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Old 9th Oct 2013, 17:32
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" The UK citizens have no HAND GUNS but plenty of Rifles and Shotguns" .

Do we ?......so, can you provide supportive evidence to this statement, such as the quantity and ownership ratio perhaps...certainly with rifles.

I haven't actually seem many people carrying rifles in the UK, so I may be missing something here that I was unaware of.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 17:38
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Don't have any Stats, don't know what the ration is, sorry.
I doubt it is very high percentage wise.

"I haven't actually seem many people carrying rifles in the UK, so I may be missing something here that I was unaware of. "

Well, like Australia, you wouldn't unless you were at a range or
out hunting. People tend not to walk down the street with them


In any case, I thought we were talking after law and order
had broken down ?
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 17:46
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Krystal,

And faced with the situation you describe, and we all know about the tragic event thank you, what, precisely, would you have done as an individual had you encountered this murder taking place ?.

As I have a Concealed Carry Weapon Permit, and I usually tote this:





I would have done my best to render the Perpetrators Combat In-effective and try to stop the evil bastards from hacking the Soldier to Death.

Now let's turn it around......Exactly what would you have done?

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Old 9th Oct 2013, 17:52
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It always makes me smile to think it was 3 unarmed women who confronted
those killers on the street until the Armed Police turned up.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 18:27
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Not a single aspect of this terrible episode makes me smile.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:09
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SASless asked KnC:

Now let's turn it around......Exactly what would you have done?


And we still have no answer.

Thus, rgbrock1 will pose an answer to the question.

"Kumbaya my lord, kumbaya. Oh my lord, kumbaya. Someone's laughing my lord, kumbaya, someone's laughing my lord...."

That's how we deal with Islamic terrorists SASless. What the hell else did you think, huh?
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:23
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As I have a Concealed Carry Weapon Permit,
which has, in London, about as much worth as a losing lottery ticket from two months ago, you would have introduced your pretty firearm illegally into the country, and had you used it, you would have found yourself in deep trouble for premeditated murder without a self defense argument since you were not the target.

So if you respected the laws of where you were, what would you have done?

Or do you have no regard for the laws of where you happen to be?
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:23
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Difficult to fight back, as a military trained person, when you have no weapon(s) to do so, eh?

Improvise, Mr Rock. You've been around long enough to have seen how effective some of those things can be.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:37
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Re "Improvise, Mr Rock."

I think RGB has "lost" it.

Sad to see.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:47
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Nope, rgb hasn't lost it. And, yes, one can certainly improvise.
Off the top of my head I can think of 10 different ways the scum bags in London could have been taken out, sans any firepower.

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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:48
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With the levels of technology those boys have access to, I'm not surprised, Mr Nitro. Some of us are still in the stone age when it comes to Gucci kit.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 19:52
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"Gucci kit."
Aaahhh yes, the Multi tool soldier who carries everything

Agree, some good stuff around but you still need to be able to
improvise when all the nice kit isn't available.


RGB
"could have been taken out, sans any firepower."

Starting with using a car of which plenty were available.
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 20:27
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Starting with using a car of which plenty were available.
Wasn't that the weapon used initially by the assailants to strike down Drummer Rigby?
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Old 9th Oct 2013, 20:34
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So if you respected the laws of where you were, what would you have done?

Or do you have no regard for the laws of where you happen to be?
I believe that I can answer for most of us, we respect the laws of any country we visit, may not agree with some of them, but we respect and obey the laws of other countries when we visit them.

I know I do in all the countries I have visited, which is very numerous. Even when I was with the Marshal Service, unless specifically authorized by the government of the country we where in, we did not carry guns in countries that did not allow such, even Canada.
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Yes, I think so.
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Old 10th Oct 2013, 04:43
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" As I have a Concealed Carry Weapon Permit, and I usually tote this "

I seem to recall you saying you intend to visit the UK next year. If you do, feel free to produce this piece of paper, along with your concealed weapon, when you are having an interesting and detailed conversation with any of the Police forces whose areas you may be visiting.

Just for you SASless.......it's the, ahem lyrics you understand....



rgb....Sir ! I was consuming my dinner sir !....spinach and mushroom pie with beans sir !..and then watching C4 News..sir !.hence the delay in replying.

One apologises profusely for this lapse in decorum of course.

What would I have done ?....probably the same as everybody else, the ladies excepted. Irrespective of the context, it is impossible to predict how any of us would / will react when faced with circumstances that are life threatening.

However, there is a well established psychological aspect regarding the presence of a woman in diffusing male aggression which is what transpired.

Although I did once find myself standing between two gentlemen in Belfast, on my left the green faction, on my right, the orange, both holding Stanley knives...this may give you a clue that both business and social conversation had ceased at this point, the conversations between the two being "somewhat polarised".......and thus, being a devout coward and a lentil eater, one diffused the situation by taking the proverbial out of both of them.....and myself....starting with myself and ending with myself.

Normal conversation then resumed.

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Old 10th Oct 2013, 11:39
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Sir ! I was consuming my dinner sir !....spinach and mushroom pie with beans sir !..
Ah. This may explain the lack of red-bloodedness.
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Old 10th Oct 2013, 11:44
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Ah. This may explain the lack of red-bloodedness.
And the whiff of Methane.
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Old 10th Oct 2013, 11:52
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And the whiff of Methane.

Well, I did say improvise....
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Old 10th Oct 2013, 12:24
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The John Wayne syndrome seems to be rearing its ugly head again!
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