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Old 4th Aug 2014, 18:15
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The Madness Of It All

I've been trying for some years to get together a CD of antiwar songs, the profits to be donated to veterans' charities, but I never seem to be able to get the time to find out who owns the copyrights.

So I thought I'd share the tracks and sleeve notes with ppruners in the hope that at least somebody will be moved by them, or even somebody who knows how to get track permissions will be able to help. I can get the CDs made, and I have the sleeve design already done.

if you haven't already got the tracks yourselves, you can hear them/download them from itunes, etc.

Songs Of Sacrifice

Some songs with something to say about war and protest, all fine examples of the songwriter’s art, and powerful indictments against the whole silly mess. They are often very subtle, so listen to the words! And have a handkerchief nearby! Of course, musicians count too, and so do producers, and this collection shows off their skills as well.

Hey Sandy!
Sandra Lee Scheuer was one of the four students shot dead by the National Guard, for reasons best known to themselves, at Kent State campus on May 4th 1970. 11 others were injured. The electric guitar that represents her scream when she gets shot is spine-chilling. This is written and performed by Harvey Andrews, who shares Gilbert O’Sullivan’s ability to get the maximum amount of words into a line, with the help of Ralph McTell (guitar and vocals), Cozy Powell (drums), Paul Keogh (electric guitar) and Danny Thompson (bass).

Another hard-hitting one from Harvey Andrews, a true story about a paratroop sergeant (Mick Willets, GC) who laid himself over a bomb in Springfield Road Barracks to protect nearby children. This was banned from the playlist of many local Northern Ireland radio stations. Can’t think why.

Ladies Go Dancing at Whitsun
Set to music by the Copper family, based on a poem by John Austin Marshall in early '67, this song tells of a village in Sussex whose menfolk went off to war in 1914 with the Royal Sussex Regiment and never came back, so the tradition of dancing round the maypole (or the war memorial, which replaced it) was carried on by the women. Whitsun is a traditional British spring holiday, which happens on or around Pentecost (usually about the third week in May). It gets its name from the white outfits of Morris Dancers, being the official start of the Morris Dancing season, a subject taken very seriously then, although looked on with some scorn nowadays (some of the first people to land in Canada in 1583 were Morris Dancers). This version is sung by Martin Carthy with a very effective string arrangement in the background.

A Mac Davies song, well sung by Gary Puckett, who, like Karen Carpenter, can’t have sung a wrong note in his life. His rich voice adds a poignant note to a song about soldiers in Vietnam, or anywhere, missing their homes and wishing they were any place but where they are.

The Green Fields of France
An Eric Bogle song, sung by John McDermott, about the 1st World War, in the form of an open letter to Willie McBride, an Irish soldier whose grave is being sat upon by a visitor to a Western Front cemetery.

McDermott has a way of singing songs in a slower tempo than they should be, making them more graceful. It gets the point of Eric’s words across very well. Eric called this one No Mans Land on his own CD.

The Band Played Waltzing Matilda
Another Bogle/McDermott collaboration, this time about Gallipoli the ANZAC landings at Gallipoli in 1915 and the sacrifice paid by so many. Some fine violin work in this one. It is Australia’s most recorded song, and no wonder.

What Have They Done To The Rain?
No collection of this type would be complete without Malvina Reynolds’ beautiful song (although it is sometimes attributed to Pete Seeger). This version is from The Seekers, with Judith Durham’s voice providing an ethereal, ghostly feel.

The Side Of A Hill
From The Paul Simon Songbook, an album from the early 60s, which would appear only to have been issued in UK. Few people could express the futility of it all any better. Or clearer. The words reappear behind the Simon & Garfunkel track, Scarborough Fair, which was originally obtained from Martin Carthy, and appeared on the Sounds of Silence album. They are still very relevant, even today.

Fighting For Strangers
Steeleye Span, with a nice production of an old song.

The Hangman And The Papist
From the Strawbs' Witchwood album. It has a medieval flavour, but it’s actually a comment about Northern Ireland, where relatives often find themselves pitched against one another. The way the tempo changes towards the climax is very stirring.

The Bantry Girl's Lament
A lovely little song sung from the viewpoint of those mourning the departure of a young Irishman who is off fighting the King of Spain with the British Colonial Army. This version comes from a group called Reeltime, and it is sung as only the Irish can sing.

Stranger In a Strange Land
Barbra Streisand singing her heart out on behalf of soldiers everywhere

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Can't help you with copyright etc, but here are two more:

Where have all the flowers gone - Pete Seeger

Universal soldier - Donovan Leitch
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Eve of Destruction, Barry McGuire
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The Dubliners - The Sun is Burning
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Strangest Dream by Ed McCurdy (I think)

Johnny I hardly knew ye
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Masters of War- Bob Dylan
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Masters of War- Bob Dylan
If you can get the version of this that Eddie Vetter of Pearl Jam sang at a tribute to Bob Dylan, use it. Surpasses the original.

I Ain't Marching Anymore by Phil Ochs
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There won't be many coming home - Roy Orbison
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And then there's The Draft Dodger Rag

After an excellent landing etc...
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Mr Knopfler's "Done with Bonaparte",the lyrics are a cut above.
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Masters of War- Bob Dylan
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How Would You Feel - Curtis Knight/Jimi Hendrix.

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This should be the final song on your cd.

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Lyrics here: Sting - Every bomb you make [from spitting image] Lyrics | SongMeanings
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Angry Cold war song

"Its good news week"by Hedgehoppers anonymous.
Remember ?Someones dropped a bomb somewhere contaminating the atmosphere and blackening the sky.
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Didn't a group called Fisher Z sing a few anti war songs ?

or were they just anti nuke ?
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or in English:

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Red Gum's "I Was Only Nineteen". Iconic Vietnam-era dirge.

And if you want some truly excellent contemporary war songs (as opposed to anti-war songs) take a look on YouTube for Fred Smith and any of the songs on his "Dust of Uruzgan" CD, in particular, the title song and also "A Sapper's Lullaby". I have NEVER seen any entertainer get it so right from the soldier's point of view as Fred Smith does.
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How about Country Joe and the Fish - "I-Feel-Like-I'm-Fixin'-To-Die-Rag"

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The Unknown Soldier - The Doors
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