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Old 17th Dec 2013, 17:28
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Jesus was a white man and Santa is a penguin...

Stupidity 1: On Slate someone decides that a white Santa is exclusive of non-white children. The suggestion is that Santa should instead be a penguin. Yep, a penguin. Regardless of the fact that he is imaginary and it therefore really doesn't matter and regardless of the fact that how parents deal with this issue is up to them (and the fact that the author wasn't happy about how her parents dealt with it is, frankly, her problem), this person has decided that Santa must be a penguin.

Stupidity 2: Fox News' Megyn Kelly has a "debate" about the article on her show (video available through previous link). Not only is debating such stupidity itself stupid, but she comes out with the absolute corker
"You know, I mean, Jesus was a white man, too,” Kelly said. “He was a historical figure; that's a verifiable fact" (see 1:47 on the video)
Laughable from both sides!

(For any kids reading this, it is of course just us adults having a joke: Santa does exist and looks exactly like the Coke bottles, and Jesus is imaginary )
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I wonder what Ms. Kelly would say if she finally realized that Jesus was not a white man but a dark-skinned Jew?
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Old 17th Dec 2013, 17:37
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She put out a statement after that broadcast which included:
By the way, I also did say Jesus was white as I've learned in the past two days, that is far from settled.
I doubt it's that far from settled...

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I would love to see her verfication that said son of god was a historical figure.
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How white is white?

Is light olive tan, Greek, white?
Is a bit deeper olive tan, Holy Land area, white?

Compared to what?

A Zulu or a Scot with lineage from highland clans?
What's your basis of comparison?

Seems to be all relative, doesn't it?
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Old 17th Dec 2013, 17:54
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I think Eddie Izzard gets exactly what she means...
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Fg Blasphamy! every body knows that Santa's a Scotsman!
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Bad news...

I have visited the grave of Saint Nicholas.

It's in Turkey, so that I guess he must have been some sort of proto-Turk. He was pre-Islamic, though, and some sort or other of Xtian, so have no worries that he's coming down the chimney with a dagger in his teeth to sort out we kaffirs.
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Sorry to bust your bubble, chuks, but Santa ain't comin' down no damn chimney no more. Why not? Because I did him in a few years ago. See?

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As the American Liberals who are so exercised over her comments generally reject the notion of Jesus.....I am buggered to understand why they care what hue Ms. Kelly says he was.

As to Santa Claus.....he being an obese fellow who scarfs down tons of Cookies and other leavings each Year in a Binge Eating thing....again the Liberals amongst us would find him quite detestable for that along with his putting strings onto any giving he doles out to those with their greedy wee hands turned palm upward. Why that just flies in the face of how they think of social welfare. Not to mention his abuse of animals and the vertically challenged which surely earns their disgust.

I would think the Liberals would embrace anyone who makes mock of those two characters. Jesus, who believed in work-fare and paying taxes....surely would not garner any warm feelings by our Liberal friends.
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Isn't the fat Santa that we know and love a concoction of the Coca Cola marketing department? Who says capitalists don't bring joy...even if it is in the form of an obese old dude who drinks cocaine infused sugar water and seems to spend an inordinate amount of time with 'little people.'

Now, the traditional St. Nick was a skinny fellow...well, not North Korean skinny but certainly not the chubby fellow we know today.

The Netherlands has skinny Sinterklaas, but don't mention Zwarte Piet to the liberals!
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I am buggered to understand why they care what hue Ms. Kelly says he was.
Because someone making such a fool of themselves in such a public forum is funny. It simply reinforces that what she says is unresearched and unprepared.
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Isn't the fat Santa that we know an love a concoction of the CocaCola marketing departments?
Apparently not, although they did help spread that view of him: snopes.com: Did Coca-Cola Invent the Modern Image of Santa Claus?
Black Pete is ace, btw. I'm particularly loving the Hungarian Evil Santa, Krampus.
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How white is white?
an extra good question. Someone I met some years ago totally puzzled me by saying: "I'm dark." - well, I just envied her tanned complexion ...
Well, the world is mad anyway.

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That is a terrifying and frightening picture of evil Santa. What IS he going to do with those poor kids? Were they so naughty as to deserve such punishment?

Evil Santa, as depicted, needs to be shot. A double-tap to the forehead comes to mind.
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In Holland, Santa gives the kids a good kicking

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Stupidity 1: On Slate someone decides that a white Santa is exclusive of non-white children. The suggestion is that Santa should instead be a penguin. Yep, a penguin. Regardless of the fact that he is imaginary and it therefore really doesn't matter and regardless of the fact that how parents deal with this issue is up to them (and the fact that the author wasn't happy about how her parents dealt with it is, frankly, her problem), this person has decided that Santa must be a penguin.
Of course it is stupidity. Santa comes from the North Pole, penguins live on the South Pole. What do you expect from Slate.
 
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I thought they lived in Convents?
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I would sooo love to see the likes of Ms Kelly coming up against a decent journalist prepared to take her to task about her comments...

Paxo vs Ms Kelly would be a mouthwatering encounter and, in deference to the Murdoch business model, one I'd happily pay to see. The outcome of such an encounter? About 7-1 to Mr Paxman is my best guess.

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I would love to see her verfication that said son of god was a historical figure

She doesn't have to. Already been proven. But if you've got evidence otherwise, love to hear it.
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Old 18th Dec 2013, 03:00
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He sure ain't contemporary now is he?
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