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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:27
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Obesity - a good thing?

Just read on the medical forum about an airline pilot who had a MI. He died. He weighed 300lbs.

Which got me thinking. Much ado is made about being Obese in the UK (no doubt the world). About the costs to the NHS etc. But what is not often advertised is that obese people statistically die between 10 and 17 yrs earlier than everyone else who is 'normal' [<30 BMI?].
Surely, therefore this is very good news for the NHS because they don't have to fork out for fatties when they try to get old - no?
Has there been a study on the financial delta between supporting obese persons when they are alive and kicking (not much kicking!!) and when they snuff it prematurely?
Two sugars please.....................
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:33
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In small quantities....

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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:46
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The NHS should promote base jumping as a hobby for fat, alcoholic, 40-a-day smokers. Save a fortune, it would.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:51
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Would be interesting to know whether the cost of these fatties and smokers whilst alive costs more or less than having to pay them far fewer years of pensions and housing benefit etc etc??
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Protection workers closed books on boy who died of obesity, court told
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:52
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But Magnus, what aboot all the tax from fags you'd lose?

Circa 10 billion quid income from smokers. Circa 1.7 billion cost of smokers to NHS.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 11:55
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Most of the low life smokers don't use UK tax paid ciggies or baccy
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The NHS should promote base jumping as a hobby for fat, alcoholic, 40-a-day smokers. Save a fortune, it would.
Funnily enough BASE jumpers tend to be skinny little vegans.
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low life smokers don't use UK tax paid ciggies or baccy
Correct, and they DO use UK tax-funded services to deal with the additional problems caused by all the crap that passes for the baccy you buy from a bloke down the pub.
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Still 10 billion quid of income that'll be lost.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 12:06
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^^^^^^ That's because the lazy , thick, feckwits in Whitehall decide to increase the taxes to a greater level than the "point of diminishing returns".

At a certain tipping-point, even the most upright citizen realises that they would be doing a disservice to "bank of self and family" if they continued to ignore readily- available "alternative" sources of supplies of high tax and Duty consumables.

A good tax regime maximises returns for the Authority,- that means balancing revenue-rates against the viability of circumvention.

We have a p155-poortax-regime.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 12:55
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Yes, governments just love tobacco. Kills off a lot of the population and massive revenue is generated in the form of taxes.

In a lot of countries now, if you are diagnosed with lung cancer for e.g., will not operate until the patient has given up smoking for a "reasonable" period of time. Too late then of course. However as the blood of a smoker is poisoned, with tar, arsenic to name just 2, any part of the body is at risk.

How does one calculate their BMI?
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"The NHS should promote base jumping as a hobby for fat, alcoholic, 40-a-day smokers. Save a fortune, it would."

Then you will end up with a whole load of ankle, knee and god knows what else problems !!!


"Two sugars please....................."
That will make you obese.

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500N - I never knew that about sugar -

In fact I think the government are responsible for all of this. They have a secret department of "HARM" (Health and remedial Meddling) which propagates the myth that eating, smoking, slimming and drinking alcohol....is good for people in general. Because this department certainly hasn't reported back to the government to insist that any of these should be banned?

All of the above are a massive tax generator for the government. All of the above kill thousands and thousands of unsuspecting people as they imbibe, oblivious to the simple fact that the real reason for them legally participating is stealth tax on a massive scale. Another huge spin off is reduction in the rate of demographics which would normally demand NHS and associated support mechanisms when normal people grow old, get ill and eventually fall over and die. A win win all the way for the government of the day. Bravo.

Perhaps we should export the idea.....................oh.....................it seems we have.....globally.

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It was more a ref to me and the effect two sugars had on me and my waistline
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 15:21
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Who cares ?

I'm 66 with a BMI of 23.

I eat full fry brekkies and drink lossa scotch.

Very partial to pasta as well.
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Old 29th Oct 2013, 18:13
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BMI

Dan, BMI = weight in KG divided by your height in metres squared. E.g. My height is 1.8 metres. That squared is 3.24. Weight is 76 kg.

76 divided by 3.24 equals BMI equals BMI 23.45.
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Mmm, in American. 200 lbs, c 6' (and subsiding with age), 27.7 Is that bad?
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I lost it once when told by a Capt Doc at my last Army medical
that I was bordering on Obese. 5, 11, 86 - 90kg and was fit.

Doesn't take into account type of build.
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