old 11th Mar 2018, 20:25
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From 2013...

Barnardo's staff were working with police but they seemed powerless to catch them, let alone gain convictions. "I thought, I don't care what race these guys are, a group of men are being allowed to violate young girls and get away with it."
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-abuse-telford
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 10:54
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Toleration of aberrant serious crimes to keep peace among a particular segment of society?


Does not add up. A planned failure.
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 11:22
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Actually this was the first item on BBC Radio 4's Woman's Hour this morning. I rarely listen to the programme because of its constant man-bashing but I gave it a go this morning. Discussed at some length.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b09tyznx#play
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 11:39
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The fact the BBC continues to ignore this story is disgraceful.
What a load of [email protected]!

This was all over yesterday's morning news on BBC1. Victoria Derbyshire's program is covering it in detail. In fact one of the victims has just stated that there were abusers from ALL races involved.

Lets not turn this into a bash the BBC thread (again)!
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 11:51
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Where are the fathers ,uncles and brothers of these children ?


If the Parents and relatives of these abused children realise that the shame of the abuse is the abusers shame ,and not the victims shame .
Shame the perverts . Name them and shame them.


Once the victims realise the shame is not their shame ,the healing can begin.
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 12:03
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So daily wall to wall coverage for a bit of snow and a huge child abuse scandal is relegated to Womans Hour & Victoria Derbyshire. Very good.
I agree the constant weather reporting during 'a bit of snow' was ridiculous but I was responding to the comment that the BBC/MSM were/are ignoring this story. It isn't and didn't. The Victoria Derbyshire program is on BBC1/2 and the BBC News channel for about two hours in the morning. It covered this item in depth. a lot more in-depth than some other 'news' outlets I could mention. It was on every hourly news bulletin yesterday and continues today.

Unfortunately, Boris Johnson is hogging most of the headlines this morning.

The MSM/BBC are not the problem. The way people in authority deal with complaints of this kind is the true scandal.
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 12:13
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Not much difference between those who travel to Thailand and Vietnam as sexual tourists in seek of younger LBFMs and these perverts who live down the road.
Some people are shameless ,but the victims need to know that it is not the victims crime ,and not their failure . But a type of perversion that can only cured with a full frontal lobotomy .
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 12:19
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As for it being a multi race problem, sorry but that is just the kind of response that stops the real issues being addressed. Naz Shah would be happy with that response.
On GMB this morning, Piers and Susanna discussed this at length with a journalist from the Mirror, and a victim speaking under anonymity.
The piece lasted around eight to ten minutes and not once, I repeat not once, was the cultural and religious background of the perpetrators even hinted at.
It was as if a fatwa had been issued by the station producers forbidding any mention of the common link shared by the abusers.
If they are not even going to address this key fact, they may as well give up and any further discussion is pointless.
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 12:40
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The piece lasted around eight to ten minutes and not once, I repeat not once, was the cultural and religious background of the perpetrators even hinted at.
More kudos for the BBC then. About 14 mins into this...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...shire-12032018

Warning this is very hard to listen to.

Telford abuse: 'I was sold twice a night' - BBC News
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 13:29
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Originally Posted by TURIN View Post
What a load of [email protected]!

This was all over yesterday's morning news on BBC1. Victoria Derbyshire's program is covering it in detail. In fact one of the victims has just stated that there were abusers from ALL races involved.

Lets not turn this into a bash the BBC thread (again)!

Indeed..........the BBC is GREAT, love it !!!
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 14:43
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Said it before, will say it again:

Patriarch culture
Archaic/tribal culture
Women viewed by standards totally seperate from menīs
Very young girls accepted as being f*able
From countries plagued by violence
Sexually repressive culture

...will all increase the probability that men will do this. These are NOT neutral factors in a person, and I will stand by my opinion that while all countries have their share of scum, some have a higher share. Because of said factors.

It makes a difference wether such an act is a BREACH of your cultural values (as in our own scumbags) or an EXAGGERATION of them, as in these cases.
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 14:56
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Originally Posted by Krautwald View Post
Said it before, will say it again:

Patriarch culture
Archaic/tribal culture
Women viewed by standards totally seperate from menīs
Very young girls accepted as being f*able
From countries plagued by violence
Sexually repressive culture

...will all increase the probability that men will do this. These are NOT neutral factors in a person, and I will stand by my opinion that while all countries have their share of scum, some have a higher share. Because of said factors.

It makes a difference wether such an act is a BREACH of your cultural values (as in our own scumbags) or an EXAGGERATION of them, as in these cases.
Yup, Gary Glitter and Jimmy Saville were exactly part of such a culture, with hundreds of victims suffering at their hands. Trouble is the same culture exists today, and Saville and Glitter had many accomplices, most of whom will never be exposed, many of whom are still alive. Stones and boulders dear boy, stones and boulders........
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Old 13th Mar 2018, 15:33
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Read again - a breach or an exaggeration?
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Old 15th Mar 2018, 00:27
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It really pisses me off when they call the grooming gangs "Asian"... when what they really mean is (the vast majority 90%+) Afghan, Iraqi and Pakistani Muslims.... and we all play their charade even though we all know the truth.

Imagine being Indian or Chinese and being tarred with that brush daily... it is the media here that is in fact being racist by generalising a tad too far.

It's filth from a few select countries and a specific religion as much as it pains the liberal media to accept.
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Old 30th May 2018, 06:09
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https://news.sky.com/story/rotherham...otten-11388560

Rotherham child abuse whistleblower: 'Victims are being forgotten'

The whistleblower who exposed the Rotherham child abuse scandal has told Sky News that the issue of gang-related child exploitation has been "forgotten" by the government and "victims are being let down." It comes as 20 MPs from areas where there have been high-profile cases of sexual grooming have written to the home secretary calling for more action to tackle the problem.

Jayne Senior was the social worker who in 2011 helped uncover industrial scale child sexual grooming in Rotherham by gangs of mostly Asian men. She says promises the government made to resource the police and provide care for victims have not been kept. Mrs Senior told Sky News: "I think Rotherham has been forgotten. When I went to see David Cameron in 2015, I naively believed that this issue would be resourced. That the victims would be given an opportunity to not only come forward but also to receive support around therapy and counselling. But that hasn't happened."

A cross-party group of MPs has written to Home Secretary Sajid Javid calling for more action. Signed by Labour, Conservative and Liberal Democrat MPs from areas where there has been organised child abuse, the letter states: "Cases of gang related child sexual exploitation, such as those in Rotherham, Telford and in Newcastle conform to a precise model of recruitment, manipulation and exploitation. Despite these commonalities, we are not aware of any research being undertaken to understand the drivers for this kind of crime. We believe the Government should commission research covering the specifics of gang grooming including the national networks in which this crime exists."

The MPs also want the home secretary to confirm that child grooming is still being treated as a national threat, as promised by David Cameron. The top two signatories are Sarah Champion Labour MP for Rotherham and Lucy Allen, Conservative MP for Telford. Ms Champion told Sky News: "The government are failing on their promises, they've been telling me personally for over three years now that they're going to prevent this crime, that they're going to properly resource the police, that they're going to resource social services but that just hasn't translated into action."

Responding to the letter, a Home Office spokesperson said: "This Government is working to tackle child sexual exploitation, declaring it a national threat and making significant investment to protect children, support victims, and bring perpetrators to justice. All victims and survivors of child sexual abuse should be confident that they will get the support that they need."

Mrs Senior clearly thinks this isn't happening. She said: "I thought we'd have a blank piece of paper and we'd be able to look at education, policing, law and social services, but that's not happened. Here we are four years on still reliant on small charities to offer what I believe should be a mandatory service. This is not just a six-month quick fix."

Sky News also spoke to "Elizabeth" who was groomed, trafficked and abused in Rotherham from the age of 14. She went to court, the perpetrators were convicted, but she says there's been little support for her and other victims. She told Sky News: "We've organised car boot sales and sponsored walks to raise money so we can get counselling. I'm on an 18-month waiting list to get help.

"This is what's always happens in Rotherham. We're always put second."



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Old 30th May 2018, 07:35
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As you are likely well aware most (if not all) of the victims were sadly from poorer communities, those with socioeconomic profiles that perhaps leads to a sense of powerlessness, ignored by the elites as essentially worthless (strong words but so it seems). You can be sure if a few percent were daughters of upper middle class professionals (who well know how to engineer a fuss) the response would be somewhat less lackadaisical. In my view this is a microcosm of how the wider public are treated by politicians, coming into sharper focus as awareness rises. It won't end well, sentiment is a changing, unrest is brewing.

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Old 14th Jun 2018, 07:04
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Grooming gang jailed

An Asian grooming gang have been jailed for subjecting five vulnerable teenage girls, some as young as 13, to years of sexual abuse. Offences were committed between 1998 and 2005 in cars, parks and at addresses in Oxford. Assad Hussain, 37, of east Oxford, was convicted of five rapes, three charges of conspiracy to rape and two indecent assaults, and was jailed for life. Seven other men were given sentences of up to 15 years at Oxford crown court. The trial is the latest in a lengthy list of cases involving Asian grooming gangs. There have been 17 trials since 2011.
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 08:53
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There is some controversy over the term ‘Asian grooming gangs’. Many Sikh and Hindus will point out that it is mainly Pakistani Muslim men who form these gangs.

They will tell you that young Sikh and Hindu girls are targeted along with white girls.

I think in this particular case the men where all Kashmiri Muslims.
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Old 14th Jun 2018, 09:25
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Originally Posted by flash8 View Post

Imagine being Indian or Chinese and being tarred with that brush daily... it is the media here that is in fact being racist by generalising a tad too far.
I agree with the whole post. As for the quoted bit, might it be the media legal departments insisting on it Flash?

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